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Post by RocketMan on Dec 28, 2010 21:36:22 GMT -5
maybe this freaks everybody out, but when we talk about beady eye, we talk about a band on a very low level. compared to other new bands or bands which are already there, beady eye is quite shite.
i don't mind btl. i wouldn't pay attention to this song, if it weren't from beady eye. same with flw. it's certainly better than btl, but its still not good. i can't understand the enthusiasm. both songs are quite average, if not even worse than average.
i don't want to provoke but you have to accept the fact, that these songs are not as good as you think. if you think so, you haven't got any idea of music.
maybe the album as a whole thing is great, i can't tell. but from what i've heard, i doubt it
you should put the beady eye glasses down, and look more objective on the whole beady eye project. then we're talking
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Post by dwagon41 on Dec 28, 2010 21:41:25 GMT -5
What would you consider a recent great song then?
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Post by Silence Dogood on Dec 28, 2010 21:45:06 GMT -5
troll alert laters y'all...
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2010 21:51:36 GMT -5
They're a low-level band that's very big in my personal world though. I might not listen if they weren't who they are...but they are who they are. They are 3/4 of my favorite band.
I think that you have a point about the released material though. Strictly from my limited opinion I thought that BTL was about a 5/10 and FLW a 6/10.
I probably do, and will, give them the additional leniency because of who they are. I am aware...and I am not going to stop it. Considering they are a band that has never played a gig and not had a proper release they are doing pretty well for public exposure though...to be fair...
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 28, 2010 21:52:31 GMT -5
it wasn't quite a good year in that case. the sufjan stevens album, arcade fire, tame impala, gaslight anthem were all great and far ahead of beady eye. which really means nothing. they aren't important for the music world. and i think most of the oasis fans, which are listen to this stuff, are won't get into it either. because the songs are just bad. they haven't got any relevance
don't get me wrong, it would have been great if they stand out with brilliant songs. but if they had any, they wouldn't put out this average shit
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2010 22:00:09 GMT -5
it wasn't quite a good year in that case. the sufjan stevens album, arcade fire, tame impala, gaslight anthem were all great and far ahead of beady eye. which really means nothing. they aren't important for the music world. and i think most of the oasis fans, which are listen to this stuff, are won't get into it either. because the songs are just bad. they haven't got any relevance don't get me wrong, it would have been great if they stand out with brilliant songs. but if they had any, they wouldn't put out this average shit Again they haven't put out a proper single. Why start ragging on them already? Wait til March after the album is out and they are playing gigs...then have at it.
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Post by ETrilk on Dec 28, 2010 22:27:35 GMT -5
Beady Eye are gonna be massive!
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2010 22:29:20 GMT -5
Beady Eye are gonna be massive! Knock on wood
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 28, 2010 22:32:17 GMT -5
It's very difficult to accept your opinion that they are a new band. Are they, by definition, a new band? Sure, a few member shifts, and a new name with potentially an altered sound. But realistically, they are Oasis minus Noel.
Was Noel the brains? Of course. But there's some very talented musicians in the remnants. It's not exactly like they're a bunch of kids with no experience who we have to give a chance to. We know they are capable of some good stuff, even though it may not reach the heights or the consistent quality of Noel's work with Oasis.
And of course we're following them cos of the Gallagher brand. But why not? As I have already stated, the members have already proven their worth in past projects; they already deserve our attention, and thus don't - nor shouldn't - have to work as hard as the actual, conventional new bands.
BTL wouldn't grab my attention, either. But SOTS cover has Oasis written all over it, and FLW is rocking, too - and the guitar solo has a few glimmers of early Oasis in it (see RNRS for a similar solo vibe).
With the same Liam attitude and sneering as Oasis; with the same members subtract one as the modern day Oasis, why shouldn't we give them a chance and our attention? They're the only band in the world capable, due to all the reasons I have mentioned, of carrying the Oasis sound and ideals. No one will swagger nor sneer as well as Liam, and for that no other band deserves to try and replace the lads we have grown to be mad fer.
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Post by hanofjoh99 on Dec 28, 2010 22:56:22 GMT -5
Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bwilder on Dec 28, 2010 22:57:31 GMT -5
Let's be honest... Noel's songwriting is the goose that lay the golden egg...
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Post by caats19 on Dec 28, 2010 23:59:43 GMT -5
man that is a laazy screen name
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Post by oneeye on Dec 29, 2010 2:20:58 GMT -5
how can you accuse people of not knowing their music.
I've been into all kinds of music and can EASILY tell that the album is going to be good, it's not an album of anthems it's an album of very good music and that's what people will enjoy.
If anything YOU need to open YOUR ears!
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Post by LlAM on Dec 29, 2010 4:45:13 GMT -5
Beady Eyes album tracks are better than most bands singles. That's all I can say.
And telling people they have no clue about music because the like Four Letter Word is the most ignorant remark on this board over.
Art is a subjective, individual opinion - thank God for that.
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Post by putthisin ® on Dec 29, 2010 6:54:22 GMT -5
If BTL and FLW were great or amazing they wouldn't give them away. They would make singles out of them.
The quality of the songs is raising. I can only expect the next released song, which is The Roller, to be better than the previous 2. And that's a smart move from them, starting low and then build up until the album release. Lowering our expectations and then blow our heads off. I hope so at least.
I think this sums up what they are doing: BTL<FLW<The Roller<.........
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 29, 2010 7:45:19 GMT -5
hopefully, my expectations are certainly very low. i hope i'm wrong with what i said, but i can't see it at the moment.
btl is beady eye, flw is a poor rehash from what oasis have done. you can celebrate their new songs, but don't give them to high ratings.just remember which songs are in the 4/5 , 5/5 category. none of them are even close to it. just be realistic. in february we're all a bit smarter
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Dec 29, 2010 9:17:28 GMT -5
Music is all about personal experiences "haha". So yes, we can give the songs high ratings. The ratings reflects our opinions. I don't think there is a global rating system in music... On this forum we like Oasis, and the Oasis-sound. Of course we are going to like songs if they sounds like Oasis..I think 4LW is a great song. I would give it 4/5. For me it could easily have been an Oasis song, a good one. But that's me. I like that "bring it on down", "headshrinker" sound. I know that it won't be praised all over the world and get that much attention etc. If that's what's in the 5/5 category for you.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Dec 29, 2010 9:39:14 GMT -5
if four letter word is 4/5........then what about IN MY LIFE...THE MASTERPLAN...CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA...STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER...LIVE FOREVER....A DAY IN THE LIFE......10/5? ...FUCKING HELL......
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Post by jeffrey on Dec 29, 2010 10:04:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, the songs we've heard are nothing more than late Oasis b-sides. The longer Oasis stayed around, the worse the b-sides got. I've seen people comparing FLW to Bring It On Down; Jesus-fucking-Christ, if anyone thinks it's on par with that, you've lost your mind.
I know music is subjective and people say there can't be facts, only opinions when rating it. However, I can say in fact, that Nickelback, Hinder, Three Doors Down are utter shit! Furthermore, I will say that the two songs we've heard so far are nothing more than filler. FLW may be rocking live, but there isn't much substance to the song. It's nothing worth getting excited about...
People always say, "Oh man, this is as good as..." whenever a new album comes out. I remember people comparing DBTT and DOYS with DM and MG. Nobody is doing that now.
Just take the album and listen to it, but stop saying that it's going to blow people's minds... Because it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2010 10:09:02 GMT -5
In fairness a point scale out of 5 means that each point is 20%. FLW could be an 80% if you ask me, while The Masterplan or In My Life are more in the 98% range. It's a fair rating.
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Post by discworld on Dec 29, 2010 10:24:43 GMT -5
ok. my rate out of 5 :
BTL -5 FLW -4
the roller ? Waiting to hear it in full
the masterplan +5
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Dec 29, 2010 10:36:50 GMT -5
For the last time...you can't compare music and say one song is better than another. FLW is good. I like most Oasis songs more, but that doesn't mean they're better. They both have their individual style. If BDI did poor imitations of Oasis songs you could say they're worse - you can compare WTSMG to BHN - but it is even hard sometimes to compare two Oasis songs, and nearly impossible to compare BDI to Oasis. As long as I enjoy listening to BDI, it is good enough for me.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 29, 2010 11:29:51 GMT -5
^ Yes we can and we will. Haven't you ever met music fans before? We compare, we make lists, we debate things related to music. No one's going to stop, so get used to it. Sorry if that came off as harsh, but it's the truth.
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Post by RocketMan on Dec 29, 2010 11:34:08 GMT -5
dear god, you can compare whatever you want. but you can't compare bring it on down with four letter word. it's just not in one league
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Post by LlAM on Dec 29, 2010 11:45:24 GMT -5
dear god, you can compare whatever you want. but you can't compare bring it on down with four letter word. it's just not in one league Says who? The big book of wrongs and rights? You're entitled to your opinion but stop forcing it down our throats like its the gospel truth.
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