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Post by NYR on Jan 15, 2011 23:35:28 GMT -5
bobby darin was the fucking man. three words: mack the knife.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jan 15, 2011 23:48:25 GMT -5
That's a damn good version of Mack The Knife... but an influence on Beady Eye? Nah.
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Post by gdforever on Jan 15, 2011 23:50:51 GMT -5
I haven't read this entire thread nor do i plan to, but can everyone do me a favor . . . STOP CALLING EVERY NEW TRACK THE BEST TRACK EVER!! This track is intriguing, but not classic, and not worthy of being an album track. I actually like it, but there is a reason it is a b-side, it's not that great overall. Let's all get over the initial high of a new, and very different tune, and see it for what it is . . .A tune that they didn't see as album worthy! It's not gonna happen...this board loves it's hyperbole. |
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Post by acquiesceyeah on Jan 16, 2011 0:02:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised you cried. I like the song, I also thought The Roller was quite good. I mean, it's just a shame both are blatant rip-offs. Have you heard Bobby Darin's "Jive"? The WOMW rip is a bad as The Roller's IK rip. Maybe worse. Who in the blue hell is Bobby Darin?!! <Googles song> HA! I mean, I have it down as Pink Floyd's "San Tropez"... perhaps someone nobody's ever heard of influenced them, too! What? |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 0:13:31 GMT -5
I'm surprised you cried. I like the song, I also thought The Roller was quite good. I mean, it's just a shame both are blatant rip-offs. Have you heard Bobby Darin's "Jive"? The WOMW rip is a bad as The Roller's IK rip. Maybe worse. Who in the blue hell is Bobby Darin?!! <Googles song> HA! I mean, I have it down as Pink Floyd's "San Tropez"... perhaps someone nobody's ever heard of influenced them, too! Wait...you don't know who Bobby Darin is? Here is a the Darin song so other don't have to look for it |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jan 16, 2011 0:16:44 GMT -5
I haven't read this entire thread nor do i plan to, but can everyone do me a favor . . . STOP CALLING EVERY NEW TRACK THE BEST TRACK EVER!! This track is intriguing, but not classic, and not worthy of being an album track. I actually like it, but there is a reason it is a b-side, it's not that great overall. Let's all get over the initial high of a new, and very different tune, and see it for what it is . . .A tune that they didn't see as album worthy! People here wait years for another record so it's not hard to see that people will be excited whenever there is a new release. And Beady Eye debuted with BTL so no wonder people are relieved and surprised song after song. Why can't people let others enjoy for just a few days?  |
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jan 16, 2011 0:17:09 GMT -5
Never heard of him at all, in honestly.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jan 16, 2011 0:18:04 GMT -5
I haven't read this entire thread nor do i plan to, but can everyone do me a favor . . . STOP CALLING EVERY NEW TRACK THE BEST TRACK EVER!! This track is intriguing, but not classic, and not worthy of being an album track. I actually like it, but there is a reason it is a b-side, it's not that great overall. Let's all get over the initial high of a new, and very different tune, and see it for what it is . . .A tune that they didn't see as album worthy! People here wait years for another record so it's not hard to see that people will be excited whenever there is a new release. And Beady Eye debuted with BTL so no wonder people are relieved and surprised song after song. Why can't people let others enjoy for just a few days? +1 |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 0:18:54 GMT -5
Never heard of him at all, in honestly. He's from the Sinatra-Sammy Davis Jr. era of preformers...and not an overly obscure one @ that. |
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jan 16, 2011 0:22:23 GMT -5
Never heard of him at all, in honestly. He's from the Sinatra-Sammy Davis Jr. era of preformers...and not an overly obscure one @ that. Ah, OK. But he's obscure enough for me to have never heard of him in my 32 years on this planet! Perhaps it's an English thing - I'm English and have never heard his name mentioned. I'm sure my brothers at home can comment on that when they wake up in a few hours. Either way - I hardly think his song "Jive" had any influence on WOMR! |
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Post by acquiesceyeah on Jan 16, 2011 0:55:48 GMT -5
He's from the Sinatra-Sammy Davis Jr. era of preformers...and not an overly obscure one @ that. Ah, OK. But he's obscure enough for me to have never heard of him in my 32 years on this planet! Perhaps it's an English thing - I'm English and have never heard his name mentioned. I'm sure my brothers at home can comment on that when they wake up in a few hours. Either way - I hardly think his song "Jive" had any influence on WOMR! I'm English and ten years younger than you and know Bobby Darin, not that that matters or means much, just saying - it's not an English thing. Anyway, if you think Jive hasn't had an influence on it, you have to be deluded. I'd say it's more blatant than Instant Karma's influence on The Roller. It does have a slight Kinks vibe to it, but not as much as peope say I reckon. Anyway, every tune so far has been extremely derivative. Nothing original yet from Beady Eye. Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying the songs, just saying. I even like the new B-Side, but don't fool yourself in thinking it's not a rip. |
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jan 16, 2011 1:06:54 GMT -5
Wow - you're chucking the attitude around tonight! Good for you that you know Bobby Darin. As I said, I haven't - and I'll bet the kitchen sink the more likely steal is "San Tropez" by the Floyd.
I don't quite know why you're posting on every thread about members of Oasis ripping artists off - we were discussing that back in 1995 when you were a mere six year old! Fooling myself? Get real.
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Post by psufan43 on Jan 16, 2011 3:12:03 GMT -5
hmmmmm, just herd one listen, and i dont really know if i like it or not tbh as crazy as that sounds. i cant remeber the last time i had tune that i honestly didnt know how i felt abt. maybe im so caught off how different it sounds.
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 3:21:05 GMT -5
it's a tune  |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 16, 2011 3:29:02 GMT -5
it's a tune Profound words, my friend! |
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Post by mytwocents on Jan 16, 2011 3:32:01 GMT -5
It's a cute song, I will say "cute" and then forget it in a week, probably.
Sounds really like one of the "old little tune" McCartney did, nothing original...I'm stunned it's getting such a strong positive reaction!
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Post by andymorris on Jan 16, 2011 3:36:58 GMT -5
The "cute little macca tunes" are classics.
This song is a nice surprise, and should probably have been on the album. But like Oasis, i guess Beady Eye is giving its LP the "big sound, big tunes" treatment, leaving the rest on flipsides.
And it's clearly an Andy's song.
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 16, 2011 3:40:06 GMT -5
it's a tune Profound words, my friend!  |
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Post by jesper on Jan 16, 2011 3:56:23 GMT -5
Nice song. Reminds me of Little Miss Queen of Darkness, by The Kinks
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Post by dwagon41 on Jan 16, 2011 4:17:40 GMT -5
I've already gotten acquiesceyeah's DGSS album review written for him! Just simply cut and paste and you can save yourself a little bit of typing!
1. Four Letter Word - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
2. Millionaire - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
3. The Roller - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
4. Beatles and Stones - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
5. Wind Up Dream - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
6. Bring the Light - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
7. For Anyone - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
8. Kill for a Dream - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
9. Standing on the Edge of the Noise - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
10. Wigwam - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
11. Three Ring Circus - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
12. The Beat Goes On - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
13. The Morning Son - IT'S A RIP-OFF!
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Post by Instant Karma on Jan 16, 2011 4:43:26 GMT -5
Ah, OK. But he's obscure enough for me to have never heard of him in my 32 years on this planet! Perhaps it's an English thing - I'm English and have never heard his name mentioned. I'm sure my brothers at home can comment on that when they wake up in a few hours. Either way - I hardly think his song "Jive" had any influence on WOMR! I'm English and ten years younger than you and know Bobby Darin, not that that matters or means much, just saying - it's not an English thing. Anyway, if you think Jive hasn't had an influence on it, you have to be deluded. I'd say it's more blatant than Instant Karma's influence on The Roller. It does have a slight Kinks vibe to it, but not as much as peope say I reckon. Anyway, every tune so far has been extremely derivative. Nothing original yet from Beady Eye. Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying the songs, just saying. I even like the new B-Side, but don't fool yourself in thinking it's not a rip. Nonsense. If you can’t listen to anything without getting hung up on where it’s influences have came from, If you can only get off on stuff that’s ‘original’ (nothing really is) then Rock and Roll as a genre, isn’t for you. Try ‘Dub Step’ and see how you get on with that. Every single piece of music is influenced from what’s gone before it, so a miserable smart arse can pick holes in anything. A lot of us don’t hear our favourite kind of music in the media these days, so to have bands like Beady Eye stepping up and promoting it is a complete pleasure. There are no covers on the album and to say they are rip offs is like writing the Rolling Stones off for their Muddy Waters/blues influences and Bobby Darrin (Who the fuck is he! for whatever his influences were) when what they did, is bring their influences to others through their own music and let people check out the other bands as well because they don’t make any bones about what’s inspired them – even Lennon gave a nod to all the classic rock and rollers - so everyone’s a winner. No one is trying to get one over on anyone and you don’t need to start pointing everything out like you’re some kind of musical mastermind and we're the idiots that have been fooled in to enjoying what we enjoy for so long. The fact that Liam has made no bones about where the influences of this album will be from, right from the start – gave us all a good idea that we’d be getting classic, old school Rock and Roll and we would be disappointed if he then went on to do an album of electro folk jazz. The songs released so far are more than I was expecting and I’m loving it. I might be able to get something decent on the radio and in the pubs for a change. It’s original to the point that there’s not a lot of modern bands giving a nod to that right now and some of us need our rock and roll. I mean, it’s an album that’s directly influenced by the likes of The Beatles and Stones – what on earth is wrong with that! If their influences stop anyones enjoyment and if anyone doesn't get what Liam and Oasis are all about by now, then this album isn't for them. |
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Post by JamesDalt on Jan 16, 2011 4:55:06 GMT -5
^^^ what u said, getting very frustrated with people trawling the archives try to pick 'what song it sounds like'. Who gives a shit.
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Post by acquiesceyeah on Jan 16, 2011 7:29:31 GMT -5
I'm English and ten years younger than you and know Bobby Darin, not that that matters or means much, just saying - it's not an English thing. Anyway, if you think Jive hasn't had an influence on it, you have to be deluded. I'd say it's more blatant than Instant Karma's influence on The Roller. It does have a slight Kinks vibe to it, but not as much as peope say I reckon. Anyway, every tune so far has been extremely derivative. Nothing original yet from Beady Eye. Don't get me wrong, I'm still enjoying the songs, just saying. I even like the new B-Side, but don't fool yourself in thinking it's not a rip. Nonsense. If you can’t listen to anything without getting hung up on where it’s influences have came from, If you can only get off on stuff that’s ‘original’ (nothing really is) then Rock and Roll as a genre, isn’t for you. Try ‘Dub Step’ and see how you get on with that. Every single piece of music is influenced from what’s gone before it, so a miserable smart arse can pick holes in anything. A lot of us don’t hear our favourite kind of music in the media these days, so to have bands like Beady Eye stepping up and promoting it is a complete pleasure. There are no covers on the album and to say they are rip offs is like writing the Rolling Stones off for their Muddy Waters/blues influences and Bobby Darrin (Who the fuck is he! for whatever his influences were) when what they did, is bring their influences to others through their own music and let people check out the other bands as well because they don’t make any bones about what’s inspired them – even Lennon gave a nod to all the classic rock and rollers - so everyone’s a winner. No one is trying to get one over on anyone and you don’t need to start pointing everything out like you’re some kind of musical mastermind and we're the idiots that have been fooled in to enjoying what we enjoy for so long. The fact that Liam has made no bones about where the influences of this album will be from, right from the start – gave us all a good idea that we’d be getting classic, old school Rock and Roll and we would be disappointed if he then went on to do an album of electro folk jazz. The songs released so far are more than I was expecting and I’m loving it. I might be able to get something decent on the radio and in the pubs for a change. It’s original to the point that there’s not a lot of modern bands giving a nod to that right now and some of us need our rock and roll. I mean, it’s an album that’s directly influenced by the likes of The Beatles and Stones – what on earth is wrong with that! If their influences stop anyones enjoyment and if anyone doesn't get what Liam and Oasis are all about by now, then this album isn't for them. I think you're misunderstanding my view on this. I'm not hung up on it, I said I've enjoyed every song quite a bit. I'm just saying, The Roller and WOMR are past influenced/derivative, they're moving into the area of plaigarism. |
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Post by putthisin ® on Jan 16, 2011 8:22:25 GMT -5
Nonsense. If you can’t listen to anything without getting hung up on where it’s influences have came from, If you can only get off on stuff that’s ‘original’ (nothing really is) then Rock and Roll as a genre, isn’t for you. Try ‘Dub Step’ and see how you get on with that. Every single piece of music is influenced from what’s gone before it, so a miserable smart arse can pick holes in anything. A lot of us don’t hear our favourite kind of music in the media these days, so to have bands like Beady Eye stepping up and promoting it is a complete pleasure. There are no covers on the album and to say they are rip offs is like writing the Rolling Stones off for their Muddy Waters/blues influences and Bobby Darrin (Who the fuck is he! for whatever his influences were) when what they did, is bring their influences to others through their own music and let people check out the other bands as well because they don’t make any bones about what’s inspired them – even Lennon gave a nod to all the classic rock and rollers - so everyone’s a winner. No one is trying to get one over on anyone and you don’t need to start pointing everything out like you’re some kind of musical mastermind and we're the idiots that have been fooled in to enjoying what we enjoy for so long. The fact that Liam has made no bones about where the influences of this album will be from, right from the start – gave us all a good idea that we’d be getting classic, old school Rock and Roll and we would be disappointed if he then went on to do an album of electro folk jazz. The songs released so far are more than I was expecting and I’m loving it. I might be able to get something decent on the radio and in the pubs for a change. It’s original to the point that there’s not a lot of modern bands giving a nod to that right now and some of us need our rock and roll. I mean, it’s an album that’s directly influenced by the likes of The Beatles and Stones – what on earth is wrong with that! If their influences stop anyones enjoyment and if anyone doesn't get what Liam and Oasis are all about by now, then this album isn't for them. I think you're misunderstanding my view on this. I'm not hung up on it, I said I've enjoyed every song quite a bit. I'm just saying, The Roller and WOMR are past influenced/derivative, they're moving into the area of plaigarism. You should realise that, in the end, that's all that matters. |
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Post by Bellboy on Jan 16, 2011 8:23:58 GMT -5
Just listening to the tune again & reading this thread. Can't we just say influenced by Rock N Roll music? Which started in the 50's/60's.
I love this era of music & if BE do too then it get's my vote.
Better to rip off the likes of Bobby Darin or McCartney than the fooking Kieser cheifs or something!!
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