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Post by mkoasis on Dec 7, 2010 1:09:15 GMT -5
We didn't even have time to get into a proper "Guess the tracklisting" mode, and have special 1-post guest contributors telling us they met Gem or Andy and found out the name of a new song, only to be torn apart by us for not proving it.
It's too bad. I suppose we can still do that with Noel's.
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Post by jabba69 on Dec 7, 2010 5:30:01 GMT -5
Love the title. Love the album cover. Love the fact that that its 13 songs. Don't give a fuck that one is called Beatles and Stones (what the fuck's wrong with some of you lot?!) And love the fact that a month ago we knew nothing, and now its all starting to happen! I admit I was starting to lose faith - I thought we were never gonna hear any Beady Eye! I know that everyone loves this comment. But seriously...who the hell thought we were seriously never going to hear anything out of them! I mean come on! Overdramatic much? Frankly any reactions so the news we've gotten are going to be a bit reactionary and tongue in cheek. The BaS title is a bit funny you have to admit. The gall of it, I mean. There is nothing we can really say that has any meaning...since none of this information can really be analyzed without the music. Jeez..I didn't mean it literally! I just thought (before the website launch/video rumours, etc) that it was starting to look like it might be 2011 before we even heard any news. I'm just really buzzing that its all been kicking off recently, and I'm well looking forward to getting a single and album in the new year. The album cover looks really cheap and dirty - like some sort of old punk album, and thats why I like it. The title is just different, and totally not what I expected. Not some generic shit name that I was expecting to be honest. And to whoever said 'whats to love about having 13 songs?' - since oasis only ever seemed to do 10/11 songs max - I'm happy to be getting 13! They obviously had a lot of songs bubbling around after the break up, as well as writing more since, and I'm excited to hear them. Instead of just getting a handful maybe on an oasis album (2 years down the line). I'm just really looking forward to the new stuff, and can't really understand why so many whingers come on here and pick everything apart??
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Post by kenneth on Dec 7, 2010 9:22:23 GMT -5
Well said mate!!! Lot of hating going on in here. Liam gets really slaughtered for his Beatles references, Noel not so much. I'm just saying... When you find a Noel song named Beatles and Stones, then we'll talk. lol But yeah, I like the album cover. I don't love it. I don't mind the Beatles and Stones, as long as its good. If the song turns out to be shit, then the title will look like shit, and that can't really be denied. I like the they're 13 songs, I dont see how one can just absolutely love it? Anyone can compare and say "well no one complains when Noel does it" I think people would be complaining if Noel did make a song called Beatles and Stones. Its starting to become a tiring and just lazy arguement. Its almost as bad the camp Liam, camp Noel thing. Grow up a bit. Liam and Noel have always used Beatles references. Noel of course doing Wonderwall, but I can't find many Noel song called Beatles and Stone or Paul McCartney. Its a stupid song title for now. The song title will become good, if the song is good. Same thing with the album cover and with everything else. All that matters are the strength of the songs. If the songs are great then the people who hate the album cover and the song titles ect, will switch and learn to love it, but if the songs are shit or not up to par then the same can be said about anyone who just loves it right now. Its the output that matters. Everything else is secondary. Both you and I know, along with everyone else on this forum, that, while Noel doesn't have had a song that's named after any if his favorite bands, he's got loads of Beatles references in his songs. I don't see why that's any less reason for critisising from fans here, than Liam naming a song after some of his fave bands? Noel being the better songwriter, and he gets away with it more than Liam. It's that easy. Let's see when he releases the album details for his album, and see how much flack he gets for it shall we? I hate arguing about this stuff, because it makes me come of as a Noel hater, which I'm really not. I love both the Gallaghers equally. But I'm just stating the obvious here, Liam and Beady Eye gets a really hard time on this forum. People are really over them for the littlest things like a fucking album cover. I mean, there's a lot worse album covers out there. Some of them even being Oasis! I'm probably gonna get shot down over this post, but that's alright. Anyways, let's all wait to prejudge the album untill we have heard all the songs shall we.
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Post by Marcos on Dec 7, 2010 9:58:36 GMT -5
Gotta agree with Kenneth there. People are really giving Liam and Beady Eye a hard time. When Noel rips off someone everybody goes like: "oooh he's paying tribute to that artist!" and bla bla bla. I really admire Liam for doing what he wants not giving a fuck about what everyone else think. But still, we don't even know yet if the song is his lol.
I also like them putting 13 songs in the album but at the same time it worries me a bit. Maybe there's 2 or 3 songs of 1 or 2 minutes?
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Post by psj3809 on Dec 7, 2010 10:00:03 GMT -5
Love the title. Love the album cover. Love the fact that that its 13 songs. Don't give a fuck that one is called Beatles and Stones (what the fuck's wrong with some of you lot?!) And love the fact that a month ago we knew nothing, and now its all starting to happen! I admit I was starting to lose faith - I thought we were never gonna hear any Beady Eye! Yep agree with that, when things went very quiet in Sept/Oct i think it was, i thought at one stage things might be cancelled or postponed for a while. Yeah i dont like the cover at all, i'm not bothered by the names of the tracks. If theres a lot of 'average' songs (Like Hey Now, Soldier On kinda stuff) i'll be happy. It'll be like an album of b sides and 13 new songs to listen to i hope will be alright. Of course i would love a cracking album which the critics love but at the end of the day i'm enjoying the hype, looking forward to that moment you have when you hear a new Oasis (Yeah yeah i know its not Oasis) album for the first time. Just hope 60 minutes later i'm not thinking 'what a pile of w*nk'. Just hope its half decent. Reckon it'll leak in jan ?
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Post by spaneli on Dec 7, 2010 12:58:03 GMT -5
Gotta agree with Kenneth there. People are really giving Liam and Beady Eye a hard time. When Noel rips off someone everybody goes like: "oooh he's paying tribute to that artist!" and bla bla bla. I really admire Liam for doing what he wants not giving a fuck about what everyone else think. But still, we don't even know yet if the song is his lol. I also like them putting 13 songs in the album but at the same time it worries me a bit. Maybe there's 2 or 3 songs of 1 or 2 minutes? Yes Noel makes Beatles references, but no one was really complaining when Liam ripped off I'm Outta Time from Lennon. This is one of the first instances where I've seen fans question Liam putting Beatles references in there. I dont think this is some on going trend. That everytime Liam comes out with something whether with Oasis/BDI people try to find Beatles references and bash him. How many threads can you find where people point out where Noel ripped off and crtiisize. A LOT. Its not a Noel thing and it not a Liam thing. Its just stupid to name a song Beatles and Stones and it would be stupid if Noel did it. And most people on this forum would be critisizing Noel if he did that. Like I said this "everytime" thing with Liam. What "everytime?". He's come out with how many songs in his career? This isnt a trend. Now I will say that some on this forum have been hard on Liam & BDI, but calling a song Beatles and Stones and saying its a stupid song title is a valid arguement and has nothing to do whether its called that by Liam or Noel.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:13:21 GMT -5
Look, here's the thing with the Beatles and Stones thing. It's a horrid title, as anyone can see. Yes, Noel has sprinkled (liberally) Beatles references in his songs over the years. The difference is Liam admits himself that he has difficulty with lyrics. If we're starting out with a title like Beatles and Stones, it's not that big a leap to assume the chorus will be something like this:
"Come on, play the Beatles and stones You hear me talking on the telephone I got nothing on my mind 'cept singing and making it shine"
Now I put no thought into that and literally just typed the first words that came into my mind. It's a bit sad that Liam could (some might argue he already has) turn in lyrics on par or (hopefully not) worse than those.
That's why it's troubling.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 7, 2010 15:57:38 GMT -5
When you find a Noel song named Beatles and Stones, then we'll talk. lol But yeah, I like the album cover. I don't love it. I don't mind the Beatles and Stones, as long as its good. If the song turns out to be shit, then the title will look like shit, and that can't really be denied. I like the they're 13 songs, I dont see how one can just absolutely love it? Anyone can compare and say "well no one complains when Noel does it" I think people would be complaining if Noel did make a song called Beatles and Stones. Its starting to become a tiring and just lazy arguement. Its almost as bad the camp Liam, camp Noel thing. Grow up a bit. Liam and Noel have always used Beatles references. Noel of course doing Wonderwall, but I can't find many Noel song called Beatles and Stone or Paul McCartney. Its a stupid song title for now. The song title will become good, if the song is good. Same thing with the album cover and with everything else. All that matters are the strength of the songs. If the songs are great then the people who hate the album cover and the song titles ect, will switch and learn to love it, but if the songs are shit or not up to par then the same can be said about anyone who just loves it right now. Its the output that matters. Everything else is secondary. Both you and I know, along with everyone else on this forum, that, while Noel doesn't have had a song that's named after any if his favorite bands, he's got loads of Beatles references in his songs. I don't see why that's any less reason for critisising from fans here, than Liam naming a song after some of his fave bands? Noel being the better songwriter, and he gets away with it more than Liam. It's that easy. Let's see when he releases the album details for his album, and see how much flack he gets for it shall we? I hate arguing about this stuff, because it makes me come of as a Noel hater, which I'm really not. I love both the Gallaghers equally. But I'm just stating the obvious here, Liam and Beady Eye gets a really hard time on this forum. People are really over them for the littlest things like a fucking album cover. I mean, there's a lot worse album covers out there. Some of them even being Oasis! I'm probably gonna get shot down over this post, but that's alright. Anyways, let's all wait to prejudge the album untill we have heard all the songs shall we. We've got to stop this myth that the forum never criticizes Noel. I don't know what universe you live in....but we ultimately blame Noel for every bad decision Oasis has ever made. No, we haven't criticised him lately...mostly because he hasn't been doing anything. Although I do remember some people bitching about the fact that he is going of TalkSport radio every week. Which is basically the only think he's been doing publicly. Naming a tune BaS is not the same as lifting a lyrics or a rift as homage your influences. It's a lot more blatant than most of what Noel has done. Also BOTH GALLAGHERS get a hard time on this forum. It's not a Liam/BDI thing. When the forum settles down from BDI and Noel starts ramping up for his album what do you want to bet about there being a whole bunch of criticism of that as well. And people will come out upest that BDI got away with 'X' and Noel is being crucified for the same thing, etc. Neither of these projects are going to flawless. And so far they have been pretty minor flaws TBF. BTL, for all the crap that was posted about it, I think the general consensus is that it's just an alright song (crap/forgettable lyrics and a bit long but alright). The album artwork doesn't really matter that much in the long run. Once we have music it probably won't be mentioned again for a long time. The song and album titles will eventually just become themselves once we hear the music. If BaS is a good song we won't mind it so much, if it's a bad song we'll just accept that it's a bad title for a bad tune. But noone is going to say, "I won't like the song even though it sounds good because the title is crap." The only people that really come off smelling of roses most of the time on this forum to my mind are Andy and Gem. Anything that happened in Oasis was blamed on Noel ultimately. Anything that goes on with BDI we are ultimately going to connect to Liam. It's their burden as the frontmen...
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Post by spaneli on Dec 7, 2010 16:11:12 GMT -5
K+ for GDForever. I will admit though that some have blamed Liam for a lot of what was wrong with Oasis, but recentetly there have been a lot more who have hoisted the blame all upon Noel for what happened with Oasis. But yeah, this myth of its a Liam thing, its a Noel thing is just lazy.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 7, 2010 16:35:58 GMT -5
K+ for GDForever. I will admit though that some have blamed Liam for a lot of what was wrong with Oasis, but recentetly there have been a lot more who have hoisted the blame all upon Noel for what happened with Oasis. But yeah, this myth of its a Liam thing, its a Noel thing is just lazy. I don't know the last time I've heard Liam solely blamed for anything Oasis related other than inconsistency live...although even then I have heard the excuse that Liam sounded so bad was that the voice was too low in the mix and forced him to shout so therefore that was Noel's fault for soundcheckig the guitars too high. I think about DOYS. Liam has 2 subpar tracks on that album and Andy and Gem each had one. @ the end of the day the most common refrain is that Noel made a mistake with the tracklisting or rushed the album. But think back as far as STOSOG. LJ was bad, as were ICSAL and PYMWYMI. We don't blame Liam that much for writing a crap song and it being on the album although without a doubt he probably pushed quite hard for it to be included. We mostly blame Noel for letting it on the album instead of LAMB. But Noel alone gets the blame for ICSAL and PYMWYMI.
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Post by Swarfiga on Dec 7, 2010 17:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by The Morning Son on Dec 7, 2010 17:35:30 GMT -5
Also it says 'Sons Of The Stage' is 2.28, which is a couple of minutes short! Probably not true.
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Post by Bellboy on Dec 7, 2010 17:54:42 GMT -5
So is that some sort of special edition? I'm not saying that. All I'm saying is that they went with a news paper vibe. I think it was a very astute observation by Bellboy, actually. Astute eh.. That's true!..Thanks I guess! To be clear it is a real picture & they have gone for an old style news paper with bizarre stories with the cover. Kinda like Private Eye, only Beady Eye ;-)
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Post by tadas on Dec 7, 2010 20:14:53 GMT -5
Beatles and stones....mmm... It doesnt say its about THE BEATLES AND THE ROLLING STONES. Maybe its about VW BEETLE and throwing stones at it cause Liam hates it... maybe you all just stop complaining. I feel sorry for many of you sad people........
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Post by gdforever on Dec 7, 2010 20:36:33 GMT -5
Beatles and stones....mmm... It doesnt say its about THE BEATLES AND THE ROLLING STONES. Maybe its about VW BEETLE and throwing stones at it cause Liam hates it... maybe you all just stop complaining. I feel sorry for many of you sad people........ Except that its Beatles...not Beetles
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Post by t99 on Dec 7, 2010 23:04:34 GMT -5
Kill for a dream is Andy's song. Old tune ten years ago.
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Post by supersonic8587 on Dec 7, 2010 23:42:42 GMT -5
Kill for a dream is Andy's song. Old tune ten years ago. Where did you see this?
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Post by t99 on Dec 8, 2010 0:38:30 GMT -5
img687.imageshack.us/f/doys3.jpg/-About the process of the tune making. By what way do you make the tune? Andy:The tune was written sitting in old times. Today is decided to schedule something on the day when the tune is written. Then, the tune to stir one's emotions was not able to be written though the tune was able to be written. Therefore, it changed it little by little. It became accustomed to it because it was extent in which one every several years was written after it had joined the oasis. So much a lot of tunes need not be written recently. Therefore, it will wait. It is waited that the idea boils rather than writing. This is the highest tune though the tune of 'Kill for A Dream' was written when it joins the band for the first time eight years or nine years ago. After that, it doesn't hurry up oppositely, and it is waited that something springs up.
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Post by t99 on Dec 8, 2010 0:51:55 GMT -5
It is an old Japanese article. It has already been deleted.
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Post by talktonight228 on Dec 8, 2010 4:42:41 GMT -5
YEAHH Beady Eye album is being released on my bday! ok now that I got that out of my system I love all the titles they all sound interesting. Standing on the Edge of the Noise sounded like a tune from the moment I saw it on that Oasis DOYS concert. First look at the album cover I wasn't a fan, its not bad tho. The title is fine but as someone said it does sound more like the second Beady Eye album.
Can't wait for more news and the album on the 28th. Screw sleeping in on my birthday I'm running to HMV
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Post by The Morning Son on Dec 8, 2010 13:25:50 GMT -5
I went and ordered it from play.com. £8.99 for the album and bonus DVD was a snatch and hopefully it will guarantee it here on the release date......probably won't though.
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Post by Northern Monkey on Dec 9, 2010 6:12:00 GMT -5
I don't think I'm going to bother pre-ordering unless there ends up being some exclusive box set released, which doesn' look likely.
I'd rather go into town on the day it's released and get in person, because I've pre-ordered in the past and had to wait about for the disc to arrive.
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Post by ETrilk on Dec 9, 2010 11:57:45 GMT -5
Agreed. Unless there is an exclusive box or something extra that comes with pre-ordering I'm certainly going to be skipping out on work to go and get it in person on the day it comes out. I turn 30 the Saturday after it comes out and I'm gonna be listening to that all damn night while I drink Guinness hand over fist.
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Post by bdiplayer on Dec 9, 2010 13:47:11 GMT -5
The album cover is pure 20s surrealism, and is destined to become an iconic image related to music released in the early 21st Century.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 9, 2010 16:07:13 GMT -5
^^It becomes "iconic" if the album does well.
In the end, its if the album is GOOD and does WELL.
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