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Post by matt on Aug 16, 2009 17:33:27 GMT -5
Told you Wenger was a genius. He pisses all over anyone in terms of legendary status (yes even the Gallaghers).
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Post by puretone on Aug 16, 2009 18:03:42 GMT -5
Good result but it had more to do with everton playing fucking awful then arsenal being amazing. I say ye will finsh ahed of liverpool this season in 3rd but you will still end up miles off the top spot and get knocked out of every competition.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 16, 2009 18:06:56 GMT -5
Good result but it had more to do with everton playing fucking awful then arsenal being amazing. I say ye will finsh ahed of liverpool this season in 3rd but you will still end up miles off the top spot and get knocked out of every competition. Bollocks. Everton looked bad because we made them look bad. For the first 25mins they were holding their own and it was a pretty even match until our first goal went in. Birmingham were shit, and Hull were shit but all Utd and Chelsea could manage was to win by 1 goal. It's only 1 game, so I won't get over excited, but it's much better than many, including me, predicted. August is a real test for this Arsenal team - both Manchesters we play. |
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Post by puretone on Aug 16, 2009 18:14:20 GMT -5
Utd and chelsea simply just missed there chances they both could have one by many and yes everton were fucking awful it wasnt as if they were as good as ever and you played so amazing you destroyed them they were just bollox. Lets see where you finsh in may then
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 17, 2009 3:37:19 GMT -5
He pisses all over anyone in terms of legendary status. Every Manchester United fan on earth would claim otherwise. |
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Post by Protector of reality on Aug 18, 2009 6:12:24 GMT -5
He pisses all over anyone in terms of legendary status. Every Manchester United fan on earth would claim otherwise. in favour of that impatient scottish prick? |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 18, 2009 8:22:01 GMT -5
in favour of that impatient scottish prick? That impatient Scottish prick, the most successful manager of all-time, yes. |
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Aug 18, 2009 9:59:17 GMT -5
meeeeeeeeeec
mistake there
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Post by Moorish on Aug 19, 2009 2:59:00 GMT -5
Wenger says this is the make of break season: www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php?note_id=122574686910&id=20669912712&ref=mfI'd have to agree - as I said last season, and as I still believe going into this one: This is his last chance, if he doesn't win a major trophy, he needs to go - either by sacking or resignation. Don't feed me the line "who's going to replace him" cos I don't know, but I'm sure we can find a good enough manager. He's been resting on his laurels since 2005. I love the man, he's a genius, and he's our best ever manager, but he's starting to destroy his legacy - last trophy won will be half a decade ago if he fails this season. That's not good enough. Now, what constitutes as a major trophy? Ideally, the Prem is the most important (you can say whatever you like about the CL, but that has so much luck involved, the league is the most important), but FA Cup and CL are both up there too......Carling Cup not so much, but if he only won that at least it would be a start He claims this has been a 4-5 year projection and now would be the time it comes to fruition - if true, then he really is a genius for planning it out that way. However, with Denilson, Diaby, Song (even though he improved), Bendnter (who despite scoring has shit skills, lets be honest here), and a stuborness not to correct our DM problem I think he's wrong - at least when it comes to the Prem (the other comps are cups and are based on luck of the day). But then again - Rosicky, Arshavin, Fabregas, v Persie, Eduardo, Sagna, Nasri are all amazing.....and Theo, Wilshere, and Vela could be added to that list should they improve....who knows what we're instore for. I predict 4th and 3rd at best. Now, if we compete like we did 2 seasons ago and finish no more than 5-6 points off the pace, I'll have very little problem with it..... Here's to Saturday. (BTW, Everton away will be no easy task.....I do think dropping points will be a real possibility, I could see a 1-1....if we lose, this season is already over. I'm sorry, but you just cant simply lose your first game of the season to a team who's going to probably finish below you when you can only afford to lose 4-5 games at most out of the 38, and still be champions, it aint gonna happen) ESPN and FSC are both covering it in the US. Can't wait. Let's hope for a 2-0 convincing win. Almost EVERYTHING in this post marks you out as a total ballbag.  |
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Post by matt on Aug 21, 2009 11:44:32 GMT -5
Every Manchester United fan on earth would claim otherwise. in favour of that impatient scottish prick? Oh please. I'm not a fan on Fergie but every sane football fan has to respect him for his achievements, like Wenger. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 21, 2009 12:05:40 GMT -5
Ferguson has been the more successful manager of the two, of course. But Wenger has been the most important. The Frenchman only revolutionized the game from diets to curbing the drinking culture to bringing in new aspects of training.....
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 22, 2009 3:15:24 GMT -5
Ferguson has been the more successful manager of the two, of course. But Wenger has been the most important. To Arsenal, perhaps, but not universally. Do you happen to know anything about the shape Manchester United was in when Alex Ferguson took over from Ron Atkinson in 1986? |
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Post by matt on Aug 22, 2009 11:07:48 GMT -5
Ferguson has been the more successful manager of the two, of course. But Wenger has been the most important. To Arsenal, perhaps, but not universally. Do you happen to know anything about the shape Manchester United was in when Alex Ferguson took over from Ron Atkinson in 1986? Many admire Wenger more than Fergie due to his vision of football and the way he has gone about his success without the need of finance. Both are hard to choose between, but I say Wenger obviously. The notion of Wenger being sacked is a bloody stupid idea even if we don't win anything come the end of the season. I just seriously don't know why L4E thinks he should go. Anyway, another brilliant attacking performance today, but they are still a bit suspect at the back. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 22, 2009 11:32:20 GMT -5
Diaby scoring 2? Gallas thinking he's a striker with his 3rd goal in as many games? And our strikers having not netted once in 3?
Imagine how strong we could be when v Persie, Eddie, and Arshavin start hitting goalscoring form?
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Aug 22, 2009 19:16:25 GMT -5
Van Persie had bad luck, he made a great match
I'm reading many journalist that think Arsenal is a serious candidate to get the league if they are lucky with injuries
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 24, 2009 6:29:53 GMT -5
Arsenal have made a great start to the season, that's for sure, but there should be still be question marks over their title credentials - many of the same problems that have plagued them in the past continue to exist now. You certainly have to wonder whether their squad is strong enough to sustain a serious challenge, particularly if they make progress to the latter stages in the cup competitions, as most would expect.
It's simply not realistic to expect the same thirteen or fourteen players to turn up and perform game-in, game-out for the next nine months, particularly when that group contains injury-prone players like Van Persie, Rosicky, and Clichy. The likes of Nikolas Bendtner and Emmanuel Eboue will not win you league titles.
Inexperience also continues to be a factor. Only Gallas and Silvestre have been part of a Premiership-winning side, and that whilst at Chelsea and Manchester United respectively; the point being that the vast majority of Arsenal's squad do not yet know the pressures of maintaining a successful championship challenge at the highest level of the game. This same problem tripped them up in 2008, and may well do so this season.
Fuck, I wouldn't even trust Gallas to hold it together.
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Post by matt on Aug 26, 2009 10:33:32 GMT -5
Arsenal have made a great start to the season, that's for sure, but there should be still be question marks over their title credentials - many of the same problems that have plagued them in the past continue to exist now. You certainly have to wonder whether their squad is strong enough to sustain a serious challenge, particularly if they make progress to the latter stages in the cup competitions, as most would expect. It's simply not realistic to expect the same thirteen or fourteen players to turn up and perform game-in, game-out for the next nine months, particularly when that group contains injury-prone players like Van Persie, Rosicky, and Clichy. The likes of Nikolas Bendtner and Emmanuel Eboue will not win you league titles. Inexperience also continues to be a factor. Only Gallas and Silvestre have been part of a Premiership-winning side, and that whilst at Chelsea and Manchester United respectively; the point being that the vast majority of Arsenal's squad do not yet know the pressures of maintaining a successful championship challenge at the highest level of the game. This same problem tripped them up in 2008, and may well do so this season. Fuck, I wouldn't even trust Gallas to hold it together. Well, the majority of this team have had the experience of sustaining a title challenge for some time. In those two years since that game with Birmingham, many would have matured mentally and physically. Hell, there's loads of teams that have won the title without having any experience of winning it, like Chelsea in 2005, Arsenal in 1998, Blackburn in 1995 and the various United teams who hadn't had experience. The team are more united without trouble makers like Adebayor, while the sale of Toure with the replacement of Vermaelen leaves Gallas without a burden alongside him. True, I do believe that they do need to buy a couple of reinforcements in before the end of August - hell, I'm all for the aquisition of Vieira again. Teams with an average age of 28-29 can only improve 5% per season, but a team with an average age of 22-23 can improve by 30%, so says Wenger. Whether we win the title - it's far too early to tell, but I think we'll have a decent crack at it. One thing is for sure - we'll be a vast improvement on last year's side. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2009 23:13:27 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I don't think Eduardo dived. It was clearly not a penalty, mind, but I don't think he dived. He's not that sort of player, he doesn't have that reputation, we had 2-0 agg lead and Celtic had it all to do, we were dominating the game, there was no need to even cheat in that circumstance (of course that third goal put the tie to bed, though)
He may have fell over to avoid the GK, he may have tripped over himself, i don't know but I highly doubt Eduardo decided to cheat. From what i've seen, he's one of the fairest players in the game today.
Eboue on the other hand is our biggest disgrace, hopefully he's learning not to be such a cheating twat, but credit for his goal today.
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Post by globe on Aug 27, 2009 2:47:19 GMT -5
Pish. It was a blatant dive.
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Post by oioioi on Aug 27, 2009 7:34:22 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I don't think Eduardo dived. I Fuck off. It was a clear dive. I think he thought that Boruc was going to touch him, and he just gave it a bit extra to get the pen, which is inexcusable. Obviously Boruc made no contact (from what I can see) and it's cheating. However, I think the reaction last night and this morning is a bit OTT. It happens all the fucking time. I'm not defending it, but some of the comments in the press are silly. |
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Post by oioioi on Aug 27, 2009 7:40:19 GMT -5
Arseblogger speaks sense as always "Was it a dive? Yes. He might have been looking for the contact, but either way it's not nice to see any player dive, least of an Arsenal player. If we condemn the opposition we can't excuse it when one of our own does it. Put the shoe on the other foot for a moment and if that penalty had been given against us you'd be furious - that's the yardstick. Nevertheless the reaction to it from some pundits has been ludicrously over the top. The first goal last night was always going to be crucial, it's a shame it came about the way it did, but can anyone really tell me that over the course of the 180 minutes it made a difference to the overall result? Celtic had two shots on target over both legs. One tame effort in the first half of the first leg and one in the 92nd minute last night which resulted in Donati's goal. Arsenal scored five goals. Even without the Eduardo penalty we'd have won last night yet they're bleating on about Eduardo being a 'cheat'. It's funny but these are the same people who told you 'Tiny Taylor' "isn't that kind of guy" when he shattered Eduardo's leg and ankle and put him out of football for over a year. It's easy to condemn a dive, it's safe, yet you rarely hear the same condemnation for acts of violence or dangerous tackles. Eduardo is a cheat yet Michael Owen is 'clever' when he wins a penalty against Argentina with a dive. Steven Gerrard is notoriously light on his feet yet he carries no reputation as a diver. You can be sure that Eduardo will after one incident. Jingoism? Xenophobia? Arsenalism? Call it what you want but we all know there are rules that don't apply to some because of who they play for or what international shirt they pull on. I'm not trying to excuse him or justify it but a little perspective is needed. Eduardo's dive was not his finest moment but in the grand scheme of things it meant little and he does not deserve the kind of vilification he's received from some quarters. It was just a dive. It wasn't this. It wasn't this either. Football would be better served if people paid more attention to things that really damaged the game. Now, regular readers will know I'm all for retrospective punishment. That if there's a way to punish a player for an obvious dive after the fact then it should be looked at. It would certainly act as a deterrent, because diving is something we should try and get rid of as much as possible. I've got some sympathy for the Celtic players because we've been on the receiving end of a dive more than once. Rooney's leap over Sol Campbell to end the Invincibles run at Old Trafford and Dirk Kuyt in the Champions League quarter-final spring to mind - both of them affected us far more than Eduardo's tumble did Celtic last night. Yet I didn't hear much in the way of criticism for those players. So while I'll happily hold my hands up and admit Eduardo took a dive last night, and I'll agree with you that it's not nice to see, don't expect me to sit here and let the press and pundits go to town a man who does not deserve that kind of treatment. If we had won the tie 1-0 then maybe there's a point worth making. The fact is Arsenal scored five, might have scored at least a few more than that, Celtic had two shots on target over two games and Arsenal were more than good value for the win." www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog |
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Post by Unlikely Lad on Aug 27, 2009 8:00:03 GMT -5
Players dive all the time, and even though its pretty ugly, I don't see how its gonna stop. Maybe players should be sanctioned after the match if the ref didn't see it? Would make sense..
Anyhow Eduardo's dive wouldn't have changed the outcome of that tie.
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Post by matt on Aug 27, 2009 10:12:38 GMT -5
Eduardo definitely did dive. I'm all against diving and everything, but the media have blown this out of all proportions.
Probably because it's Arsenal and the majority of the English media have something against them for some reason, but it seems alright for Ronaldo and Drogba to do it doesn't it. Nobody batters an eye lid when they cheat.
Last season in the CL Semi Final at the Emirates, Ronaldo dives for a free kick - a few minutes later the free kick is in the back of the net. It was all 'he's so great' and not so much 'he's a dirty cheat'. Gerrard has done it various times aswell.
The media want Eduardo lyched for this despite this being the first time he's done such a thing. Cheating it certainly was, and something needs to be done about it, but to punish Arsenal and JUST Arsenal is taking the piss. Why should he not get away with it?
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Post by matt on Aug 28, 2009 9:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 28, 2009 12:24:17 GMT -5
He cheated but it is unacceptable to punish one player out of hundreds more who do the same. I don't necessarily disagree with their actions, but it's important that UEFA cite the Eduardo case as a precedent, and ensure that all such future offences are punished equally and consistently. |
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