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Post by cloudburster on Jul 7, 2013 18:55:48 GMT -5
If it was already written (instrumentally) prior to Noel's joining, and the melody and lyrics were written by Liam and Chris, Noel had no part in the songwriting. Does anyone honestly believe that? Seems a bit OTT. I don't think he would've gotten away with 'Written by Noel Gallagher' if he had no part in it to be honest.. |
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Post by bardes on Jul 13, 2013 8:11:18 GMT -5
It's weird, but I 'noticed' that Liams favourite lyrics is Imagine by Lennon  (he said it in interview) |
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 14, 2013 6:15:35 GMT -5
"Im older than i wish to be" (rockin chair) sounds very similar to "And round this town you've ceased to be" (my big mouth)
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Post by noellydlbia on Jul 14, 2013 7:51:54 GMT -5
"Im older than i wish to be" (rockin chair) sounds very similar to "And round this town you've ceased to be" (my big mouth) wow |
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Post by rebus on Jul 14, 2013 19:02:03 GMT -5
I've just discovered that the backing vocals on the 2nd verse of Stand By Me are actually sung by Liam, Noel does the ''don't you know'' and chorus parts. Never noticed that before  No, that's not right. Noel does all backing vox on Stand By Me. It's clearly his voice. Liam's too distinctive to be confused with Noel. |
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Post by forestfan on Jul 18, 2013 19:30:32 GMT -5
at 9:16 Noel describes an actual Oasis in an interview hahah
I was mindblown
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Post by Thomas on Jul 18, 2013 20:09:32 GMT -5
I've just discovered that the backing vocals on the 2nd verse of Stand By Me are actually sung by Liam, Noel does the ''don't you know'' and chorus parts. Never noticed that before I've listened to it carefully and... it really seems to be Liam. Especially in the "never give you" part. I'm very confused now  |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 22, 2013 15:23:23 GMT -5
There's 2 melodica parts on Oasis tunes, both are played by Noel and both are on album closers (Champagne Supernova & Soldier On).
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Post by footballdropout on Jul 22, 2013 16:03:53 GMT -5
The intro to Underneath the Sky reappears at intervals during the song, most noticeably a few seconds before the end. Heard this late at night for the first time so maybe not quite the revelation it is to everybody else, but quite surprising to me. That, and I Hope, I Think, I Know and The Fame are nearly identical, structure and chord wise, as well as production. Still both top songs, though.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 22, 2013 16:33:09 GMT -5
If you listen to all of the songs on 5.1 surround sound (properly set-up) you'll notice lots of little guitar licks and layers that aren't detectable on your normal two speaker stereo or headphones. You can even hear the choir clearly in 'The Turning' - I highly recommend this way of listening if you haven't already done it.
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Post by Tapir on Jul 26, 2013 17:44:57 GMT -5
I dunno if this has been mentioned before, but I was watching the video for Live Forever earlier, and does anyone else think it's a tribute to the Stone Roses? You've got Tony McCarroll being buried and then coming back- I Am The Resurrection. Bonehead is stood under a shower- Waterfall. There's a bit when Noel's playing guitar on some steps, and someone goes past, then it's reversed- Some of the Stone Roses tracks were other tracks reversed. I'm probably reading too much into this, but y'know, thought I'd share it! Thats actually some deep thinking right there, never noticed this |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jul 26, 2013 18:21:05 GMT -5
That, and I Hope, I Think, I Know and The Fame are nearly identical, structure and chord wise, as well as production. Still both top songs, though. fuck yeah  |
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 27, 2013 4:11:46 GMT -5
There's a lead guitar bit in It's good to be free, at 2:33, which plays exactly the same cool thing played by the bass in Ride's song Seagull intro (andy bell band pre oasis). Which is also the same riff played by andy (bass) in the Keep the Dream Alive outro.
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Post by bardes on Jul 27, 2013 7:31:08 GMT -5
There's 2 melodica parts on Oasis tunes, both are played by Noel and both are on album closers (Champagne Supernova & Soldier On). No. Wikipedia: Champagne Supernova "Paul "Bonehead" Arthurs – rhythm guitar, melodica" |
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 27, 2013 8:21:15 GMT -5
4.25ish in Slide Away. Liam doesn't pronounce the "d" so sounds like "Slive Away".
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 28, 2013 4:14:06 GMT -5
^ Slide Away just came up on shuffle and, it's come up before and I don't remember if it was ever established, but who does the backing vocals before the "and I'm gonna try now / don't know, don't care" part. It isn't Noel but doesn't sound like Liam either. Supersonic backing vocals are credited to one or both of the Griffiths brothers but I thought that was because it was recorded at The Realies demo studio in advance of the 'proper' recording session so it isn't them is it?
David Jay are you out there? ;-)
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Post by davidjay on Jul 28, 2013 12:19:09 GMT -5
^ Slide Away just came up on shuffle and, it's come up before and I don't remember if it was ever established, but who does the backing vocals before the "and I'm gonna try now / don't know, don't care" part. It isn't Noel but doesn't sound like Liam either. Supersonic backing vocals are credited to one or both of the Griffiths brothers but I thought that was because it was recorded at The Realies demo studio in advance of the 'proper' recording session so it isn't them is it? David Jay are you out there? ;-) Hi! I just quickly listened to Slide Away and, to me, it sounds like Noel singing backing vocals prior to the part you mentioned... Could you give a time for the mystery backing vocals and I'll give it a closer listen? If I recall correctly Slide Away wasn't recorded with the Real People during the 'Live Demonstration' sessions (Jan-March 1993), as it hadn't been written at that point. As you said they were involved with the recording of Supersonic though, with Tony Griffiths singing backing vocals when it was recorded at the Pink Museum studios in December 1993. I think Slide Away was written in May or June 1993, after Noel met Johnny Marr for the first time. "(One of the) key guitars on Definitely Maybe (was) a 1960 sunburst Gibson Les Paul lent to Noel by ex-Smith Johnny Marr, who was something of a mentor of Oasis. Marr had bought the 1960 ’Burst from The Who’s Pete Townshend. When Noel received the guitar from Marr, he told this author, “‘Slide Away’ came out… it seemed to write itself.” Gallagher acknowledged the debt to both The Smiths and Neil Young’s “Cortez The Killer” when writing “Slide Away.” “Live Forever” also was written and played on this 1960 Gibson Les Paul." www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/guitars-of-noel-gallagher-0524-2012.aspxAs far as I can establish, Slide Away was first recorded between 8-23rd January 1994, during the sessions at Monnow Valley studio with producer Dave Batchelor. Not sure, but I don't think the Realies were in the studio with them at that stage. After Batchelor tried changing the song's tempo engineer Dave Scott suggested they re-record it at the original speed. This finally did the song justice and became the only recording from that session to be used on the finished album (albeit in remixed form) Unreleased Eden Studios mix (Anjali Dutt). A drier and more understated sound than the released mix. Full band outro. Noel's backing vocals are also more prominent throughout. Matrix Studios mix (Owen Morris - released version) Here are some more links to interviews on my site that may be of interest... The Real People on recording Live Demonstration: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=544Dave Scott on recording Oasis at the Pink Museum (Supersonic session) and Monnow Valley: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=588 |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 28, 2013 16:06:18 GMT -5
Incrediblly fascinating info as usual, thanks for sharing.
The bit I thought wasn't Noel was 3:06-3:18 (Slide in baby) on the DM version I just thought it was a a bit shrill & whiny (for lack of a better term) to be Noel's voice but... I could totally be wrong, like liam his voice has certainly gone through changes over the years.
Also, you're probably the best person to ask if you don't mind, it's been established that Bonehead played some colourful, unusual parts on Oasis tunes (mellotron on Cast No Shadow & Wonderwall etc when Noel decided he would take all the guitar and bass parts himself on those two tunes) just wondered if you knew if he played the melodica on Champgane Supernova - its down on Wiki (unverified) that Bonehead did. Possilbly the same thing happened on Champagne Supernova as the other two tunes?.
Thanks again for the excellent material you contribute.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 28, 2013 17:23:23 GMT -5
^ Slide Away just came up on shuffle and, it's come up before and I don't remember if it was ever established, but who does the backing vocals before the "and I'm gonna try now / don't know, don't care" part. It isn't Noel but doesn't sound like Liam either. Supersonic backing vocals are credited to one or both of the Griffiths brothers but I thought that was because it was recorded at The Realies demo studio in advance of the 'proper' recording session so it isn't them is it? David Jay are you out there? ;-) Not sure on that one. One I always wondered about was the backing vocals on D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman? Sounds like Liam to me but someone on YouTube was adamant that it's someone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 18:06:22 GMT -5
^ Slide Away just came up on shuffle and, it's come up before and I don't remember if it was ever established, but who does the backing vocals before the "and I'm gonna try now / don't know, don't care" part. It isn't Noel but doesn't sound like Liam either. Supersonic backing vocals are credited to one or both of the Griffiths brothers but I thought that was because it was recorded at The Realies demo studio in advance of the 'proper' recording session so it isn't them is it? David Jay are you out there? ;-) Not sure on that one. One I always wondered about was the backing vocals on D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman? Sounds like Liam to me but someone on YouTube was adamant that it's someone else. Liam. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 29, 2013 4:48:39 GMT -5
^ Yep Liam does backing vocals on two low-key recordings Spaceman and the Warchild version of Fade Away. After Summer 1995 he seems to have refused to do them on Noel's tunes and (as we all know) made a point to leave the stage during live songs when Noel sang lead.
I assume that their studio collaborations had the potential to be explosive, and during the DOYS interviews Noel said that when Liam was doing his vocals Noel had to pretend not to be there, listen from another room and make sure any criticism was relayed diplomatically through Dave Sardy, who clearly had the role of referee and peacemaker as well as producer and mixer, to minimize potential flashpoints.
At Maine Road when the equipment kept breaking down, Noel busked the opening few bars of Spaceman live, Liam tried to remember some words, but gave up, admitting 'I don't know the words, I never sang this one!
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 29, 2013 5:40:23 GMT -5
Liam's backing vocals for Spaceman are incredible. Should have got him to do the backing vocals for DLBIA too.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 29, 2013 7:16:40 GMT -5
Gallagher acknowledged the debt to both The Smiths and Neil Young’s “Cortez The Killer” when writing “Slide Away.” The chord sequence and general tone of Shout It Out Loud is also massively influenced by Cortez the Killer, Noel even acknowledged this in an interview a few months before it came out when he describing what his then 'new' songs were like in 2000-01 interview. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2013 7:39:57 GMT -5
Gallagher acknowledged the debt to both The Smiths and Neil Young’s “Cortez The Killer” when writing “Slide Away.” The chord sequence and general tone of Shout It Out Loud is also massively influenced by Cortez the Killer, Noel even acknowledged this in an interview a few months before it came out when he describing what his then 'new' songs were like in 2000-01 interview. This is all true. When Oasis was touring SOTSOG in May-June of 2000, Noel mentioned to a couple of press outlets that he had written a bunch of new songs for their next album (Heathen Chemistry). One of them being "Gotta Get It Back" (a song he hasn't mentioned since then) and "Shout It Out Loud" which Noel described as Neil Young meets Pink Floyd. Mission accomplished on that! Love those guitar solos...............something that was lacking drastically on latter era Oasis material. "He came dancing across the water" |
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Post by Bruno on Jul 29, 2013 8:27:33 GMT -5
Liam's backing vocals for Spaceman are incredible. Should have got him to do the backing vocals for DLBIA too. I believe he is doing the backing vocals on the chorus of Don't Look Back In Anger, just that his vocals are quite low in the mix. |
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