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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 10:29:11 GMT -5
So,I've realized today that on a page of Noel's notebook there's a songlist and there's Columbia...the Griffiths wrote it? mmh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 14:11:41 GMT -5
So,I've realized today that on a page of Noel's notebook there's a songlist and there's Columbia...the Griffiths wrote it? mmh Chris Griffiths of The Real People wrote the verses and Liam wrote the chorus to an instrumental jam they had had since before Noel joined I think or at least from very early on. Chris also co-wrote Rockin' Chair. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 14:31:46 GMT -5
Are we sure that they wrote Columbia? mmh
Talking about Rocking chair,I think they sued Noel,cos Chris once said "there's one Oasis song,Rocking chair that's really similar to one of our songs" or something like that,so I don't think they co-write that,is more like they gave him credits
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 14:32:48 GMT -5
gave him credits just for not being "officially" sued
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 14:45:36 GMT -5
Are we sure that they wrote Columbia? mmh Talking about Rocking chair,I think they sued Noel,cos Chris once said "there's one Oasis song,Rocking chair that's really similar to one of our songs" or something like that,so I don't think they co-write that,is more like they gave him credits Yes, we are sure. Tony McCaroll said so in "Oasis: The Truth". The Real People were a massive impact on a lot of the songs that then ended up on Definitely Maybe and they helped Oasis record the demo tape that got them signed with Creation Records. Says it all in the book |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 15:06:58 GMT -5
Can't find the book here...and hiwever I don't think I'd be able to read a whole book in English ahah
So it was an instrumental before Noel joined,I tought it was after,I mean,the Realies knew Oasis before Noel joined?
And what was it doing on Noel's notebook?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 15:15:30 GMT -5
If it was already written (instrumentally) prior to Noel's joining, and the melody and lyrics were written by Liam and Chris, Noel had no part in the songwriting. Does anyone honestly believe that? Seems a bit OTT.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 15:19:16 GMT -5
I don't think it was an instrumental before Noel joined,it was surely an instrumental cos also Noel said that,but I'm not sure even if the Griffiths knew Oasis before 1991...there are two guitar parts on it,and if it was an instrumental,who played the riff?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 15:40:40 GMT -5
Can't find the book here...and hiwever I don't think I'd be able to read a whole book in English ahah So it was an instrumental before Noel joined,I tought it was after,I mean,the Realies knew Oasis before Noel joined? And what was it doing on Noel's notebook? Oh, yeh I suppose a whole book would be a bit much  Yeh, it was an instrumental from before Noel joined or when Noel joined but very early on I can't remember which, but they used to play it at any gigs they did and rehearsals and they kept it in their back pocket, like Liam did with the Flick of the Finger melody and lyrics were eventually added when Liam and Chris Griffiths sang along to it at the recording for the demo tape |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 15:54:33 GMT -5
I think it was after,Noel said something about it,and as I said before it's a song with a two guitar parts,at least I think Noel came up with the riff
But if they wrote it why they didn't get any credits? LOL
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 5, 2013 16:00:15 GMT -5
Not Oasis, but there's background whispering in Soul Love, adding to the paranoid-feeling of the track. I meant Soul Love, NOT Soon Come Tomorrow, as originally mistyped.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 16:19:57 GMT -5
I think it was after,Noel said something about it,and as I said before it's a song with a two guitar parts,at least I think Noel came up with the riff But if they wrote it why they didn't get any credits? LOL Noel only agreed to join the band if he wrote all the songs, when Liam and Chris Griffiths wrote a song that ended up being pretty good he must have thought that he should have the credit for the song like all the rest, don't know why tbh. I'm guessing Liam regrets letting Noel have all the credit for it now... |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 5, 2013 16:30:41 GMT -5
Yeah but it's strange that Liam haven't said anything...ok,at the end who cares,we have the song,we have the album |
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Post by frjdoasis on Jul 5, 2013 19:23:21 GMT -5
So,I've realized today that on a page of Noel's notebook there's a songlist and there's Columbia...the Griffiths wrote it? mmh Link alla foto del quaderno?  |
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Post by liveforeveradam on Jul 5, 2013 20:41:50 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to sound insane, and I think I am insane, but...
I studied the poem 'Porphyrias Lover' (quite a famous poem) at school for my GCSEs earlier this year and when I was listening to Bag It Up recently I think I found similarities between it and the poem. The line 'Lay your love on the fire' reminded me of it and then when it said 'Tell me what you desire' it actually made me think that Bag it up could be about that poem. If it actually is there'll most likely be other lyrics that link to it, but I can't really be bothered checking and reading the poem again but if any of you know it then this might interest you.
I know that this is really not likely, I doubt Noel would be interested in poetry or even if he was I seriously doubt he'd write a song about it.
I just thought I'd let yall know because it scared the shit out of me.
PS: I am not a nerd who loves studying poems or anything like that, in fact I hate it.
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 6, 2013 10:38:14 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Columbia was an instrumental they played at the start of the gig before Liam walked on stage, possibly even adapted from Snakebite? Noel was in the band then. It's all on the Definitely Maybe DVD, Liam said 'it was an instrumental, was gonna stay an instrumental, then we wrote some words for it'. I remember Noel admitting that Liam wrote most of the words but as everyone was off their tits and he was the one with the publishing deal, he took the credit for it.
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 6, 2013 10:40:40 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to sound insane, and I think I am insane, but... I studied the poem 'Porphyrias Lover' (quite a famous poem) at school for my GCSEs earlier this year and when I was listening to Bag It Up recently I think I found similarities between it and the poem. The line 'Lay your love on the fire' reminded me of it and then when it said 'Tell me what you desire' it actually made me think that Bag it up could be about that poem. If it actually is there'll most likely be other lyrics that link to it, but I can't really be bothered checking and reading the poem again but if any of you know it then this might interest you. I know that this is really not likely, I doubt Noel would be interested in poetry or even if he was I seriously doubt he'd write a song about it. I just thought I'd let yall know because it scared the shit out of me. PS: I am not a nerd who loves studying poems or anything like that, in fact I hate it. I think Go Let It Out's lyrics are based on a poem, and The Importance of Being Idle was inspired by a book, so I wouldn't rule it out. It would be interesting if you could dig it out and check. |
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Post by molly95 on Jul 6, 2013 10:46:16 GMT -5
I dunno if this has been mentioned before, but I was watching the video for Live Forever earlier, and does anyone else think it's a tribute to the Stone Roses? You've got Tony McCarroll being buried and then coming back- I Am The Resurrection. Bonehead is stood under a shower- Waterfall. There's a bit when Noel's playing guitar on some steps, and someone goes past, then it's reversed- Some of the Stone Roses tracks were other tracks reversed. I'm probably reading too much into this, but y'know, thought I'd share it! |
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Post by cigsandalc on Jul 6, 2013 11:09:32 GMT -5
Ok, I am going to sound insane, and I think I am insane, but... I studied the poem 'Porphyrias Lover' (quite a famous poem) at school for my GCSEs earlier this year and when I was listening to Bag It Up recently I think I found similarities between it and the poem. The line 'Lay your love on the fire' reminded me of it and then when it said 'Tell me what you desire' it actually made me think that Bag it up could be about that poem. If it actually is there'll most likely be other lyrics that link to it, but I can't really be bothered checking and reading the poem again but if any of you know it then this might interest you. I know that this is really not likely, I doubt Noel would be interested in poetry or even if he was I seriously doubt he'd write a song about it. I just thought I'd let yall know because it scared the shit out of me. PS: I am not a nerd who loves studying poems or anything like that, in fact I hate it. I think Go Let It Out's lyrics are based on a poem, and The Importance of Being Idle was inspired by a book, so I wouldn't rule it out. It would be interesting if you could dig it out and check. I know i read something about it back in 2000 in some Q-Mag. Don´t know why i still remember shit like that Actually Noel "borrowed" lyrics from the Heptones song "Book of Rules" Isn't it strange how princesses and kings, in clown-ragged capers in sawdust rings? While common people like you and me, we'll be builders for eternity. But The Heptones "borrowed" those lyrics from the R.L. Sharpe Poem "A Bag Of Tools" Isn't it strange That princes and kings, And clowns that caper In sawdust rings And common people Like you and me Are builders for eternity? |
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Post by Bruno on Jul 6, 2013 11:40:13 GMT -5
I think Go Let It Out's lyrics are based on a poem, and The Importance of Being Idle was inspired by a book, so I wouldn't rule it out. It would be interesting if you could dig it out and check. Go Let It Out just whacked some of it's lyrics from a poem, it wasn't based on one. |
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Post by green eyed boy on Jul 7, 2013 2:04:23 GMT -5
I've just discovered that the backing vocals on the 2nd verse of Stand By Me are actually sung by Liam, Noel does the ''don't you know'' and chorus parts. Never noticed that before  |
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Post by noellydlbia on Jul 7, 2013 11:14:08 GMT -5
Their first single (supersonic) starts with: I need to be myself, i cant be no one else
Their second single (shakermaker) starts with: Id like to be somebody else
Contradictory lyrics?
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Post by cigsandalc on Jul 7, 2013 11:22:53 GMT -5
Their first single (supersonic) starts with: I need to be myself, i cant be no one else Their second single (shakermaker) starts with: Id like to be somebody else Contradictory lyrics? And their third single (live forever) starts with: Maybe i don't really want to know  |
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 7, 2013 12:22:26 GMT -5
Their first single (supersonic) starts with: I need to be myself, i cant be no one else Their second single (shakermaker) starts with: Id like to be somebody else Contradictory lyrics? And their third single (live forever) starts with: Maybe i don't really want to know And their 4th single starts with: Is it my imagination... |
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 7, 2013 13:21:40 GMT -5
Their first single (supersonic) starts with: I need to be myself, i cant be no one else Their second single (shakermaker) starts with: Id like to be somebody else Contradictory lyrics? Also, on DOYS Liam repeats the lines 'All in good time' about half a dozen times at the end of Shock Of The Lightning, before going into the next song 'I'm Outta Time' |
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