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Post by bankrobber on Apr 19, 2009 13:17:22 GMT -5
Rubbish Zak was and is still drumming with the who, Chris Sharrock i'm pretty sure will be 'full time' by the time of the next album coming out. i know it doesnt matter too much, but I kinda hope they'd make him an official member, otherwise its always lingering that he may be off at any point |
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Post by pat713 on Apr 19, 2009 13:29:08 GMT -5
In the interview in the L4E newsroom, Gem and Andy talk about how much energy Chris has brought to the band. They said the reason they feel so confident onstage now, is mostly contributed to him, I hope he becomes a permanent member.
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Post by thedon on Apr 19, 2009 14:12:08 GMT -5
This baffles me this. There never seems to be a general consensus...everyone always has their own preference regarding Oasis drummers. How can someone sitting there whacking things form such subjectivity? I don't ever notice the drums, I couldn't care less who the drummer is.
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Post by caimanque on Apr 19, 2009 14:24:30 GMT -5
This baffles me this. There never seems to be a general consensus...everyone always has their own preference regarding Oasis drummers. How can someone sitting there whacking things form such subjectivity? I don't ever notice the drums, I couldn't care less who the drummer is. Thats because you didn't consider a drummer important, isn't it? |
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Post by Jazzvi on Apr 19, 2009 14:36:05 GMT -5
Alan made a huge contribution to create the "Oasis sound" that defined the 90's and that was reflected on Morning Glory. That album wouldn't have sounded the same with another drummer.
BHN is also a great album in part due to his drumming. He knew what beat did great with the songs Noel was creating at that moment. Maybe he got boring after SOTSOG, but till then I think he was the perfect Oasis drummer, not the best drummer in the world nor the worst.
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Post by Protector of reality on Apr 19, 2009 16:20:54 GMT -5
Everytime Zak strikes the drum he sounds as if its covered in mud and hes trying to pull it out of the mud. Which made Oasis sound slow and flat. Sharrok is a show man and hes probably the most lively member in live performances these days.
Whitey, like him or loathe him He is Oasis, even if you are someone who that likes oasis because of DBTT, He helped make Oasis the biggest band in the world when they were and no other drummer who has drummed for them can say that. He added excitement to a fucking mess left by McCarrol.
Noel treated him like shit in later years.
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Apr 19, 2009 17:59:26 GMT -5
Loud, 2/4 beats that are aggressive are boring. Alan had style. Drummers don't impress me bravado |
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Post by caimanque on Apr 19, 2009 18:37:06 GMT -5
Everytime Zak strikes the drum he sounds as if its covered in mud and hes trying to pull it out of the mud. Which made Oasis sound slow and flat.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 21:47:29 GMT -5
Alan became boring, which is probably why he was eventually drowned out by drum machines/loops.
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Post by luzzi on Apr 19, 2009 21:52:30 GMT -5
Loud, 2/4 beats that are aggressive are boring. Alan had style. Drummers don't impress me bravado He did have stlye but it just was wasting away. With Zak and Chris, it brought life back to the drums. |
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Apr 19, 2009 21:57:12 GMT -5
He did not become boring, it was a matter of stagnation. He recorded on WTSMG, Be Here Now, and SOTSOG - they were all amazing. Heathen Chemistry is the only record where he didn't hit on his stride. In fact during the SOTSOG tour and the tour for HC and promo performances etc he wasn't really all that ENERGISING. But he was still great. The band really just moved away from his sound.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 21:59:54 GMT -5
He did not become boring, it was a matter of stagnation. He recorded on WTSMG, Be Here Now, and SOTSOG - they were all amazing. Heathen Chemistry is the only record where he didn't hit on his stride. In fact during the SOTSOG tour and the tour for HC and promo performances etc he wasn't really all that ENERGISING. But he was still great. The band really just moved away from his sound. Exactly, he became boring. After a good 6 or so years, it's still the goddamn same beat every time. It's like he was stuck in a rut by the end of SotSoG (just compare DLBIA from then and any 95-96 performance). Doesn't help that, when Steve was on board, he fucking kicked everything in the ass and that they drowned Alan out live on at least 5 tunes with drum machines/loops. |
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Post by bankrobber on Apr 20, 2009 4:44:06 GMT -5
you want the drummer in Oasis to blend in
Zak didnt blend in - maybe he was too loud or hard on the drums?
Alan blended in - maybe slightly too much
Chris blends in - but he has that higher energy, not as loud or agressive than Zak, actually similar kinda punk edge that Tony had
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Post by fastfuse on Apr 20, 2009 6:46:30 GMT -5
 ....Chris Sharrock is the loudest drummer oasis have had have you seen the size of the drums he's using? He plays most songs using the heavier end of his sticks and is normally sweating after Rock N' Roll Star.
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Post by Marcos on Apr 20, 2009 7:08:58 GMT -5
Chris is the best drummer oasis ever had
he has the energy that it takes to play songs like rock 'n' roll star and knows how to slow down his hands in songs like wonderwall
zak was great, but he didn't know how to do that.. i agree with the person above who said he made oasis sound slow and flat.. i'm actually glad he's gone
was watching the There and Then dvd the other day and i thought "my god, i miss alan so much.." but then i started watching the Witness Festival 2002 and i was like "what the fuck is that?".. he sounded so boring and uninteresting
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Post by luzzi on Apr 20, 2009 9:23:46 GMT -5
I guess we can all conlude that Chris is the best drummer for Oasis.
Agressive and loud like Zak, but at the same time smooth and complexed as Alan. It was fun watching him play because you know he's having fun. I wish I could play one song with them, probably Lyla or The Importance of Being Idle.
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Apr 20, 2009 11:26:16 GMT -5
He did not become boring, it was a matter of stagnation. He recorded on WTSMG, Be Here Now, and SOTSOG - they were all amazing. Heathen Chemistry is the only record where he didn't hit on his stride. In fact during the SOTSOG tour and the tour for HC and promo performances etc he wasn't really all that ENERGISING. But he was still great. The band really just moved away from his sound. Exactly, he became boring. After a good 6 or so years, it's still the goddamn same beat every time. It's like he was stuck in a rut by the end of SotSoG (just compare DLBIA from then and any 95-96 performance). Doesn't help that, when Steve was on board, he fucking kicked everything in the ass and that they drowned Alan out live on at least 5 tunes with drum machines/loops. Well, once again I'd like to differentiate between BORING and STAGNATING. He didn't start doing something that was different and boring, what happened was that he became uninspiring following SOTSOG. Perhaps that is because the band changed up and his mates were gone. Who knows. But I am not pegging this one on Whitey at all - it is clearly Noel's fault for mistreating him post-2000. Plus, as the band changed it wasn't right for Alan. If we all agree that he's marked himself out with his jazz background then HC was NOT a fit for him. It makes sense that he didn't do well on the record. And I will freely admit that he wouldn't have done well on DBTT, and DOYS is obvious. All this being said, Chris is doing the right thing for Oasis and I sincerely hope that he's on the next record, whenever it appears. |
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Post by Protector of reality on Apr 20, 2009 15:38:53 GMT -5
IMHO I think Zak was the best drummer that Oasis may ever have, but I also believe that the other drummers had something special Ye fine maybe he was? But it didnt do anything for Oasis' sound |
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Post by Protector of reality on Apr 20, 2009 15:40:15 GMT -5
Loud, 2/4 beats that are aggressive are boring. Alan had style. Drummers don't impress me bravado He did have stlye but it just was wasting away. With Zak and Chris, it brought life back to the drums. |
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Post by Protector of reality on Apr 20, 2009 15:43:43 GMT -5
Everytime Zak strikes the drum he sounds as if its covered in mud and hes trying to pull it out of the mud. Which made Oasis sound slow and flat. dont deny it, its true, too stompy and un imaginative. Chris or Allan |
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Post by caimanque on Apr 20, 2009 18:44:10 GMT -5
dont deny it, its true, too stompy and un imaginative. Chris or Alan You don't know that. Please, at least, let's talk objectively. |
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Post by goletitout1986 on Apr 21, 2009 7:26:19 GMT -5
Whitey will always be the best drummer for me. Made me pick up my sticks. Wonderwall, Go let it out, Gas panic (live), Rock n Roll star (live) amongst many others put him firmly ahead of any other drummer in my book.
Zac was great for songs like Lyla and Mucky fingers and Chris is doing a fine job now, but what I'd give to see Whitey back behind the kit...
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Apr 21, 2009 12:32:26 GMT -5
Well, as much as I think that Whitey was the best drummer, I certainly don't want him behind the kit again. His sound was not right for DBTT and would have sounded outrageous on DOYS. I'm assuming that whatever Oasis record comes next will again not be best suited for Alan.
That said, I don't think that Zak did the best job on the records and I believe that Chris would have played the parts a bit more interestingly. Zak is very talented but he makes the parts pretty boring for the most part. I will commend him for his work on TIOBI and MOS, though. Both sounded very very awesome.
Zak, unfortunately, was not right for Oasis live because his treatment of old songs was - well, lacking. He did a terrible job with songs like Supersonic, Champagne Supernova, Live Forever, Wonderwall etc
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Post by Protector of reality on Apr 22, 2009 16:20:35 GMT -5
Zak and Chris are God sends, fucking Lord Dont Slow Me Down, with Zaks bit in the end of Rock n'Roll Star. Chris is just awesome with his stick tricks and his fast style. Alan is boring. I'm in your side, man  JUST COMPARE OR IMO, of all of the above, the weaker was Alan. Maybe Zak don't played Wonderwall very well, but thats because he doesn't used the same progression over and over again. Zak plays the same beat aswell, but he just does it basically, Allan added fills when ever he could. Look at this. Nothing fits better with the rythm guitar. Alan had style, Zak slowed down Oasis and made them sound less interesting. |
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Post by mic15372 on Jun 9, 2009 13:05:42 GMT -5
I think the drummer question is just a matter of opinion.
Do you think if Chris were to move on after the stadium gigs he would be talked about as the best drummer Oasis ever had?
I don't think so.
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