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Post by shakermaker1 on Jan 30, 2009 21:15:27 GMT -5
Check this out, it's pro shot footage from Stockholm 28/1/09. www.svd.se/kulturnoje/nyheter/artikel_2389403.svdSounds terrible. Is it just me or does Liam always seem pissed off nowadays when he's singing a song? He seems constantly agitated, cutting words short all the time with loads of aggression and pulling away from the mic etc. Maybe he's pissed off coz he can't sing half as good as he used to be able to... Any thoughts people? |
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Post by Guigs on Jan 31, 2009 0:10:53 GMT -5
I don't know if it's because he's pissed off or frustrated, but more of the same old reasons as always. His voice isn't the same, he can't hold notes and cuts off because he probably could care less.
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Jan 31, 2009 0:40:11 GMT -5
i agree. i can't recall the last time liam actually held an elongated note. whatever, everyone realizes this but no one cares. watching them back live is usually terrible, but actually being there is incredible.
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Post by juaaaaaaaaaaaaaan on Jan 31, 2009 1:46:07 GMT -5
yeah, but can't deny the bastard looks fucking gorgeous.
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Post by jessy111191 on Jan 31, 2009 1:48:59 GMT -5
watching them back live is usually terrible, but actually being there is incredible. That is a great great point. You don't hear it when you're there, or you get used to it. But watching it with good quality is rough. Still happy to have it either way though. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 31, 2009 2:13:55 GMT -5
It's not good, but it's not horrible. Some of the footage I've seen from 2005 is horrid. But we've seen countless times on the tour that while Liam's voice isn't as good as it once was, it's an improvement from 2005 and overall not too bad.
Remember, everyone can have a bad day, off-night too.....
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Post by checkwithmemum on Jan 31, 2009 4:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by mrmojorisen on Jan 31, 2009 8:06:24 GMT -5
When you are there you dont think about is voice as the atmosphere at the gigs is always great.
Its pointless grabbing most bootys these days (On past tours i've grabbed most of them) as liam dont sound the best and only the pro shot/recorded gigs do it for me now.
Dont forget as well on the latest album a lot of it was done on pro tools so liam's vocals are obviously great, If we were ta listen ta him sing the songs from the album stripped down ta the bare bones live i think he would really struggle as his voice has defo changed for the worse.
Liam is suppose ta be at his most fittest health wise now that he keeps himself in trim so that should come through in his work onstage but sadly its not.
The gulps of air he takes inbetween words dosent do him any good at all and he defo gotta sort it in my opinion.
I love the man and the band but i gotta be honest his vocal delivery of late is not good.
P.s. He gotta stop trying ta sing like lennon as well
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Post by eva on Jan 31, 2009 9:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by Shakermaker on Jan 31, 2009 9:27:02 GMT -5
I've been to the gigs in Amsterdam, Liam just sounded not good. The time he sang in Amsterdam on the DBTT tour, he already had troubles, but it went donwards ever since. The fact is, his voice is changed. By doing it himself, and also drugs, alcohol and cigarretes. But that already was like that in the SOTSOG period. The big problem seems touring. His voice can't hold a whole tour anymore. Listening to some of the first gigs of this DOYS tour, his voice seemd ok. But now, after a shitload of gigs, the voice seems kinda dead. If Oasis will contineu doing big tours, the day will come that Liam would not be able to sing at all anymore. Nowadays he only seems to sound really good on albums... That's his voice after a good period of rest, some fitness training, and some producing in the studio .... Should Oasis have to become a studio band ? Just like The Beatles became  Might be a possibility ... More albums, less gigs, better singing by Liam ... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2009 11:46:05 GMT -5
Yeah, they should drop Lyla. He can't sing it at all.
Oasis should absolutely do more studio albums and perhaps do shorter tours instead of massive world tours every three years.
But they're greedy and that's where they get their money from, even though they're destroying their credibility and the goodwill of fans, so it ain't gonna happen.
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Post by trikz on Jan 31, 2009 12:22:31 GMT -5
Yeah thats so bad.. Lyla is always hes weakest point but i just dont understand how he cant hold note AT ALL anymore :S?
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jan 31, 2009 18:12:11 GMT -5
It's not good, but it's not horrible. Some of the footage I've seen from 2005 is horrid. But we've seen countless times on the tour that while Liam's voice isn't as good as it once was, it's an improvement from 2005 and overall not too bad. Is it? To compare with 2005 then you have to judge him on songs he's singing now that he was then and, bar from a couple (Wonderwall being one, which he's singing softer due to the acoustic arrangement), they all sound worse then they did then - especially Lyla, which he just can't handle anymore - and couldn't even at the start of this tour. |
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Post by webm@ster on Jan 31, 2009 18:30:22 GMT -5
It's not good, but it's not horrible. Some of the footage I've seen from 2005 is horrid. But we've seen countless times on the tour that while Liam's voice isn't as good as it once was, it's an improvement from 2005 and overall not too bad. Is it? To compare with 2005 then you have to judge him on songs he's singing now that he was then and, bar from a couple (Wonderwall being one, which he's singing softer due to the acoustic arrangement), they all sound worse then they did then - especially Lyla, which he just can't handle anymore - and couldn't even at the start of this tour. Mr Monobrow , you dare to question our forum's expert ? ;D;) |
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Jan 31, 2009 18:45:33 GMT -5
it is fucking shocking. he's not singing he's yelling. anyone could do that. he seems both pissed and frustrated and i don't blame him.
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Post by brumoscardo on Jan 31, 2009 19:17:34 GMT -5
Liam really nailed in Lille last night. Top form. Slide Away was fucking incredible. Plus he held the notes much longer.
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Post by hogy on Feb 1, 2009 0:20:06 GMT -5
is his voice fucked???
or is it his live singing style that is the problem??
If he were to sing properly would it sound as bad??
your thoughts?
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Post by bathqueen on Feb 1, 2009 4:26:38 GMT -5
The cigs&alco bit is sad...
Liam seems so frustrated trying to pronounce "aggravation"
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Post by Underneath the sky on Feb 1, 2009 5:17:22 GMT -5
is his voice fucked??? or is it his live singing style that is the problem?? If he were to sing properly would it sound as bad?? your thoughts? I think he still sounds amazing on acoustic performances when he can sing softer. Problem is his voice is so weak now so at gigs he's really having to force it, whereas in the 90s he could shout his lungs out. I think it's only now in the last few years that he's actually realised how much he has damaged his voice, which is why this tour he's been trying to take better care of it. |
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Post by fastfuse on Feb 1, 2009 5:40:46 GMT -5
Its sounds to me when he really tries to leather a song it sounds shit, theres a performance of him and Gem doing I'm otta time on you tube somewhere and he sounds brilliant, I went to see them a few months a go and he was terrible. I think if his monitors where turned up he could hear more, how any one that goes to see them says he's sounding good or that the vibe at the gig was more important then I think thats a bit of a kop out to be honest. The band are the best they have ever been live IMO. But Liam needs to approach his singing in a diffrent way.
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Post by ToneBender on Feb 1, 2009 8:39:17 GMT -5
With the improvement in monitoring systems and the bands use of lower wattage amps and the subsequent stage volume dropping Liam should have less issues hearing himself and shouldn't have to shout. It's interesting that as his voice has gotten worse he's shouted more and more on stage. If you go back and watch Live By The Sea, he's not shouting at all. Somewhere along the way he convinced himself that "giving his all" on stage is accomplished by shouting into the mic. While the energy is appreciated and I have no doubt that he'd be ridiculed in the press for "not being into it", his voice would be better served if he took the "energy" down a notch. And, NL4E, he sounded loads better in 2005.
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Post by mrmojorisen on Feb 1, 2009 9:05:05 GMT -5
With the improvement in monitoring systems and the bands use of lower wattage amps and the subsequent stage volume dropping Liam should have less issues hearing himself and shouldn't have to shout. It's interesting that as his voice has gotten worse he's shouted more and more on stage. If you go back and watch Live By The Sea, he's not shouting at all. Somewhere along the way he convinced himself that "giving his all" on stage is accomplished by shouting into the mic. While the energy is appreciated and I have no doubt that he'd be ridiculed in the press for "not being into it", his voice would be better served if he took the "energy" down a notch. And, NL4E, he sounded loads better in 2005. So true. It also seems since he been using the ear monitors his voice has changed. He is always having a go at the sound man controlling his monitors as well. i think his delivery stlye has changed and if he would start doing some soundchecks that may help him get back to basics (Not straining) |
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Post by fastfuse on Feb 1, 2009 10:04:52 GMT -5
When I last saw them he spent all night going over to the desk next to the stage and moaning. I just want him to go back to the way he was. People seem to think his voice is fucked, I dont think its because its fucked hes just balling all the time.....But it sounds bad. I'm off to Manchester to seem them in the summer....more excited about Kasabian at the momment if im being honest!!!! Sorry Liam Lovers  |
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Post by colin231 on Feb 1, 2009 15:27:11 GMT -5
Remember, as recently diagnosed, he has that shit on his vocal chords which explains EVERYTHING we have been debating for years now. The only question is does he risk doing the surgery which works for some (Elton John/Bonnie Tyler etc) or will take away his singing voice permanently ( Julie Andrews)
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Post by fastfuse on Feb 1, 2009 15:42:03 GMT -5
Right I have a funny feeling that the "shit" is infact a mixture of coke, booze, late nights and cigarettes....I like my rock n roll stars to be a bit "Nutty" but not so they sound shite. I like Liam I dont like Pete Docherty!!!!
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