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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 13:37:26 GMT -5

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Post by markantro on Jan 7, 2009 13:37:26 GMT -5

NOEL: "YOU PICK UP A GUITAR, RIP A FEW PEOPLE'S TUNES OFF, SWAP THEM AROUND A BIT, GET YOUR BROTHER IN THE BAND, PUNCH HIS HEAD IN EVERY NOW AND AGAIN, AND IT SELLS"

Intro, lyrics, riffs, outros etc. some less obvious than others. all there if you listen carefully. noel has stated many times he is suprised he's not been sued more and openly admits to using other peoples stuff.

(As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes In Hell
The Beatles - Dear Prudence - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QF-UlTE_mHs

All Around The World
The Beatles, Hey Jude - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YXG83p2nkHw

Acquiesce
Dusty Springfield I Only Want To Be With You - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MczZzJ-jy5c

Bag It Up
The Pretty Things - Baron Saturday -

But What If...
The Beatles - Here Comes The Sun -

Better Let You Know
Cartouche - Feel The Groove - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j3yO6ZSLkNw

Better Man
The Stone Roses - Daybreak -

Champagne Supernova
Led Zeppelin, Bring It on Home - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2aWR9KUDJn4

Cigarettes And Alcohol
T-Rex Bang A Gong - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5oGcfwKN5jY

Cloudburst
Stone Roses - Standing Here - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kHYNWwR5kdo
Led Zeppelin - Bring it on home - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MVKdAPwqUMM

Columbia
Axe Corner - Tortuga - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqBtTGLWow

Dont Go Away - profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=43240155 - track called feel the pain - lyrics don't go away / say what you say / forever and a day

U2 One - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lWdG8NoFXY0

Dont Look Back In Anger
John Lennon Imagine -

Fade Away
Wham! ~ Freedom - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MHUZXGcOtm4

Falling Down
The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y1u489DqbMQ

Force Of Nature
Iggy Pop - Nightclubbing - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CunBRxj1bLY

Fuckin' In The Bushes
Spencer Davis Group - I'm a Man - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AzN0mMx-sJg

Little Miss Lover - Jimi Hendrix Experience - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Eeae7wdzg

Came about by accident, doing a remix for UNKLE - finished the remix early. Found drum loop off Jimi Hendrix record - looped it up and wrote music over it. Sampled quotes and put it in track as a joke - never intended to use it, but people they played it went "mental" over it. Had to take Hendrix drum loop out as Hendrix estate changed hands and they blocked all uses of samples. Got Alan White to recreate loop. Got in backing singers, tarted it up a bit. Done. (Noel - Wheeler End interview #2 - 99)

Gas Panic
Led Zeppelin When the Levee Breaks - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uL7Dm9VpbDg

Get Off Your High Horse Lady
Tommy Tucker - High Heel Sneakers - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l8RVamiwAqU

Go Let It Out
I Walk on Gilded Splinters - Johnny Jenkins - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cpxJDgBPc
The Heptones - Book Of Rules - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lpeRE9E0zOw
The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywg-PdeGVL0

Half The World Away
Burt Bacharach - This Guy's In Love With You - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fUq0St_1X0s
Inspired by chords from This Guy's In Love With You. Dave Bachelor showed Noel how to play it on guirar.

Noel: "It sounds exactly the same. I'm surprised he hasn't sued me yet."

Headshrinker
The Faces- Stay With Me - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-L_AuuaxI

Hello
Gary Glitter - Hello Hello - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-VtHWSsTGeQ
Credit awared after legal action

Hindu Times
Stereophonics - Same Size Feet - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NwUzBueAsN4

Hindu Times Demo
Pure Morning- Placebo - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQmAP9Poo4

Hung In a Bad Place
Iggy Pop - No Fun - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hmI9iCiH-SE

I Can See a Liar
The Clash - Should I Stay Or Should I Go - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ

Let there be love
Mr. Bungle - Shine a Light -

Little By Little
Pink Floyd - Breathe - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5VGmRKhH82A&feature=related

Live Forever
The Rolling Stones - Shine a Light -

Eric Clapton, Wonderful Tonight - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nHC0mX-Er_E

Lord Dont Slow Me Down
TSOOL - Confrontation camp - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-MZlsJmqg

Lyla
Rolling Stones, Street Fighting Man - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJVS5n6t5I

Married With Children
Nirvana- Lithium - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sUUHNf0S5cA

Master Plan
Spirit - Taurus - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTFdlbup24

Meaning of Soul
Creedence Clearwater Revival: Proud Mary - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XfyEpmQM7bw

Morning Glory
R.E.M.-The One I Love -

Mucky Fingers
Velvet Underground - I´m Waiting For The Man - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hugY9CwhfzE

My Big Mouth
Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbm-iDWZMQM

Part of the Queue
Golden Brown, The Stranglers - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHBUGvAUMo

Probably All In The Mind
Beatles - Rain - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLJMSbEnn0
The Stone Roses - Waterfall - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dQUxCQxu9og

Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
The Doors, Roadhouse Blues - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HCapv8UcrcY

Roll With It
Status Quo - Down down 1975 -

Round are Way
Blues Brothers - Everybody Needs Somebody -

Shakermaker
New Seekers, I'd like To Teach the World to Sing - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnms04P78sQ
Credit awared after legal action
The Beatles, Flying - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lqs83A_wN-Y

Shes Electric
The Kinks - Wonder Boy - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EUSvjMm9-JA
The Beatles - With a little help from my friends - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=poUoCggQZd0
You and me TV Show -
The Beatles - While My Guitar Gently Weeps -

Shout It Out Loud
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tkJNyQfAprY

Sitting Here In Silence (On My Own)
Bob Dylan, Blowing In The Wind - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ced8o50G9kg

Song Bird Demo
The Beatles - I Should Have Known Better - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KiRrfs089ss

Stand By Me
Mott the Hoople: All the Young dudes - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a52Of-tIGpA

Step Out
Stevie Wonder - Uptight - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbyOLzEyfk
Thin Lizzy - Rosalie - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j1lPuWg-Rpg
Credit awared to both after legal action

Stop The Clocks
The La's - Looking Glass -

Supersonic
George Harrison - My sweet lord - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fQkylt8PX5g

Swmap Song
Canned Heat - On The Road Again - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OrljWGIHB7c

Take Me
ENNIO MORRICONE -Svolta Definitiva - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m_dr8dE3zb4

Take Me Away
bob dylan - simple twist of fate -

Thank You For The Good Times
David bowie - Heroes -

The Girl In The Dirty Shirt
Neil Young,Heart Of Stone - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KPxVuOomEyI

The Importance Of Being Idle
The La's - Clean Prophet - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3WVOC6Bbj5g

The Turning
CLIFF RICHARD - Devil Woman - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yosCYE4vwlY

Waiting For The Rapture
The Doors - Five To One - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zZls5ZH5ytA

Whatever
Neil Innes - How Sweet to be an Idiot - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ9EWcaS7II
Credit awared after legal action

Who Feels Love
Strawberryfire by The Apples in Stereo - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmF0gaTT2M

Wonderwall
The Cure - Homesick - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nxhUEbpQw

found this, breaks the songs down for you

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KX1juc7S7p4

www.upinthesite.com/articles.asp?id=1087 (click the track name and a mp3 file will play)

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The Unknown Legend RKid Posts: 25	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 13:54:15 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by The Unknown Legend on Jan 7, 2009 13:54:15 GMT -5 get a job
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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 14:47:33 GMT -5

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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jan 7, 2009 14:47:33 GMT -5

How dare you!!!!!!

Dont you know they are the greatest band ever ever ever!!! Better than the Beatles!!!11!!!

You're just a h8r!!!11!!

Everyone knows it was T-Rex stole the rift from Cigarettes and Alcohol anyway.

(This thread should be bookmarked and posted everytime some numpty starts a "If you don't think they're the greatest ever then fuck off" thread. I.e. every week)

makafri Oasis Roadie Posts: 478	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 15:08:53 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by makafri on Jan 7, 2009 15:08:53 GMT -5 who cares noel still a genius
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sloasis Oasis Roadie Posts: 412	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 15:21:17 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by sloasis on Jan 7, 2009 15:21:17 GMT -5 Some of them were interesting, some , I just couldnt see the similarity.
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photogirl Oasis Groupie True perfection has to be imperfect Posts: 822	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 16:12:04 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by photogirl on Jan 7, 2009 16:12:04 GMT -5 The Wonderwall one is COMPLETELY off...sounds nothing like it, sorry.
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baresolid Oasis Roadie Posts: 407	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 17:22:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by baresolid on Jan 7, 2009 17:22:21 GMT -5 I don't get the Live Forever one, the Wonderwall one, The Turning, however, Waiting for the Rapture and Columbia seem very obvious, as does the Supersonic-My Sweet Lord connection...
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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 18:38:57 GMT -5

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Post by 12oasis34 on Jan 7, 2009 18:38:57 GMT -5

Hmm.. I'm not having most of them. Hardly any of those are close enough to be rip offs.

By the way, just thought I'd add:

Hello was credited "Gallagher/Gary Glitter/Mike Leander."
Step Out was credited "Gallagher/Wonder/Cosby/Moy."
Neil Innes was also credited for "Whatever."
Book of Rules rips off those same lyrics from R. L. Sharpe's poem "A Bag of Tools."
George Harrison was sued for 'borrowing' My Sweet Lord from someone else.

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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 19:07:02 GMT -5

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Post by blaah on Jan 7, 2009 19:07:02 GMT -5

I think "ripping off" or that unconcioulsy borrowing without noticing is not a bad thing at all in noel´s case. I think it´s part of the genius of it and the genius that noel represents - he´s kinda like hip-hop dj and he´s sampling those bits and pieces (unconsciously, paying a homage kinda-way). Welcome to the 90´s. I thought that this minor sampling-aspect always was a part of the oasis-mystique and brand anyways, and that´s actually cool.

I don´t think this is "ripp-off" in a conscious-way and certainly i don´t think it in a negative way or that they are stealing and don´t deserve to be up there with their version of music. (And the so-called "ripp-offs" are not that major either even if you want to think them from a negative perspective.)

Jan 7, 2009 18:38:57 GMT -5 12oasis34 said:

Hardly any of those are close enough to be rip offs.

while the same time agreed with this. thank you very much.

And most of those are the kind that you only here the similarities if someone told you there was and you were intentionally looking to hear them, and even then it would only be so little bit that it´s ridiculous to say it´s a rip-off or hardly an inspiration.

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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 19:26:41 GMT -5

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Post by Pilkoids on Jan 7, 2009 19:26:41 GMT -5

Nice compilation, I was curious too since people always mention these songs. Some of them I really REALLY cannot find the similarity though, no matter how hard I tried.

And people, don't get so defensive. :/

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Clint Oasis Manager Posts: 1,474	where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Clint on Jan 7, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5 Noel has said that Shakermaker was taken from Flying by the Beatles. I think he's lying though
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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 21:06:31 GMT -5

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Jan 7, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5 Clint said:

Noel has said that Shakermaker was taken from Flying by the Beatles.

I think he's lying though

it definitely is from that 1970s coke commercial. it's almost the exact same song.

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Post by Guigs on Jan 7, 2009 22:24:07 GMT -5

that is a great list you put together. I've bookmarked that one for future reference. Some of them are pretty obvious but it's still fun to think about the ones that don't really match.

LOL @ those getting upset over bringing this up ;D

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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 22:29:12 GMT -5

While a few a blatantly obvious, most of those are stretches holding only a few bits of the melody or riff in common. I don't think it's fair to count Fuckin' In The Bushes and Go Let It Out though, considering drum looping is such a common practice.

And, I have to say, never heard the similarity between No Fun and Hung In A Bad Place! Best place to rip off a riff if any, nice one Gem!

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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 7, 2009 23:27:08 GMT -5

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Jan 7, 2009 21:06:31 GMT -5 AbbeyR0ad said:

Jan 7, 2009 19:50:37 GMT -5 Clint said:

Noel has said that Shakermaker was taken from Flying by the Beatles.

I think he's lying though

it definitely is from that 1970s coke commercial. it's almost the exact same song.

Especially considering they used to sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing In perfect harmony I'd like to buy the world a Coke And keep it company..." I'd say you would be correct.

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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 8, 2009 11:58:33 GMT -5

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Post by petedaley on Jan 8, 2009 11:58:33 GMT -5

I've posted this a few times before, but it's appropriate to the topic. The Real People's song "Feel the Pain" (released on Marshmellow Lane in '92) contains the chorus "Don't go away / say that you'll stay / forever and a day."

There's no Youtube link and can't post the song, obviously, so if you're interested anyway, pm me, I guess. It's a great song to have anyway!

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where noel gets his inspiration (borrows from) Jan 8, 2009 17:27:34 GMT -5

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Post by BubblyBubbles on Jan 8, 2009 17:27:34 GMT -5

Cool list. I always heard talk about how Oasis uses other people's material, but I haven't heard most of these songs until now.

Jan 7, 2009 23:27:08 GMT -5 12oasis34 said:

Jan 7, 2009 21:06:31 GMT -5 AbbeyR0ad said:

it definitely is from that 1970s coke commercial. it's almost the exact same song.

Especially considering they used to sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing In perfect harmony I'd like to buy the world a Coke And keep it company..." I'd say you would be correct.

I bought a snow globe this year that plays that song. My little brother who wasn't aware of the Coke-Oasis fiasco came in one day and asked me how I found a snow globe that plays "Shakermaker". He thought Coke ripped off Oasis ;D

Take the time to make some sense of what you want to say, and cast your words away upon the waves.

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Post by photogirl on Jan 9, 2009 2:24:53 GMT -5

LOL - for the record I'm not offended at all. Noel and Oasis have given me years of amazing music to listen to - I don't give a shi*t where it came from! I just honestly don't hear any comparison between Wonderwall and that Cure song.

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