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Post by listenup201 on Dec 12, 2008 16:03:33 GMT -5
So the Oakland gig was attended by 6000 or so. The Minneapolis gig drew 5143 as noted in the review. Now its worth noting that the Target Center probably holds 12K to 14K for a concert (people of the greater Minnesota area feel free to verify). Now Boston does NOT get a show on this leg and they could probably fill the arena and get 12K to 14K in for a show. My question is this….how did the promoter or the manager miss this and not get a Boston gig on the board. I’m not even from Boston and this seems like a massive error. Why book them in Bloomfield Co (of wherever that show took place) and skip a MAJOR market like Boston. Opportunity missed and that is a shame. Thankfully LA, Vegas and Philly lived up (yes we note the future tense for Philly) MSG is the be all end all and the building will be jammed for what will prove to be the social event of the season. Forget your office holiday party it all goes down next Wednesday night. Go get a tix from stub hub now. MSG = win.
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Post by njoasisnyc on Dec 12, 2008 16:04:47 GMT -5
boston = nyc. you need to sell out msg.. no boston show helps.
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Post by madben on Dec 12, 2008 19:46:29 GMT -5
My theory on Boston is that it was planned, but the re-scheduled London, OT show knocked it off the schedule.
I'm ok with them playing Denver and Minneapolis, but they chose shitty venues.
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Post by bluecorn on Dec 12, 2008 21:51:45 GMT -5
yes, incredibly shitty venues. i bet they sell nachos at all of them. there are plenty of way more appropriately-sized, muchmuchmuchmuchmuch better places to play in whatever city they might like to play in. i fail to understand how it is more fun to play at arenas with shitty sound than theatres with several-to-many thousand seats with good sound and no nachos.
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Post by Guigs on Dec 12, 2008 23:38:00 GMT -5
I think they over estimated the demand for tickets. If they went to smaller venues they could have put on a better show and had a better time with a packed venue.
This also reminds me of some guy on this board that was complaining earlier in the year about how they had all those dates in Canada... turns out they had a better time selling tickets in canada than they did in most of the places in the US (not counting the big cities).
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Post by manonthemoon748 on Dec 13, 2008 8:14:49 GMT -5
I agree. I think Oasis needs to embrace it's cult status in America. It's a very big cult band, but they aren't going to be playing Enormodomes in Wisconsin anytime soon.
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 13, 2008 9:12:58 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain you'll see a second leg of the tour. They're passing up a lot of markets right now. You'll see them hit Boston/NYC/Philly again next year. I'm sure they anticipated a bigger push from Warner Bros and had hoped to do more press at the tail end of the last leg but that got derailed with Noel's attack. And finally, bad economy = bad ticket sales.
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Post by petedaley on Dec 13, 2008 10:05:28 GMT -5
The outdoor Boston venue (the Tweeter Center, which is actually in Mansfield) holds 20k, and it was to capacity when I saw them there in 2005. It's definitely a huge fan base.
I'm forced to go to New York this year ... which isn't a bad thing!
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Post by BubblyBubbles on Dec 13, 2008 11:07:59 GMT -5
And finally, bad economy = bad ticket sales. And ticket prices are twice as high this time! On the DBTT tour I went to two gigs, paid $30 for one and $45 for another. One of them was at an amphitheater and the other at a small theater. This year I'm seeing them at the Palace Arena up in Auburn Hills and tickets cost $80 when you add in the Ticketmaster "convenience" charge. It's no surprise they can't sell out gigs with ticket prices that high.  I mean, last tour I saw TWO gigs for less than what I'm paying to go to this one. |
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Post by damonabnormal on Dec 14, 2008 20:12:02 GMT -5
Management could not have foreseen the massive downturn in the worlds economy when they booked these venues but why they have not switched to smaller venues in some markets is beyond me. If their is a 2nd leg I hope they place someplace like Roseland Ballroom in NYC, that would be spectacular. They could play 2 shows there and 2 shows in Philly at Tower Theatre.
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Post by noelliam77 on Dec 14, 2008 21:02:20 GMT -5
I don't think it is the economy but rather what happens in the life cycle of a band. If you look at iconic acts like the who, ac/dc, eagles, stones or whomever, they draw more on thier legacy than the strength of the latest records. All of those acts toured alot in the US and built a long lasting fan base.
We all know what happened with oasis and the US market in the early succesful days and they blew the chance to build a huge fan base, the kind that will continue to show up in droves. These poor ticket sales are the repercussions of blowing off the media (and it was thier right to do so), thier careers and image over here in the US. Oasis can't build fanbase as an aging band and the new label thinks they can one-up sony and you have them booking venues they shouldn't.
I agree with the above poster, they should book smaller venues for a better concert experience. At least in the US
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Post by daysoasis on Dec 14, 2008 21:27:55 GMT -5
i really think its the economy......if you recall in 05 ,they sold more tickets. in Denver,for example...if they did'nt sellout redrocks....they filled it well...plus they played alot more venues.now...if only they did'nt self destruct in the mid 90's....there is no doubt they would of build a bigger fanbase...and concert ticket sales..would'nt be much of a concern ,for they woulda had the same devotion as you and i....instead coldplay and nickel back swept them up......sad,but true.
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Post by jlzoasis on Dec 15, 2008 1:07:18 GMT -5
Personally from the two gigs i have been too..yea they weren't sold out but I think the fans really meant it...
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Post by ournoel55 on Dec 15, 2008 4:16:59 GMT -5
$100 for Vegas was pricey. I'm glad that Oasis isn't insanely popular. Those of us at the gigs, as someone said...we mean it. I thought the venues were definitely too large...Denver and Detroit...and i'm guessing they won't come back to the states for any more touring.
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 15, 2008 7:37:32 GMT -5
They've missed a ton of markets they usually hit. They'll come back to smaller venues and do another tour next spring/summer. How are they going to skip Boston? Their largest venue on their last tour was Boston. MSG is officially sold out by the way. I haven't been able to find 2 tickets together in 2 weeks. That's sold out so far as I count it...
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Post by ijwthstd on Dec 15, 2008 15:35:39 GMT -5
They've missed a ton of markets they usually hit. They'll come back to smaller venues and do another tour next spring/summer. How are they going to skip Boston? Their largest venue on their last tour was Boston. MSG is officially sold out by the way. I haven't been able to find 2 tickets together in 2 weeks. That's sold out so far as I count it... It's looking like arenas with Weezer (also averaging 5-7,000 currently) And this article references the Oasis Broomfield gig www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/12/brown-its-even-tough-for-rock-stars/ |
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Post by jilliam on Dec 16, 2008 19:13:37 GMT -5
Theyre coming back in Spring and touring with Weezer. Yes, they have a long time following here in the states that are willing to go to the shows, however the bad economy does have its hand in the bad ticket sales. Im sure Im not the only one who would of loved to $pend more ca$h and go see the lads in other neighboring cities. But, fuck its the holidays, $100 for the L.A. gig, $117 for Vegas and thats just the tix, what about all the other junk that goes with going to the shows? it all adds up and Americans just dont have the loot to attend multiple gigs like we have in the past.
Come spring if they come close to L.A. I'll attend maybe two more gigs, even if it is with Weezer.
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Post by Frodis on Dec 16, 2008 19:33:13 GMT -5
Theyre coming back in Spring and touring with Weezer. Yes, they have a long time following here in the states that are willing to go to the shows, however the bad economy does have its hand in the bad ticket sales. Im sure Im not the only one who would of loved to $pend more ca$h and go see the lads in other neighboring cities. But, fuck its the holidays, $100 for the L.A. gig, $117 for Vegas and thats just the tix, what about all the other junk that goes with going to the shows? it all adds up and Americans just dont have the loot to attend multiple gigs like we have in the past. Come spring if they come close to L.A. I'll attend maybe two more gigs, even if it is with Weezer. The weezer thing hasn't really been confirmed outside of Rivers just saying that they were thinking about it. I'm pretty sure it's just talk, atm. and tbh, I hope they don't tour with Weezer because it will be a bitch to get tickets if they do end up playing smaller venues in May.  |
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Post by Guigs on Dec 16, 2008 23:26:14 GMT -5
They've missed a ton of markets they usually hit. They'll come back to smaller venues and do another tour next spring/summer. How are they going to skip Boston? Their largest venue on their last tour was Boston. MSG is officially sold out by the way. I haven't been able to find 2 tickets together in 2 weeks. That's sold out so far as I count it... You r right about missing some markets and I think they will swing back for a second leg like they did last tour. I think they will hit Toronto again because that's always a guaranteed sell out for them so it's odd they didn't stop by now that they're already here. |
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Post by ijwthstd on Dec 17, 2008 12:19:54 GMT -5
If they tour with Weezer it will be arenas and sheds.
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Post by vespa on Dec 17, 2008 12:31:20 GMT -5
its a bad time all round for concerts in america even the major players over there arent elling out gigs from what ive heard,if ticket sales have been that ba di dont think they would play the gig,ive a feeling that as people have pointed oout at the shows that havent been at full capacity the weather has been terrible but also moneywise people arent good,i also think that theyve released this record at the wrong time of year an also put the tour tickets on sale at the wrongtime,but its not like the demand wasnt there for this tour ,last time they played bigger places an played to nearly 200 000 people,so the interest is there but the current climmate is telling on people
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Post by ToneBender on Dec 17, 2008 12:55:48 GMT -5
I was at the Neil Young show last night at the Garden and I'd say it was about 80% full. Granted he had just played the night before as well but with $250 tickets for most of the lower half of the arena it's no wonder it wasn't full.
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Post by ournoel55 on Dec 17, 2008 13:10:20 GMT -5
they've got europe after the new year, and then japan...and of course, the monster summer gigs. i just dont' see them coming back to the states for another swing. i think they're counting the canadian gigs as they first leg, and this is the second and final leg.
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Post by Frodis on Dec 17, 2008 13:31:01 GMT -5
they've got europe after the new year, and then japan...and of course, the monster summer gigs. i just dont' see them coming back to the states for another swing. i think they're counting the canadian gigs as they first leg, and this is the second and final leg. They are. They said they'll be be coming back through the states in May, so there ya go.. |
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Post by ijwthstd on Dec 17, 2008 14:51:16 GMT -5
There's 2 months off in between Japan and England, plenty of room for a 4-6 week swing, though I can also see promotors balking at paying for any packages right now.
And if it's with Weezer, it would probably be a co-headline thing like the 2001 tour with the Black Crowes so you are looking at shorter sets and possibly even more expensive tickets.
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I mean, last tour I saw TWO gigs for less than what I'm paying to go to this one. 
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