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Post by Protector of reality on Nov 2, 2008 10:37:15 GMT -5
like even maybe live...perhaps the very beginning slide away or maybe a riff or something....is there any videos where he doesnt hit more than 3 strings..... ......he intrigues me how he stayed in such a big band and did the job that any 13 yr old guitar student could have probably even improved on....
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Post by error on Nov 2, 2008 11:00:33 GMT -5
Eventually I thought he could only play barre chords but I saw him playing open chords in some video...
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Post by Oasis39 on Nov 2, 2008 11:07:12 GMT -5
like even maybe live...perhaps the very beginning slide away or maybe a riff or something....is there any videos where he doesnt hit more than 3 strings..... ...... he intrigues me how he stayed in such a big band and did the job that any 13 yr old guitar student could have probably even improved on.... And would you believe that there are morons on this board that would still rather have Bonehead in Oasis than Gem
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Nov 2, 2008 11:08:27 GMT -5
isnt it on the DM dvd where he plays the main riff on up in the sky? yeah apart from playing the chords his main job was to look like an average geezer from the north
well an honourary mention goes out for playing mellotron on whatever + live forever acoustic on MTV in 1994..i'm sure someone will find the youtube link
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 11:21:31 GMT -5
Bonehead's huge chords and Guigsy's root notes created the wall of sound that Noel used to scribble melodies and licks on top off. They were a major part of the Oasis live sound that blew minds 1994-1998. If you disagree with the above paragraph, you know FUCK ALL about Oasis. That was before Oasis became a pale imitation of itself. Before Noel forgot how to write good songs, and before Liam changed his name to Kermit. Bonehead and Guigsy are legends and always will be. Andy and Gem are Noel's little Yes Men who clock in before they go on stage.
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Nov 2, 2008 11:23:38 GMT -5
No one would argue that Andy & Gem are better guitarists, but people's love for Bonehead & Guigsy is more than just nostalgia I think.
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Post by caimanque on Nov 2, 2008 11:55:33 GMT -5
No one would argue that Andy & Gem are better guitarists, but people's love for Bonehead & Guigsy is more than just nostalgia I think. inmature I guess.
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Post by globe on Nov 2, 2008 12:04:14 GMT -5
And would you believe that there are morons on this board that would still rather have Bonehead in Oasis than Gem Don't think you should be calling anybody a moron, stones, glass houses and all that. Anway, this man... Bonehead's huge chords and Guigsy's root notes created the wall of sound that Noel used to scribble melodies and licks on top off. They were a major part of the Oasis live sound that blew minds 1994-1998. If you disagree with the above paragraph, you know FUCK ALL about Oasis. That was before Oasis became a pale imitation of itself. Before Noel forgot how to write good songs, and before Liam changed his name to Kermit. Bonehead and Guigsy are legends and always will be. Andy and Gem are Noel's little Yes Men who clock in before they go on stage. ...speaks the truth.
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Post by vespa on Nov 2, 2008 12:10:58 GMT -5
well i actually supported bonehead in london last night an i can honestly say hes a good guitarist,played like gem does ,open chords an using a capo.hes infact a very adequate guitarist who gave oasis a massive sound live,i still think they miss that sound live now,the guitars sound too clean these days.bonehead did what he was told to play in the band just as guigsy did
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Post by Protector of reality on Nov 2, 2008 13:15:51 GMT -5
Bonehead's huge chords and Guigsy's root notes created the wall of sound that Noel used to scribble melodies and licks on top off. They were a major part of the Oasis live sound that blew minds 1994-1998. If you disagree with the above paragraph, you know FUCK ALL about Oasis. That was before Oasis became a pale imitation of itself. Before Noel forgot how to write good songs, and before Liam changed his name to Kermit. Bonehead and Guigsy are legends and always will be. Andy and Gem are Noel's little Yes Men who clock in before they go on stage. yea i actually could not agree more....infact if I ever start a band which I hope to do i would have my songs like that.....basic chords and base...Oasis reborn
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Post by bandontherun on Nov 2, 2008 13:45:38 GMT -5
What???Come on, don't talk bullshit,man!!!Open cords and using a capo doesen't mean you are a good guitar player.Can he play the solo on Slide away???I don't think so!!!!
Gem and Andy are very good musicians and top lads,....its the new Oasis,man!!!!
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Post by ugottahavefun on Nov 2, 2008 13:53:45 GMT -5
Bonehead is a legend, if only for his nickname. Guigsy is just the man, could've played for city, loved his cricket, co-wrote a book on the Great Robin Friday.
Archer and Bell while likeable enough chaps just are not Oasis, it aint in their blood.
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Post by makafri on Nov 2, 2008 14:02:57 GMT -5
gem andy, bonehead y guigsy... all legends...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 14:15:39 GMT -5
I'll take fucking Andy and Gem any day over the other two. If Noel cant be bothered to play anything more then the bare essentials, then he should at least let fucking Gem rip it. Wasted talent for both of them on most tunes.
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Post by Oasis39 on Nov 2, 2008 14:17:33 GMT -5
Andy and Gem > Bonehead and Guigsy
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Post by 005 on Nov 2, 2008 14:27:16 GMT -5
Bonehead is more like a 'session' guitarist than anything else
I've personally have never rated him & never will.
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Post by ogradym on Nov 2, 2008 14:44:47 GMT -5
Bonehead's huge chords and Guigsy's root notes created the wall of sound that Noel used to scribble melodies and licks on top off. They were a major part of the Oasis live sound that blew minds 1994-1998. If you disagree with the above paragraph, you know FUCK ALL about Oasis. That was before Oasis became a pale imitation of itself. Before Noel forgot how to write good songs, and before Liam changed his name to Kermit. Bonehead and Guigsy are legends and always will be. Andy and Gem are Noel's little Yes Men who clock in before they go on stage. I have to disagree that one guitar playing a bar chord while the bass player playing the root of the chord (how novel!?) creates a "wall of sound" by any definition. You should be careful how you use that phrase, because it really refers to a general technique pioneered by Phil Spector in the 70's in such great albums as Born to Run, in which you have about 20 different tracks, often all different instruments, layered on top of one another. One guitar and a poor bass player (um, name one guigs bass line that touched the ingenuity of any McCartney line) does not a wall of sound make. Guigs and Bonehead were always easily replacable musically, but some of you fans on here feel a kindred spirit with them because they like to get drunk like you do. Wow. big deal. As far as Gem and Andy being yes men, well that's obviously not the case. Both have led successful groups on there own. And what they've brought to the band in their songwriting was a well needed breath of fresh air. You love Noel and Oasis circa 94-98? Say hello to Andy's tune, "thank you for the good times" one of the last upbeat, youthful, positive oasis tunes. Have you heard the solo on Probably all in the mind? Gem plays with a sense of fluidity and tastefulness that Noel is simply not capable of. This is why you see Gem soloing on DLBIA on the acoustic sets instead of Noel. Luckily, Noel, unlike you, understands the strengths and weaknesses of himself, gem and all the band members, and the music has become better for it.
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Post by Soldier Ron on Nov 2, 2008 15:08:35 GMT -5
The Heathen Chemistry CD booklet actually credits Johnny Marr with that guitar solo.
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Post by whothefoock on Nov 2, 2008 15:42:43 GMT -5
Bonehead's guitar playing is simple but he is one of the most consistent rhythm guitar players that is out there. Without him and Guigs you don't have Oasis. There inabilities as well as Noel's, created in the early days this raw full rocky/punky sound that made them unique and loved by so many. You can't argue against it. I love Gem's playing and it certainly creates a more professional sound but there was something about that rawness of early Oasis that has some how been taken away by Guigs and Boneheads absence. To me Gem is more of a studio musician than Bonehead.
P.S. I dare any guitar player on this board to play barre chords for a full 1 1/2hrs without a break.
P.P.S The fucking man has a song named after him, END OF! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 15:54:27 GMT -5
Thank You For The Good Times is a pretty good B-side.
I wouldn't call Heavy Stereo successful though in all honesty. I'd call them "shit".
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Post by helmet959 on Nov 2, 2008 16:40:32 GMT -5
bonehead played the piano bits in Underneath the Sky, and the main riff of Up In The Sky live he would also switch guitars on stage (rarely ) ohterwise, he was just a great rhythm guitarist, he was never going to challenge noel to be a better guitarist, at the time he could not have filled in for Noel live noel's learned a lot from Gem, have you watched any clips from the acoustic tour in 2006? noel and bonehead combined could not even come close to that level of brilliance also find youtube clips of the shows in 2000 without Noel.. Gem nailed all of Noel's guitar bits and he was brand new to the band at the time Gem is currently very important to Oasis, the band
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Post by helmet959 on Nov 2, 2008 16:46:35 GMT -5
not to mention the fact that FINALLY oasis can play champagne supernova as it was recorded
Bonehead could not handle the soft bits, listen to the old bootlegs, they sounded like a good cover band doing Champagne Supernova, the intricacies of that song were bludgeoned live by Oasis part 1, they simply couldnt pull it off
the current tour version is the best version oasis has ever done (mind you this has nothing do with Liams voice, which is a different conversation)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 17:00:47 GMT -5
Can't say there was ever anything wrong with Champagne Supernova life, it was always pretty immense.
They're a good Oasis cover band NOW, if anything!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 17:13:48 GMT -5
Thank You For The Good Times is a pretty good B-side. I wouldn't call Heavy Stereo successful though in all honesty. I'd call them "shit". Much better then the band Bonehead fronted before or after Oasis. Oh...
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Post by LuNi9 on Nov 2, 2008 17:22:49 GMT -5
Bbefore Liam changed his name to Kermit. LOL i genuinely lol'd K+ to you
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