And that had everything to do with Liam and Noel, mostly Noel. Without him, Oasis would probably be even less popular then Heavy Stereo and Hurricane #1, unless Bonehead has been hiding an absolutely mind blowing tune for the past decade and a half.

Unless the inspiration for all of those tunes were Bonehead and Guigsy, I doubt we would of lost much if they left and were replaces by equally incompetent members. The only wild card are the drummers who, aside from Tony, are/were all good in their own way.

Oasis Mk.1: Noel, Liam, and those other dudes.
Oasis Mk.2: Noel, Liam, and those other dudes who write some good tunes and play well.

And man, Tony McCarrol. Don't we all miss him? I mean, they did record one of their best, if not their best album, with him!

Fuck it. I'm off to have a wank over Be Here Now, happy in the knowledge that I'm right.

See ya!

others have pointed it out, but here's some video of ol' boney doing the intro riff of up in the sky:

McCartney didnt at all play bass like a guitar. Paul branched out from root notes and made fantastic,trippy bass lines that are still relevant today. His bass lines were the driving force to alot of Beatle tunes. I wouldnt say he played the bass like a guitar, but he made playing the bass look cool

Yeah, Oasis were a "better band" in any capacity with Bonehead and Guigsy than Gem and Andy.
Give me a break- and I'm the fucking Easter bunny too.

You must have had a pretty boring last 10 years.

Any downturn - as you perceive it - cannot be traced to an absence of Bonehead and Guigsy! Their leaving didn't make Noel's songwriting or Liam's voice go downhill (you can argue they both have, but the two things are entirely unrelated).

It was put best above:



Having two better musicians in the band isn't a detriment. Bonehad and Guigs are known as "the luckiest men in rock" because they were in the right place at the right time, when Liam and Noel were at their peak. Their absence means fuck all.

And I've been a fan since '94, so your Johnny-come-lately theory doesn't work, either.

By the way, Spector's wall of sound technique isn't AT ALL something born in 70s, nly the term, if I remember correctly, began to be used in mid 70s. It's all in 60s (Spector was already known for it when he produced Let It Be in 1970).
But I agree that this isn't something related with the players, but more with production choices (orchestra, at the time; but also echo chambers ecc.) and mixing.

Gem and Andy fucking trounce Bonehead and Guigsy. People seem to enjoy bashing Andy on Oasis forums but he's probably much better at guitar, bass and keyboards than you are, as is Gem. They both write good songs and are right for the band, hence why they've been in it for 9 years. Without Gem most of Liam's tunes wouldn't be as good, and I can't imagine Bonehead playing lead on Noel's semi-acoustic tour.

Obviously Bonehead and Guigs were there during the best albums. No shit. But why were those albums great? Not for the barre chords or root note bass lines, all of which Noel could have played himself. In fact, Bonehead was just as good at bass as Guigs. Those albums were great because of the songs, which Noel wrote. Then there's the vocals, which Liam sang, apart from the odd Noel sung song, and then there's the feel, which I suppose the whole band contributed to.

Bonehead is actually a reasonably talented musician. He can play guitar, bass and keyboards perfectly competently, but compared to Gem he's shit. Andy is obviously better at bass than Guigs, and his first instrument is guitar. And when did Bonehead and Guigsy write decent songs for Oasis, or even outside of Oasis?

I like the old guys, and they served their purpous at the time, but Gem and Andy are obviously better than them. If Liam's voice was still like it was back in the day, and Noel still wrote as many amazing songs, you wouldn't give a fuck about Bonehead and Guigs going missing. Don't moan about those two.

And John Entwistle is the greatest bassist of all time. No contest.

Alright, it's time for His Maj to weigh in. Here's how I see.

Gem and Andy are far superior musicians to Bonehead and Guigs. End of discussion. I don't know how people can take a fact so far in argument. Gem's guitar is innovative, he is more technically skilled that Noel, and is able to mesh into the "new" sound. Andy, likewise, plays the bass with more conviction and a bit of flair. They are, as Noel has frequently stated, professionals.

That being said, Bonehead and Guigsy are inferior musicians.

Now that that's out of the way, let's get to the real deal. Bonehead and Guigsy made the Oasis sound. It's that heavy dirty rhythm guitar with rudimentary bass grooving that made most of Oasis' songs sound so mammoth (Cigarettes & Alcohol, Roll With It, Morning Glory) in the early days. Bonehead and Guigsy laid down the basics upon which Noel and Liam delivered the timeless melodies. They weren't out to impress - just build the basics. That's why the first 3 albums and the Masterplan are so well done, in my opinion.

Outside the studio I think that Bonehead and Guigsy are also better. It's true that Andy and Gem are into the interviews and are accomplished in their own rights, Bonehead and Guigsy were fun, outrageous, and just northern lads in a rock band. That was what Oasis was about.

Now, I don't want to come off like I fucking dislike the new Oasis. I don't. I love it and it's new and interesting. It's just that it's different, and will never compare to the old days when Oasis was something altogether less "musiciany" and more fucking rock.

Gem and Andy have been in Oasis longer than Bonehead and Guigsy were.

And Paul McCartney is the best bassist ever, he was so creative and did so much for the bass. Before Paul, Bass Players were boring, didnt sing, and were the fat guy in the group. Paul McCartney broke that mold

You can't compare Bonehead and Gem. It makes no sense. They have completely different roles in the sound of the band. If you listen to Gem, he really isn't a rhytm guitarist (which is what Bonehead only did). He share things with Noel, and is a great lead guitarist.

About Guigsy and Andy, I really don't know, as long as they do their job live, to me bass players are always ok. The good thing about Gem and Andy is that they're musicians, they play guitar, bass and keyboards, and they give a more "band-ish" approach to Oasis. Which is what Noel Gallagher (maybe tired of doing everything, maybe uninspired, maybe a bored lazy bastard) was searching for.