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Post by themanwithnoname on Oct 13, 2008 5:19:34 GMT -5
It's great until Falling Down fades out and then it's sub-standard filler. Actually, filler is too kind a word for it.
Noel has unwittingly sabotaged his own album by putting on shite like Nature of Reality, Ain't Got Nothin' and the dull, plodding Soldier On.
Of the songs they had at their disposal that we've heard I would have put Boy With The Blues (but chopping the last 30 secs off) and (I Want To Live In A Dream) In My Record Machine on there and made it a 10-track album, replacing the three I mentioned.
It's another missed opportunity and doubly disappointing that they keep shooting themselves in the foot by picking the wrong tunes for the album.
As with SOTSOG and HC, the potential for a great album was there and they fumbled the ball.
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Post by ourkidpauluk on Oct 13, 2008 6:26:38 GMT -5
You're a joke. All those have weak tracks. WHERE are the weak tracks on DM? even DD is a good tune MG has none at all and the quirky song on there is She's Electric I would say DOYS is the first album for a while with no totally weak tracks Ironically you name the tunes i think are 'weak'. Your know fine rightly Digsy's Diner and She's Electric are far off the rest of the standard, but your trying to make excuses for them already before people start naming them! If you were more convincing you could have chosen two less obviously 'poor by the standard of the rest' tunes, like maybe Up in the Sky and Hey Now. |
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Post by oasis21128 on Oct 13, 2008 10:12:39 GMT -5
Another WUM wank thread. Yes DOYS has a weak track on it, as does Sgt Pepper (within you without you), Revolver (Good Day Sunshine is bobbins), Beggars Banquet (factory girl) etc etc.. Every great artist has the odd weak track on even the best albums. By the way, can somebody give me the weak tracks on DM & WTSMG For me....there's none on DM, but I got to go with 'Hey Now' and She's Electric' for MG. |
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Post by Oasis39 on Oct 13, 2008 11:55:46 GMT -5
Another WUM wank thread. Yes DOYS has a weak track on it, as does Sgt Pepper (within you without you), Revolver (Good Day Sunshine is bobbins), Beggars Banquet (factory girl) etc etc.. Every great artist has the odd weak track on even the best albums. By the way, can somebody give me the weak tracks on DM & WTSMG For me....there's none on DM, but I got to go with 'Hey Now' and She's Electric' for MG. I fuckin Love Hey Now and Shes Electric |
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Post by Wonderwailer on Oct 13, 2008 12:33:02 GMT -5
For me....there's none on DM, but I got to go with 'Hey Now' and She's Electric' for MG. I fuckin Love Hey Now and Shes Electric I agree with Shes Electric but Hey Now! should have been cut down a few minutes and used as a B-side. Underneath the Sky is monumentally better...Replace Hello with Acquisce and u have the perfect album...WAH HEY! |
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Post by NY on Oct 13, 2008 19:38:14 GMT -5
everyone just give me some karma no |
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Oct 13, 2008 23:25:17 GMT -5
For me....there's none on DM, but I got to go with 'Hey Now' and She's Electric' for MG. I fuckin Love Hey Now and Shes Electric Once again, everyone is hating on great material. HC is amazing, and so are Hey Now and She's Electric. Fucking mega stuff Especially She's Electric......  |
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Post by turnupthetruth on Oct 14, 2008 0:28:41 GMT -5
Listen to To Be Where There's Life. It's where the term Dig Out Your Soul comes from.
Listen to the part where Liam blasts out "Dig Out Your Soul". This is an amazing song.
"Dreamers come calling, neighbors jump walling" - how can you not love this song?
Pete Paphides of The Times raves that “Gem Archer’s sole compositional contribution, To Be Where There’s Life, charges along on a bassline, played by Bell, that may push Paul McCartney’s eyebrows up into the realms of physical implausibility”. Freelance journalist Marvin J Marcus states that "To Be Where There's Life" is another highlight. Sitar + great groove + stunning bass line = awesome. And once again it doesn't sound quite like anything Oasis has recorded before”. The Cleveland Leader says “the track has a gritty Liam Gallagher vocal, a mean bass line, a sitar, and bravely forgoes the use of a guitar” in a review titled “A Lot to Dig on New Oasis Album 'Dig Out Your Soul’”. Gigwise proclaims of To Be Where There’s Life that “the plunge back into the verse and the scream of “Dig Out Your Soul” is the intelligent equivalent of an hour listening to Stephen Fry”.
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Oct 14, 2008 0:38:53 GMT -5
I'm not bashing TBWTL. Chune, top quality.
I'm bashing everything else except TBWTL, and the first 5 songs. The rest doesn't do it for me yet
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Post by Oasis39 on Oct 14, 2008 0:44:36 GMT -5
TBWTL is boss
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 1:36:50 GMT -5
To Be Where There's Life is amazing. Honestly, did not expect a tune of that quality from Gem.
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Post by pete2ndbest on Oct 14, 2008 2:15:28 GMT -5
The perception that DM has no weak tracks is actually a false one. I mean, it's the best album ever but how often do you play Up In The Sky or Shakermaker individually? Or Columbia? I mean, they're all top songs, but mostly in the context of the entire album. They provide the needed "landscapes" between the stone cold classics such as Supersonic, Live Forever and Slide Away, but none of us would listen to an album made entirely of Shakermakers or Columbia, I would presume. If DM came out today, you'd be complaining about some of the tracks. I know this for sure. I just can't prove it. P.S. DOYS is fantastic! |
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 14, 2008 3:31:50 GMT -5
I can't believe people complain (especially so-called Oasis fans)
This album is awesome. It's simply their best since the mid 90's. They're back on top form. Stop complaining.
I Love "Dig Out Your Soul",, Fuck everyone who doesn't!!!
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Post by _COLUMBIA_ on Oct 14, 2008 3:38:42 GMT -5
Yeah man and that riff at the start of NOR is top stuff.
Fucking awesome album
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Oct 14, 2008 3:39:31 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy D on Oct 14, 2008 4:14:12 GMT -5
i actually enjoy listening to last half of DOYS (and the 1st) i dunno how anyone can compare to HC, very strange.
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 14, 2008 4:33:04 GMT -5
i actually enjoy listening to last half of DOYS (and the 1st) i dunno how anyone can compare to HC, very strange. I agree with you it is strange  and I love the second half of DOYS. 7. "Falling Down"- One of the best on the album. Wall of sound. 8. "To Be Where There's Life"- I love this tune. the bass is awesome and the lyrics are great too. "Dig Out Your Soul- Cos Here We Go", You just have to love that lyric and the way it's delivered! 9. "Ain't Got Nothing"- Definitely not Liam's worst tune. Nice little rocker! I love the drums and the guitars and bass are clearer than the demo. 10. "The Nature Of Reality"- It grew on me, the naked guitars and the solo are ace! Liam's vocals are also very good. Lyrically brilliant too. 11. "Soldier On"- When I first heard the clips this was my favorite. This is a great closer, it just grooves on and on and on. I love it! Very different to anything Liam ever wrote. I doubt he wrote this!So there you go, I feel sorry for people who don't like the second half of the album. I think it's what makes the album. |
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Oct 14, 2008 11:06:56 GMT -5
In order of best:
DM
MG
MASTERPLAN
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BHN
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SOTSOG
DBTT
DOYS
HC
As for DOYS. It's ok. More lively and detailed than DBTT, but by no means a better album. Also has probably the most filler of any Oasis album ever. TBWTL woulda made a cool 3 minute song, but it gets old REALLY quick since it just repeats. TNOR is Rubbish. As for Liam's tunes, only 'Outta Time' is good, while the other two are also filler. Noel's songs are, predictably, the best part of the album, but let's be honest that none of these songs, bar 'Falling Down 'and maybe 'The Turning' woulda made it onto any of the first 4 albums (including b-side album the Masterplan). In fact, they would have struggled to make it as B-Sides. TSOTL is decent, but by-numbers Oasis. Overall, I was excited upon first listen, mainly because it's another culmination of 3 years of waiting, but ultimately it's just ok.
Bring on the tour though!!
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Post by ltrain44 on Oct 15, 2008 2:25:46 GMT -5
MG has some weak tracks. "Hey Now" is definately a weak weak track. A lot of the songs on MG are weak on the album but great live. Like hello, roll with it, she's electric, cast no shadow, wonderwall. All those tracks in my opinion sound so great live but on the album they just dont do it for me.
OK, as for DOYS I think soldier on is horrible, along with nature of reality. To be where there's life is horrible on the record but its great live. I know they put some of those songs on there because it "flowed" better or whatever with the rest of the album but noel sometimes does have poor choices for A sides. They could of dropped soldier on, aint got nothin, maybe High horse lady, it gets old after awhile.... and noel said that andy has way better songs then the nature of reality but that it is on there because it fits the album better. Whatever noel.
Or fucking put more tracks on the album. I dont get why they just dont do that. And to not play Bag it up live or "the turning" sucks too. I mean, they could drop aint got nothin and songbird and put those 2 on there. Ridiculous.
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Post by CF83 on Oct 16, 2008 5:19:40 GMT -5
Another WUM wank thread. Yes DOYS has a weak track on it, as does Sgt Pepper (within you without you), Revolver (Good Day Sunshine is bobbins), Beggars Banquet (factory girl) etc etc.. Every great artist has the odd weak track on even the best albums. By the way, can somebody give me the weak tracks on DM & WTSMG I LOVE Within You Without You...! |
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Post by Ian on Oct 16, 2008 5:27:40 GMT -5
DOYS is a fine, fine album. Its a good album for Oasis in 2008. 4th best Oasis album for me, behind the 3 albums made in the 90's, Im sure you can probably guess in which order.
For me, it has two songs on it not fit for an album(TNOR+GOYHHL).Th rest of the songs on the album range from good to absolutely inspired genuis inmy opinion. A fine album. Comparing it to Heathen Chemistry is foolish.
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Post by johnlennon696 on Oct 16, 2008 5:38:03 GMT -5
I look forward to listening to all the tracks apart from NOR, GOYHHL and AGN, excellent album and not a dissapointing as HC IMO...
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Post by tony156 on Oct 16, 2008 18:53:02 GMT -5
hc is a top album dont be a knob only prob with doys is the songs not written by noel are a bit too weak
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Oct 17, 2008 10:54:50 GMT -5
I reckon that DOYS is a good album. It's GOOD. Nothing more. I have listened to it about 30 times by now, I'm sure (generally twice per day as it's in my car and on my computer!!)
Let's get some things straight -
MG and DM each have tracks that we can't all agree are classics : Digsy's Dinner, Hey Now!, She's Electric .... whatever. I personally love all of these songs and to me these albums are gems. Fucking brilliant material.
With more recent albums it's gone from having a comparatively weak song (such as Digsy's Dinner compared to the rest of the album) to having incomparatively weak songs. They are just weak.
People will point to songs off of
BHN like IHITIK, Magic Pie, My Big Mouth, Fade-In/Out
SOTSOG like Little James, PYMWYMI, I Can See A Liar
HC like Force of Nature, Probably All In The Mind, Better Man, Quick Peep
DBTT like POTQ or Mucky Fingers
DOYS like High Horse, Nature of Reality, or Soldier On
Now this is a list of songs that I've heard people COMPLAIN about. Nothing to do with which songs I don't like because they are few and far between (save DOYS).
All I'm saying is that Oasis has gotten better at making albums with a lot of filler. When we used to complain about an album having ONE bad track, we are now complaining about an album having 3 or 4.
I don't know how you can defend an album as amazing when it has songs you want to skip because they just aren't up to par. What's the deal with that?
As I said - the album is certainly good. And I enjoy it, but I think that people are inflating it because it is new. It is NOT an amazing album. You will all agree with me in about 3 months. Trust me. It's GOOD. I love it. I'm happy Oasis has a new album. I'm excited about the new musical direction. But this is just not something fantastic.
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Oct 17, 2008 12:10:01 GMT -5
I reckon that DOYS is a good album. It's GOOD. Nothing more. I have listened to it about 30 times by now, I'm sure (generally twice per day as it's in my car and on my computer!!) Let's get some things straight - MG and DM each have tracks that we can't all agree are classics : Digsy's Dinner, Hey Now!, She's Electric .... whatever. I personally love all of these songs and to me these albums are gems. Fucking brilliant material. With more recent albums it's gone from having a comparatively weak song (such as Digsy's Dinner compared to the rest of the album) to having incomparatively weak songs. They are just weak. People will point to songs off of BHN like IHITIK, Magic Pie, My Big Mouth, Fade-In/Out SOTSOG like Little James, PYMWYMI, I Can See A Liar HC like Force of Nature, Probably All In The Mind, Better Man, Quick Peep DBTT like POTQ or Mucky Fingers DOYS like High Horse, Nature of Reality, or Soldier On Now this is a list of songs that I've heard people COMPLAIN about. Nothing to do with which songs I don't like because they are few and far between (save DOYS). All I'm saying is that Oasis has gotten better at making albums with a lot of filler. When we used to complain about an album having ONE bad track, we are now complaining about an album having 3 or 4. I don't know how you can defend an album as amazing when it has songs you want to skip because they just aren't up to par. What's the deal with that? As I said - the album is certainly good. And I enjoy it, but I think that people are inflating it because it is new. It is NOT an amazing album. You will all agree with me in about 3 months. Trust me. It's GOOD. I love it. I'm happy Oasis has a new album. I'm excited about the new musical direction. But this is just not something fantastic. You sir, have nailed it on the head. It's both (1) the higher number of filler/weak tracks on the past 4 Oasis albums and the (2) total disparity in quality of the 'standout' songs and the 'filler' songs. Like you said, a song like Digsy's Dinner (or Shakermaker IMO) is only filler relative to the other classics on the album. But they are certainly not weak tracks at all. Now we are getting rubbish such as Little James, (Probably) All in the mind, Mucky Fingers, 95% of Liam's songs, 100% of Gem and Andy's...lol. And DOYS is a GOOD album overall, and when you consider it in the Oasis catalog, it's only in the bottom end, amongst the last few albums. |
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