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Post by jacksonlennon on Sept 26, 2008 0:57:17 GMT -5
the simpleness is what makes it great.
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Post by Moorish on Sept 26, 2008 4:08:23 GMT -5
yes I think IOT>LAMB... LAMB is a great song but I think IOT is a bit better Sorry, but no. EPICALLY no. LAMB is so much better than IOT it isn't even funny. It's a whole league and a hop, skip and jump better. Better lyrics, better melody, better structure, even better production. SCYHO is a fantastic song, but Ive always felt that it needed a little bit more. And IOT doesn't need more??!? It's two verses, two choruses and a load of lalalalalalalalala!! Of all the arguments in support of this tune, the fact that other songs "need more" is the dumbest. Fact is if Noel wrote I'm Outta Time, people would be going absolutely fucking insane. The fact that the song credit says "Liam Gallagher" automatically means that some fans are gonna immediately dismiss the tune before giving it a chance. No, if Noel wrote it, people would be saying "this is a good tune but a bit half arsed. Where's the second half? This is the sort of thing we'd expect of Liam".
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Post by juppoff on Sept 26, 2008 11:15:10 GMT -5
IOT is no where near as good as SCYHO or LTBL.
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Post by missamanda08 on Sept 26, 2008 11:46:58 GMT -5
i'm outta time is brilliant. liam sounds great on the track...you can just hear the clarity in his voice. definately on my list of favourites.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 26, 2008 13:17:36 GMT -5
LAMB seems to be unfinished to me
Its def not better than Im Outta Time
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Post by Northern Soul on Sept 26, 2008 13:25:43 GMT -5
Obviously some people don't understand the thread title, so I'll help them out:
appreciation ap·pre·ci·a·tion [uh-pree-shee-ey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key –noun 1. gratitude; thankful recognition: They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch. 2. the act of estimating the qualities of things and giving them their proper value. 3. clear perception or recognition, esp. of aesthetic quality: a course in art appreciation. 4. an increase or rise in the value of property, goods, etc. 5. critical notice; evaluation; opinion, as of a situation, person, etc. 6. a critique or written evaluation, esp. when favorable.
If you don't like it, post in another thread.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 26, 2008 13:28:55 GMT -5
Obviously some people don't understand the thread title, so I'll help them out: appreciationap·pre·ci·a·tion [uh-pree-shee-ey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key –noun 1. gratitude; thankful recognition: They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch. 2. the act of estimating the qualities of things and giving them their proper value. 3. clear perception or recognition, esp. of aesthetic quality: a course in art appreciation. 4. an increase or rise in the value of property, goods, etc. 5. critical notice; evaluation; opinion, as of a situation, person, etc. 6. a critique or written evaluation, esp. when favorable. If you don't like it, post in another thread. You are the man
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Post by custodian on Sept 26, 2008 13:44:06 GMT -5
I think this is an example of "new material overreaction". So IOT is better than TIOBI? Or LAMB? Or Songbird? (a better tune, IMHO)? Or Gas Panic? Or SCYHO? Or GLIO? I can't see it myself. It's a pretty good track. But that's it. If Liam had bothered to write another verse for it it might feel more like a proper song, and not the usual half-baked, half-written Liam material. He writes two verses at most, then the chorus, then just goes lalalalalalalalala through the rest of the song. I'd put it on par with TIOBI, both are Oasis classics IMO. The others you listed are all very fine songs but I think Outta Time has the edge over them. It is easily one of their best tracks since Morning Glory.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 26, 2008 13:46:30 GMT -5
Oasis fans are extremly picky
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Post by keystone1316 on Sept 26, 2008 16:24:52 GMT -5
yes I think IOT>LAMB... LAMB is a great song but I think IOT is a bit better Sorry, but no. EPICALLY no. LAMB is so much better than IOT it isn't even funny. It's a whole league and a hop, skip and jump better. Better lyrics, better melody, better structure, even better production. And IOT doesn't need more??!? It's two verses, two choruses and a load of lalalalalalalalala!! Of all the arguments in support of this tune, the fact that other songs "need more" is the dumbest. Fact is if Noel wrote I'm Outta Time, people would be going absolutely fucking insane. The fact that the song credit says "Liam Gallagher" automatically means that some fans are gonna immediately dismiss the tune before giving it a chance. No, if Noel wrote it, people would be saying "this is a good tune but a bit half arsed. Where's the second half? This is the sort of thing we'd expect of Liam". whatever, not gonna argue with you about which song is better, cuz neither of our opinions is gonna change Facts are A. I'm Outta Time is Liam's best written song yet. B. It features Liam's best vocals since BHN. C. Its produced beautifully D. Its the only song on DOYS that has a chance in hell at cracking the Billboard top 40/75/or prolly even 200 E. I'd bet all of my money and my left arm that its the most successful single off of DOYS. F. It'll be a No. 1 hit for sure... unless it defies all odds and "only" goes to no. 2 So far with DOYS, I havent approached it as a hardcore Oasis fan and picked apart every fucking lyric one by one and "divide" the songs based on who wrote them. I just listen to the songs as a MUSIC fan and enjoy the songs because of their melodies, vocals, production, etc. And based on this, I have to say that imo, Im Outta Time is the best song on the album.
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Post by lorijo on Sept 26, 2008 17:47:11 GMT -5
What I love is that this album has people going hard for each one of the songs (except maybe TNOR - LOL) which makes it a masterpiece. Something for everyone. That being said, I nearly came to tears over "I'm Outta Time". Your best to date Liam... and I am excited for your future as a songwriter... absolutely gorgeous. No doubt inspired by John, but it is doing him proud... VERY proud
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 26, 2008 17:47:51 GMT -5
Sorry, but no. EPICALLY no. LAMB is so much better than IOT it isn't even funny. It's a whole league and a hop, skip and jump better. Better lyrics, better melody, better structure, even better production. And IOT doesn't need more??!? It's two verses, two choruses and a load of lalalalalalalalala!! Of all the arguments in support of this tune, the fact that other songs "need more" is the dumbest. No, if Noel wrote it, people would be saying "this is a good tune but a bit half arsed. Where's the second half? This is the sort of thing we'd expect of Liam". whatever, not gonna argue with you about which song is better, cuz neither of our opinions is gonna change Facts are A. I'm Outta Time is Liam's best written song yet. B. It features Liam's best vocals since BHN. C. Its produced beautifully D. Its the only song on DOYS that has a chance in hell at cracking the Billboard top 40/75/or prolly even 200 E. I'd bet all of my money and my left arm that its the most successful single off of DOYS. F. It'll be a No. 1 hit for sure... unless it defies all odds and "only" goes to no. 2 So far with DOYS, I havent approached it as a hardcore Oasis fan and picked apart every fucking lyric one by one and "divide" the songs based on who wrote them. I just listen to the songs as a MUSIC fan and enjoy the songs because of their melodies, vocals, production, etc. And based on this, I have to say that imo, Im Outta Time is the best song on the album. I'll take this one for Moorish: A. IOT may be Liam's best-written song. But is that really saying much? B. Just because a singer's vocals are good on a song, doesn't really provide an argument. Another words, Liam's vocals are good on TMOS and that's a shit song. Get it? C. All the songs on DOYS have good production. FD, for example, shits on this song from a 'production' standpoint. D. Just because it's the only song on DOYS that may crack the Billboard, it doesn't make it good. It just means it's the most radio-friendly song on an otherwise unradio-friendly album. And is the Billboard any indication of a good song? Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, etc. consistently crack the Billboard top 20. Enough said . . . E. Once again, just because it's a successful single, doesn't make it better than any other Oasis song. Fallout Boy will have more successful singles than IOT, or any other DOYS song for that matter. But does that make it better? F. No.1 or No.2 doesn't really mean anything. Roll With It went number 2. But Cast No Shadow shits all over it.
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Post by lorijo on Sept 26, 2008 17:57:26 GMT -5
A. IOT may be Liam's best-written song. But is that really saying much? It's saying a LOT, IMO, that Liam Gallagher has written something as gorgeous as the Masterplan ON HIS OWN. Do you know how huge that is as an Oasis fan that Liam is starting to come into his own as a songwriter?! Twice the Gallagher magic is A-OK by me. Noel will always be the master, but I'm very proud of Liam for stepping up and finding his own way as a songwriter, whatever his inspiration is (though I think it's a certain Canadian girl who's not me - we love you Nicky!). It started with Songbird and now this... can't wait for more from Our Kid!
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Post by keystone1316 on Sept 26, 2008 18:36:04 GMT -5
whatever, not gonna argue with you about which song is better, cuz neither of our opinions is gonna change Facts are A. I'm Outta Time is Liam's best written song yet. B. It features Liam's best vocals since BHN. C. Its produced beautifully D. Its the only song on DOYS that has a chance in hell at cracking the Billboard top 40/75/or prolly even 200 E. I'd bet all of my money and my left arm that its the most successful single off of DOYS. F. It'll be a No. 1 hit for sure... unless it defies all odds and "only" goes to no. 2 So far with DOYS, I havent approached it as a hardcore Oasis fan and picked apart every fucking lyric one by one and "divide" the songs based on who wrote them. I just listen to the songs as a MUSIC fan and enjoy the songs because of their melodies, vocals, production, etc. And based on this, I have to say that imo, Im Outta Time is the best song on the album. I'll take this one for Moorish: A. IOT may be Liam's best-written song. But is that really saying much? B. Just because a singer's vocals are good on a song, doesn't really provide an argument. Another words, Liam's vocals are good on TMOS and that's a shit song. Get it? C. All the songs on DOYS have good production. FD, for example, shits on this song from a 'production' standpoint. D. Just because it's the only song on DOYS that may crack the Billboard, it doesn't make it good. It just means it's the most radio-friendly song on an otherwise unradio-friendly album. And is the Billboard any indication of a good song? Britney Spears, Gwen Stefani, etc. consistently crack the Billboard top 20. Enough said . . . E. Once again, just because it's a successful single, doesn't make it better than any other Oasis song. Fallout Boy will have more successful singles than IOT, or any other DOYS song for that matter. But does that make it better? F. No.1 or No.2 doesn't really mean anything. Roll With It went number 2. But Cast No Shadow shits all over it. A. Yea. GGTIA was one of the best songs off of DBTT. LLAB was great too. Plus, many people credit Songbird as one of the best off of HC. B. Never said great vocals made the song great. Just saying that it has Liam's best vocal in prolly a decade. Thats certainly something to be happy/excited about??? C. I do agree, although I think IOT has better production than almost all of the other songs (maybe TBWTL or FD has better) D. Having an Oasis song be a hit in the USA would definately be something to get excited about. And I never said that cracking the Billboard 200 means its a great song. Im just saying that if Oasis... a band that hasnt had a US hit in years... manages to crack the US charts with this song, than that means its certainly a special tune. I think it has the ability as well. E. Well... if its a successful single that means that its prolly pretty well liked by the general public. And altho most people are too elite to admit it... the general public has musical opinions equal to anyone elses... regardless of the music they listen to on a regular basis. F. Thats quite opionated... Cast No Shadow almost didnt make the goddamn album... and very rarely do "shit" songs make it to no. 1 or no. 2 on the UK charts. They may be "shit" in your opinion... but most fans of music will admit that they're catchy, well structured songs. I'm telling ya... I played the album on the way to a tennis match and the only songs that the other kids in the car really liked were I'm Outta Time (loved it), TSOTL (loved it), Falling Down, Bag It Up, and a couple liked TBWTL and The Turning. They all found Waiting for the Rapture and Soldier On to be boring as shit, and didnt think NoR or Aint Got Nothing were that good either. And Im guessing that casual/non Oasis fans will feel very similarly.
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Post by seanppp on Sept 26, 2008 22:54:55 GMT -5
Has anyone else mentioned this song totally sounds like it was written by Jet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2008 23:41:57 GMT -5
I'm Outta Time is a fucking great tune and I don't fucking care who wrote it. It's an absolutely gorgeous tune.
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Post by oasisgeezer on Sept 27, 2008 6:19:38 GMT -5
It's good, but I think you guys are blowing it up a little bit. It sounds like a remarkably well-produced version of Born On A Different Cloud to me. cept BOADC was boring, repetitive, had terrible vocals, stupid lyrics, and a mediocre melody honestly, I think I'm Outta Time is the best song Oasis has put out since BHN probably. It's already entered the ranks as one of my top 5 favorite Oasis songs... along with DYKWIM, Champagne Supernova, Wonderwall, and Morning Glory. You won't be saying that in 6 months time
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Post by Moorish on Sept 27, 2008 10:02:04 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahaha indeed. Now we're talking about IOT being in the same league as The Masterplan, are we? THE MASTERPLAN?!?!??! One of - if not possibly THE - best songs Noel has ever written? Delusional. Utterly.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 27, 2008 14:26:55 GMT -5
Has anyone else mentioned this song totally sounds like it was written by Jet? Has anyone told you that Jet sounds like Oasis?
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 27, 2008 14:28:55 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahaha indeed. Now we're talking about IOT being in the same league as The Masterplan, are we? THE MASTERPLAN?!?!??! One of - if not possibly THE - best songs Noel has ever written? Delusional. Utterly. moorish, wtf is your deal? Not everyone has to think that The Masterplan is better than Im Outta Time. Im Outta Time is in the same league with The Masterplan IMO. Maybe you dont feel the same way, but that doesnt mean im a delusional fan. Get over yourself mate, not everyone should have the same opinions.
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 27, 2008 15:13:15 GMT -5
Hahahahahahahaha indeed. Now we're talking about IOT being in the same league as The Masterplan, are we? THE MASTERPLAN?!?!??! One of - if not possibly THE - best songs Noel has ever written? Delusional. Utterly. moorish, wtf is your deal? Not everyone has to think that The Masterplan is better than Im Outta Time. Im Outta Time is in the same league with The Masterplan IMO. Maybe you dont feel the same way, but that doesnt mean im a delusional fan. Get over yourself mate, not everyone should have the same opinions. You're right. Your thoughts that IOT is in the same league as The Masterplan is your opinion. And you're definitely entitled to it. As is anyone else on this forum. But The Masterplan being in a whole other league than IOT is a fact. It's the definition of a fact . . .
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Post by checkwithmemum on Sept 27, 2008 17:02:48 GMT -5
But The Masterplan being in a whole other league than IOT is a fact. It's the definition of a fact . . . Nope, thats still opinion and passing it off as fact is sheer and utter garbage and you my friend seem to have a garbage by the truck load.
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 28, 2008 3:28:18 GMT -5
But The Masterplan being in a whole other league than IOT is a fact. It's the definition of a fact . . . Nope, thats still opinion and passing it off as fact is sheer and utter garbage and you my friend seem to have a garbage by the truck load. Are you fucking serious? You really think IOT is better than The Masterplan?? lol. You may prefer IOT to TM. But TM is a better song. There's a difference . . .
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Post by truongbt on Sept 28, 2008 4:45:34 GMT -5
Has anyone else mentioned this song totally sounds like it was written by Jet? Has anyone told you that Jet sounds like Oasis? heh.. spot on mate.
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Post by keystone1316 on Sept 28, 2008 12:04:20 GMT -5
Nope, thats still opinion and passing it off as fact is sheer and utter garbage and you my friend seem to have a garbage by the truck load. Are you fucking serious? You really think IOT is better than The Masterplan?? lol. You may prefer IOT to TM. But TM is a better song. There's a difference . . . you may prefer other DOYS to Im Outta Time, but Im Outta Time is still the best song on the album. see I can do it too. Its still kind of opinion tho. I think the production on The Masterplan is what really makes the song, the melody is decent and Noel's vocals are great, but the production is the best part of the song. Without it, itd just be another Noel sung acoustic track.
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