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Post by mrburns on Aug 14, 2008 12:15:41 GMT -5
Release Date: 6 October 2008
Written By: Tracks 1,2,3,4,6,7 written by Noel Gallagher Track 5,9,11 written by Liam Gallagher Track 8 written by Gem Track 10 Written by Andy Bell
Produced By: Produced and Mixed by Dave Sardy Engineered By Ryan Castle
The Band: Liam Gallagher- Vocals Noel Gallagher- Vocals, Electric Guitar, Drums, Keyboards and electronics Gem- Electric Guitar, Bass, Keyboards Andy Bell- Bass, Electric Guitar, Keyboard and tamboura Zak Starkey & Noel Gallagher on Drums for tracks 1 and 3 Zak Starkey on Drums for tracks 2,4,5,6,7,8,9 Noel Gallagher on Drums for track 11
Recorded At: Studio 2 at Abbey Road Studios, London & Hillside Manor. Mixed at The Village Recorder, Los Angeles.
Additional Information: Other versions avilable include Limited Edition CD/DVD, LP Gatefold Sleeve (2x LP Heavyweight Vinyl
Tracklist: 01 Bag It Up - 04:39 02 The Turning - 05:05 03 Waiting For The Rapture - 03:03 04 The Shock Of The Lightning - 05:00 05 I'm Outta Time - 04:10 06 (Get Off Your) High Horse - 04:07 07 Falling Down - 04:20 08 To Be Where There's Life - 04:35 09 Ain't Got Nothin - 02:15 10 The Nature Of Reality - 03:48 11 Soldier On - 04:49
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Post by webm@ster on Aug 14, 2008 12:17:47 GMT -5
source?
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Post by mrburns on Aug 14, 2008 12:21:00 GMT -5
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Post by jkr on Aug 14, 2008 12:23:12 GMT -5
so no drums for track 10...
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Post by jamesfp123 on Aug 14, 2008 12:23:21 GMT -5
the falling down that we have is 4:32?
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Post by nhr57 on Aug 14, 2008 12:25:11 GMT -5
the falling down that we have is 4:32? Mine is 4:31 with about 11 seconds of silence. Edit: That track time is in Winamp, Windows Media Player displays it at 4:32.
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Aug 14, 2008 12:26:02 GMT -5
the falling down that we have is 4:32? good observation, really weird...
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 14, 2008 12:28:27 GMT -5
Release Date: 6 October 2008 09 Ain't Got Nothin - 02:15 Demo is 2:11 so must be pretty much the same thing.
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 14, 2008 12:30:08 GMT -5
the falling down that we have is 4:32? good observation, really weird... The start in our songfile is probably the end of the 'High Horse' on the album? The song really starts first after 14s in our file. High Horse and Falling Down are blend together?
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Post by Bloomfield on Aug 14, 2008 12:43:31 GMT -5
Oh man, fuck Liam's shitty amateur 2 minute songwriting. Write a whole song you fucking retard... or keep to singing. I really thought Noel would have made Liam make "Ain't Got Nothin' a better, more complete song than the horrific demo if it were to make this record... I'm getting pissed at Noel for being democratic like this... actually, it's not democratic, it's just stupid. We will never get a "classic" Oasis record with these horrifying amateur Liam songs, sorry.
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Post by harry on Aug 14, 2008 12:46:05 GMT -5
45 minutes or so. I was hoping for a bit longer tbh. Hopefully they'll throw in a hidden track there.
The Cage isnt listed on the Heathen Chemistry page so fingers crossed.
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Post by A on Aug 14, 2008 12:54:53 GMT -5
Oh man, fuck Liam's shitty amateur 2 minute songwriting. Write a whole song you fucking retard... or keep to singing. I really thought Noel would have made Liam make "Ain't Got Nothin' a better, more complete song than the horrific demo if it were to make this record... I'm getting pissed at Noel for being democratic like this... actually, it's not democratic, it's just stupid. We will never get a "classic" Oasis record with these horrifying amateur Liam songs, sorry. Lets hear one of your songs then.
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Post by joeyfrancis on Aug 14, 2008 13:00:21 GMT -5
Noel said there's a totally new chorus in Ain't Got Nothing.
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Post by Soldier Ron on Aug 14, 2008 13:13:23 GMT -5
Every album since SOTSOG has had at least one diabolical Liam song on it, it's a tradition by now, like breasts on the screen at Wembley.
Hopefully we get 2 mins of crap in AGN (it's over quickly) and the other two he wrote will be mega.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Aug 14, 2008 13:16:27 GMT -5
If "I'm Outta Time" is as good as they're saying, then I'll deal with the klunker that is Ain't Got Nothing
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 14, 2008 13:53:03 GMT -5
Let's not worry about AGN, it's 2 mins out of 45!!!!!!
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Post by Bloomfield on Aug 14, 2008 14:04:51 GMT -5
Oh man, fuck Liam's shitty amateur 2 minute songwriting. Write a whole song you fucking retard... or keep to singing. I really thought Noel would have made Liam make "Ain't Got Nothin' a better, more complete song than the horrific demo if it were to make this record... I'm getting pissed at Noel for being democratic like this... actually, it's not democratic, it's just stupid. We will never get a "classic" Oasis record with these horrifying amateur Liam songs, sorry. Lets hear one of your songs then. First of all, fuck you. As someone who has been an Oasis fan since the Supersonic Single came out 3 months BEFORE Definitely Maybe when I was 14, I'm entitled to state that some of Liam's songs are amateur shit, and if you think I'm alone on this think again... it's a pretty broadly shared opinion amongst Oasis fans who can be objective. Second of all, if me writing songs makes my opinion more relevant, then you're not entitled to stick up for Liam's shite unless you yourself write quality songs. Idiotic isn't it. And anyone who isn't writing world class songs at the moment isn't allowed to like or dislike songs from the new record? Dick. I do write songs and my band just finished a record with two UK producers from Abbey Road, but that doesn't mean shit. www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=26e9df4b45d442cbab1eab3e9fa335ca9f1f9877d8df88e8I'm swearing up a storm today!
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Post by rmillis on Aug 14, 2008 14:40:52 GMT -5
I just downloaded your song. It's awesome! Only thing I didn't like was the min long intro (constructive criticism). Keep it up!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 14, 2008 14:49:48 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that it's NOT hard to write lyrics.....I mean, I'm good at writing papers for school, and it's not much different. I'm good at one liners, same concept. Just play around with words.
What is hard, though, is melody and all that. I haven't tried it, I'm not a song writer lol.....I really don't think there's an excuse for poor lyrics - if you're a good writer that is. If you're not, then don't write songs (Liam has shown he's capable with Song Bird) and if you are good, then producing shite like "Noise/Toys" is just lazy. Must try harder....
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Post by rekrelf on Aug 14, 2008 14:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 14, 2008 14:55:57 GMT -5
Noel said there's a totally new chorus in Ain't Got Nothing. The old chorus was the only decent part of the song so doesnt help much really. They should have remade the verse instead. I am actually happy they didnt make it longer. A 2 minute song cant ruin an album. I hope they make it with good production then those 2 minutes may go quick. I though have to say it is very strange that Noel let Liam have tracks like MoS and AGN on albums when he has loads of better songs himself. Doesnt our chief has as strong confidence in hiself anymore or is Liam taking over?
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Post by Bloomfield on Aug 14, 2008 15:04:04 GMT -5
It's cool to bag on "Little James" but I'll take that over Songbird any day... it's much more of a complete song and it has some incredible dynamics... Noel's solo section is amazing, and the melody and construction is top notch... that one line has everyone saying the whole song is crap but it's more naive sounding than amateur to me... and that works. I love Little James... it's honest and well written, and as naive as the "noise/toys" line is, he laid down some serious shit with "It won't be long, before everyone is gone"... Songbird is just the one little verse melody twice, over two chords and that's it... it's a cool little number but I barely consider it to be a whole song. GGTIA is a top song too, with great lyrics, dynamics and composition... LLAB to me sounds grating... I don't like it all... just that one hook is great... "you turn me on... love's like a bomb, blowing my mind"... I don't like the rest at all, and he sings it too raspy. People always say how great the piano solo is... and they say the same for the demo of Ain't Got Nothin'... but if the solo is the best part of the song, that's not good. I don't care about the politics... with the potential of a hugely produced Record Machine and Stop The Clocks and whatever other Noel songs we haven't heard, there's no excuse for including amateur Liam songs.
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Post by dj12345 on Aug 14, 2008 15:10:41 GMT -5
It's cool to bag on "Little James" but I'll take that over Songbird any day... it's much more of a complete song and it has some incredible dynamics... Noel's solo section is amazing, and the melody and construction is top notch... that one line has everyone saying the whole song is crap but it's more naive sounding than amateur to me... and that works. I love Little James... it's honest and well written, and as naive as the "noise/toys" line is, he laid down some serious shit with "It won't be long, before everyone is gone"... Songbird is just the one little verse melody twice, over two chords and that's it... it's a cool little number but I barely consider it to be a whole song. GGTIA is a top song too, with great lyrics, dynamics and composition... LLAB to me sounds grating... I don't like it all... just that one hook is great... "you turn me on... love's like a bomb, blowing my mind"... I don't like the rest at all, and he sings it too raspy. People always say how great the piano solo is... and they say the same for the demo of Ain't Got Nothin'... but if the solo is the best part of the song, that's not good. I don't care about the politics... with the potential of a hugely produced Record Machine and Stop The Clocks and whatever other Noel songs we haven't heard, there's no excuse for including amateur Liam songs. We have very similar opinions I hear. I thought I was the only one who really like GGTIA but at the same time really dislike LLAB.
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Post by Bloomfield on Aug 14, 2008 15:49:34 GMT -5
I love that we've come to the point where we're glad Liam's shitty song is short so as to not completely ruin the album. I have a question... why put short shitty horrific amateur songs on an album when you have one of the greatest songwriters of all time in the band? I guess I'll hold out for totally being pissed off until I hear the new version.
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Post by henrod89 on Aug 14, 2008 15:53:57 GMT -5
It's cool to bag on "Little James" but I'll take that over Songbird any day... it's much more of a complete song and it has some incredible dynamics... Noel's solo section is amazing, and the melody and construction is top notch... that one line has everyone saying the whole song is crap but it's more naive sounding than amateur to me... and that works. I love Little James... it's honest and well written, and as naive as the "noise/toys" line is, he laid down some serious shit with "It won't be long, before everyone is gone"... Songbird is just the one little verse melody twice, over two chords and that's it... it's a cool little number but I barely consider it to be a whole song. GGTIA is a top song too, with great lyrics, dynamics and composition... LLAB to me sounds grating... I don't like it all... just that one hook is great... "you turn me on... love's like a bomb, blowing my mind"... I don't like the rest at all, and he sings it too raspy. People always say how great the piano solo is... and they say the same for the demo of Ain't Got Nothin'... but if the solo is the best part of the song, that's not good. I don't care about the politics... with the potential of a hugely produced Record Machine and Stop The Clocks and whatever other Noel songs we haven't heard, there's no excuse for including amateur Liam songs. Well said. I too write songs and agree that most of Liam's songs are mediocre at best. It really annoys me when people overrate the songs because Liam wrote them. Songbird is pretty good but it's nowhere near as grand as a lot of people here make it out to be. Just like you said, it's two chords and a melody. I know some people will argue that 'it's the simplicity that makes it great'. But we have yet to really get a complete song from Liam. Most of his songs sound incomplete. Little James is by far the most complete song he wrote and I'd be willing to bet that Noel had alot to do with that . . .
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