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Post by Moorish on Nov 25, 2008 5:07:05 GMT -5
E'are, you'll like this. From www.gunnerblog.com: YES WE CAN?
If there is anyone out there who still doubts that Arsenal is a place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of our football club, today is your answer.
It’s the answer told by lines that stretched around burger vans and programme stalls in numbers this club has never seen; by people who sat refreshing Arsenal.com for three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different; that their voices could be that difference.
It’s the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, North Bank and Clock End, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - supporters who sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of individuals or a bunch of corporates and fairweather fans: we are, and always will be, Arsenal.
It’s the answer that led those who have been told for so long by so many (I’m looking at you, Hansen) to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful of what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.
It’s been a long time coming, but today, because of what William Gallas did on Wednesday, in today’s press conference, at this defining moment, change has come to Arsenal.
A little bit earlier this evening I received an extraordinarily gracious call from William Gallas. He fought long and hard in this campaign, and he’s fought even longer and harder with the demons in his mind. He has endured sacrifices for Arsenal that most of us cannot begin to imagine - namely his sanity. We are better off without the service rendered by this ‘brave’ and ’selfless’ leader.
I commiserate him, as I commiserate Alexandre Song, for all they have failed to achieve, yet I look forward to working with them to renew this team’s promise in the months ahead.
But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to - it belongs to you: the Arsenal fans.
Cesc was never the likeliest candidate for this office. He doesn’t come with many trophies or much experience. His campaign was not hatched in the halls of Clairefontaine - it began in the streets of Cataluña and the living rooms of Barnet and on the training pitch at London Colney.
It was built by hard work and board members who dug into what little savings they had to give £5,000 and £10,000 and £20,000 to the cause.
It grew strength from the young man who rejected the myth of his generation’s apathy; who left his home and family for a job that offered bitter cold and plenty of kicks; it grew strength from the not-so-young people who took in a perfect stranger and help him acclimatise to life in this country; from the thousands of Arsenal supporters who cheered, and supported, and proved that more than one hundred years after its founding, a club run by fans and for fans has not perished from the Premier League.
This is your victory.
I know you didn’t do this just to sort the captaincy issue and I know you didn’t do it for Cesc Fabregas. You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of Arsene’s reign - the threat of Aston Villa, a midfield weaker than balsa wood, the worst financial crisis in a century.
Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Arsenal fans waking up in the streets of Islington and the suburbs of Hertfordshire who risk being mocked by Spurs fans, Chelsea fans, and more.
There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after their children fall asleep and wonder how they’ll face their co-workers on Monday morning, or reconcile themself to the existence of Emmanuel Eboue, or forgive Adebayor’s latest indiscretion. There are new players to buy and new staff to be appointed; new partnerships to build and threats to meet and alliances to repair.
The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one month or even in one season, but Arsenal - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you - we as a club will get there.
There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won’t agree with every decision or policy Arsene makes as manager, and we know that buying can’t solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree.
And above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this club the only way it’s been done at Arsenal for 122 years - block by block, pass by pass, crunching tackle by crunching tackle.
What began four years ago with Arsene’s decision to do things his way cannot end on this winter night. This victory alone is not the change we seek - it is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It cannot happen without you, without a new spirit of togetherness, a new spirit of support.
So let the players summon a new spirit of passion; of service and responsibility where each of them resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only themselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this recent crisis taught us anything, it’s that we cannot have a thriving Carling Cup team while the first team suffers - at this club, we rise or fall as one nation; as one people: Victoria Concordia Crescit.
Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our team for so long. Let us remember that it was a manager from this club who first carried the banner of ethical football to the Premier League - a club founded on the values of self-reliance, creative liberty, and team unity.
Those are values that we all share, and while the Arsenal fans have won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lee Dixon said on Match of the Day 2: “We are not enemies, but friends… though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection.”
And to those Arsenal fans whose support Arsene has yet to earn - he may not have won your vote tonight, but he hears your voices, he needs your help, and he will be your manager too.
And to all those Arsenal fans reading tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces to those who are huddled around laptops in the forgotten corners of the world - our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of Arsenal leadership is at hand.
To those who would tear our club down - we will defeat you. To those who seek beautiful football and financial security - we support you.
And to all those who have wondered if Arsenal’s beacon still burns as bright - today we proved once more that the true strength of our club comes not from the might of our centre-backs or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: attractive football, sensible finances, opportunity for youth and unyielding hope.
For that is the true genius of Arsene - his Arsenal can change. Our union can be perfected. And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.
This week had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that’s on my mind tonight is about a man whose been an Arsenal fan as long as he can remember. He’s a lot like the thousands of others who logged on to this blog to make their voice heard in this captaincy debate, except for one thing - Steven Rogers is 106 years old.
He was born just a generation past the club’s birth; a time when there were no Jumbotrons in the stadium or prawn sandwiches in the crowd; when someone like Cesc Fabregas couldn’t be captain for two reasons - because he was 21, and because of his nationality.
And tonight, I think about all that he’s seen throughout his century with Arsenal - the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can’t, and the people who pressed on with that Arsenal creed: Yes, we can.
At a time when Herbet Chapman was called mad and his innovations dismissed, he lived to see Chapman stand up and speak out and add those white sleeves. Yes, we can.
When there was despair in the changing room and depression across the pitch, he saw a team conquer fear itself with an Unbeaten Season, new players and a new sense of common purpose. Yes, we can.
When the cranes arrived at Highbury and takeover threatened, he was there to witness a stadium rise to greatness and a club was saved. Yes, we can.
He was there for Alan Sunderland’s winner at Wembley, Charlie George’s sliding celebration, the tragic death of David Rocastle, and a preacher from Strasbourg who told a people that “we shall overcome”. Yes, we can.
A man broke our all-time goalscoring record, Highbury came down, a team was created by science and imagination. And this year, in this season, he logged on to a poll about Arsenal’s captaincy, and cast his vote, because after 106 years with Arsenal, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, he knows how Arsenal can change. Yes, we can.
Arsenal, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves - if Cesc should still be here in two, or even three seasons time; if I should have a son lucky enough to see a Cesc Fabregas-led side in 2015, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?
This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment.
This is our time - to put our players back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of beautiful football; to reclaim the Arsenal dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism and doubt, and those who tell us that we can’t, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a club: yes, we can.
Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless Arsenal Football Club. Aaaaaah, memories.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 30, 2008 20:22:31 GMT -5
What a win, what a mighty good win. Chelsea were more threatning in the first half, although we did ok. Once we scored and took the lead, we dominated and could have/should have had a third.
Denilson is shit though, pure shit. And Ade continues to frustrate me. Wenger should dock a weeks wages everytime he's offside, that'll teach him.
And I don't care if RVP's first was offside, JT should have been sent off. Swings and round abouts. Chelsea were simply not good enough on the day. Oh, and Drogba should be docked wages too for listening to his ipod in the stands....again. I have no respect for that fool.
But hey, we're clinging to the the title race by a thread. Now lets go on a winning run.
If Liverpool drop points tomorrow, 7 points out with so many games to go isn't too too bad, considering. COME ON!
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Post by Moorish on Dec 1, 2008 7:22:06 GMT -5
Was a great win indeed. Couldn't give a flying toss about RVP's offside, I still remember the perfectly good goal against Chelsea he had disallowed for offside in 2005, not to mention the offside goals Drogba has scored against us over the last couple of years. Good job, line-o!
We won't win the league, though. It would take a miracle and we just aren't consistent enough. But we can have a bloody good tilt at it and play for a bit of pride. If we finish in the top 3 and have a good go at some cups then that will be impressive, considering how shit we've been in large patches so far this season.
Next weekend is important. We had a great result against United quickly followed by a couple of shit ones. We need to turn Wigan over as a statement of intent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 17:15:47 GMT -5
looks like villa is gonna be a big game for you
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Post by oioioi on Dec 21, 2008 17:32:24 GMT -5
Shut up Ross
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Post by oioioi on Dec 21, 2008 17:32:33 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 24, 2008 0:17:18 GMT -5
With Fabregas out for 4 months (essentially the rest of the season), we're now truly fucked.
It's amazing we're still clinging onto a title race, but only barely. Been a weird season across the league: Close at the top, Spurs and Man City (richest team, too!) in a relegation battle, Blackburn could actually go down, Hull doing incredibly well, and Villa fighting for 4th. At least it's engaging!
Arsenal will probably finish 4th, but again I'm keeping up hope remembering that in 1997/98 Arsenal were 13 points behind Man Utd (albeit with a couple games in hand) as late as the Spring, and won it. This Arsenal team I dont think has the quality and, most importantly, the mentality to do it, but we'll see.
No matter what, AW needs to spend. Both in January and the Summer.
He should pick up experienced CB and DM (and now maybe a AMC to help with the Cesc loss); those 2-3 signings should clinch 4th at least.
In the summer, he should then buy a proper MR, GK, and possibly another striker (too soon to see how Eduardo, Walcott, Vela (he's gonna be amazing, mind) get on.....Bendtner is shit)
If he pieces those signings like that, he'll have a stable and good team by next season, and will finally be back on course for silverware, but he's gonna need to buy.
Imagine:
-----------Someone like Frey-------
----Sagna-----Toure-----Someone like Mexes ----Clichy-----
---Someone like (??) ----Fabregas ----Someone like Yaya Toure ----Nasri---
-------v. Persie------Adebayor-------
Subs: 1.) Fabianski 2.) Djourou 3.) Ramsey 4.) Walcott 5.) Vela 6.) Denilson 7.) Someone like Arshavin --- 8.) Diaby (heh maybe keep him?) 9.) Eduardo (lets see how he responds from the injury) 10.) Wilshere
By doing that, you have installed the experience and quality needed, and at the same time doesn't impede on the youngsters.
If Wenger plays this right, he could get himself out of the trouble he's gotten himself into
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Post by MG on Dec 24, 2008 10:22:12 GMT -5
It's not Championship Manager mate, not so easy to buy players
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 26, 2008 14:35:18 GMT -5
God damn it Wenger.
I don't remember when Arsenal were this bad......1995?
Even though they both scored today, I have no idea what Arsene sees in Denilson or Diaby. Or Song. Or Eboue. Nasri had a horrendous game.
Why the fuck was Diaby playing behind RVP? We have Vela on the fucking bench, use the Mexican ffs.
Again, this is the worst team under Wenger - capable of a few good performances, but overall are just utter shit. He's living off his past success, and if he doesn't sort it out, he's putting his legacy in jeaopardy.
I'm still in shock how AW was able to destroy this team. His stubborn policy is inexcusable. The kids have failed, time to give up this useless experiement, Arsene.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Dec 26, 2008 14:47:05 GMT -5
The kids have failed, time to give up this useless experiement, Arsene. As prone as you are to erratic mood swings, I think you're hitting the nail on the head when it comes to Arsenal's current side. The squad hasn't been this poor in at least a decade (and certainly not during Arsene Wenger's reign), and unless he pulls his stubborn head out of the sand, he's going to find himself on the wrong end of a major backlash from an ever-growing number of Arsenal supporters. No manager is exempt from criticism. Not Wenger. Not even Sir Alex.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 26, 2008 21:48:43 GMT -5
The kids have failed, time to give up this useless experiement, Arsene. As prone as you are to erratic mood swings, I think you're hitting the nail on the head when it comes to Arsenal's current side. The squad hasn't been this poor in at least a decade (and certainly not during Arsene Wenger's reign), and unless he pulls his stubborn head out of the sand, he's going to find himself on the wrong end of a major backlash from an ever-growing number of Arsenal supporters. No manager is exempt from criticism. Not Wenger. Not even Sir Alex. Yup. I admit me calling for Wenger's head the other month was a bit too extreme. Wenger is still a good manager, you don't become a bad coach over night. BUT it's his stuborness which is his downfall. Wenger can turn it around, I have no doubt about that, but he has to admit this side has failed and change his policy to do so. Forcing this team to work in order to prove the doubters wrong, is not right. If the latter goes on for anohter year, then it will be time for Wenger to walk. And I would HATE to see Arsene leave. I grew up with him. Hell, I would love him to be at the club for 20+ years, just like SAF has been at Utd, but he's gonna need to change some things.....
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Post by Moorish on Dec 27, 2008 15:27:45 GMT -5
Yup. I admit me calling for Wenger's head the other month was a bit too extreme. Wenger is still a good manager, you don't become a bad coach over night. BUT it's his stuborness which is his downfall. Wenger can turn it around, I have no doubt about that, but he has to admit this side has failed and change his policy to do so. Forcing this team to work in order to prove the doubters wrong, is not right. If the latter goes on for anohter year, then it will be time for Wenger to walk. And I would HATE to see Arsene leave. I grew up with him. Hell, I would love him to be at the club for 20+ years, just like SAF has been at Utd, but he's gonna need to change some things..... A bit of reasoned thinking L4E, kudos. The reality of things is that the team is unbalanced and the squad is thin. And yes, Arsene has to wear the blame for all of this. Totally. HOWEVER - if he leaves then we are well and truly FUCKED, fucked in a way beyond measure. The one world class player we do have - Cesc - will follow him out the door in a heartbeat. What we need is for him to wake up and realise this team isn't good enough. The experiment has been noble and all that, but last season was the best that side had in them; they led the lead for a long time but fell short due to lack of experience and grinding out results in games you need to win (whether you deserve to or not). And whatever you say, his "legacy" is not in jeopardy. It's the PAST! If Fergie had a couple of shit seasons at Man Ure and then left would fans look back and say "his legacy is shit". No! They'd say "he was the best manager we ever had, yeah he tailed off at the end there but who doesn't?" His legacy will always be intact, and that should not be in doubt. It's whether he can add to it in any way that is the $64,000 question. And the answer unfortunately is: Not Without Surgery On The Team. SIGNING PLEASE. Seriously, we fucking need them; the squad was already horribly thin. And at the moment we have an Arsenal side that cannot defend. Unacceptable.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 3, 2009 4:07:33 GMT -5
I just don't understand how Wenger could let it get this bad.
We didn't have a great squad by any means last year, but we were SO close to victory. And I truly, 100% believe that if Eduardo and the Birmingham disaster didn't happen, we would have won the league. But it did happen. And despite it happening, we only finished a few points out of first!
Wenger should have added 1-2 more players from last year, and we would have been complete.
But he fucked it all up. Actually, he more than fucked it up. There's no words to describe the massive mistake(s) Wenger made since then.
Ok, he didn't fully know the situation when he let Diarra leave. But then he let Gilberto AND Flamini leave, too. AND NEVER REPLACED ANY OF THE 3!!!!!!
And he also let Hleb leave. And while I LOVE Hleb's technical skills, we need a MR who can SCORE. Eboue is not the answer, and nor is Theo - who will be a striker soon enough.
It does my head in. It really does. How can such a great manager, and make no mistake about it Wenger is more than great, be so short sighted and naive?
We need a DM and DC deperatley.
And it pisses me off even more with the TRUE rumors of Toure wanting to leave because of 'Asshole' Gallas. Toure is Mr. Arsenal imo. He should be captain, no doubt in my mind. I fuckin love Kolo. It's ashame he hasn't been the same player since the ACN/Malaria, but he's Arsenal through and through, and for Gallas to push him out makes me even more pissed off at Willy.
We need to get rid of Gallas, he's hurting the team so badly. What an assclown.
But why, Wenger, didn't you keep last years team together and add 1-2 experience players to the mix in the summer? We've taken many steps backward this seaosn when we were SO close last year.
SORT IT OUT, OR GET THE FUCK OUT
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 3, 2009 4:13:58 GMT -5
Oh and btw those who make the argument that "Wenger has done so much for Arsenal so he deserves to stay" need to fuck off right now.
Currently Wenger is living off of your premise - he's living off of his past success.
Sorry, that's not good enough. While I love Wenger, and while I appreciate what he's done so far and what he COULD do in the future, living off of past success is not good enough. HERE AND NOW is what matters. If he can't deliever the goods any more, we need to find someone who can.....
But lets give AW a chance. He's been sticking with youth policy since 2005, and it's only now in 2008 (2009) that we reach the realization its a 100% failure. If he tries to correct it, then we can give him a chance, but I can't say it any more times that if he continues with this failed policy and doesn't accept his failure then he NEEDS TO GO ASAP.
If he does any more damage to this team, we're going to be transformed to a midtable team, like that of the mid 1990s. We're on a very thin line right now, and AW needs to accept that.....
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Post by lionsden® on Jan 3, 2009 10:44:39 GMT -5
What is with all this "we" talk? Are you on the team or something?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 4, 2009 4:37:06 GMT -5
What is with all this "we" talk? Are you on the team or something? It's called the royal we, and for your stupidity I think you should hand over Caro to me. She deserves better.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jan 6, 2009 12:50:38 GMT -5
What is with all this "we" talk? Are you on the team or something? Don't you start that shite in here.
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Post by Moorish on Jan 7, 2009 7:11:12 GMT -5
SORT IT OUT, OR GET THE FUCK OUT ....And we're back to the bullshit. You trot this out with boring regularity. So I'll ask again: WHO SHOULD WE GET TO REPLACE HIM? You have come up with zero suggestions on this front. Your trophy-hungry short-sightedness has nowt backing it up. And you can't say the kids are a 100% failure. You wouldn't say George Bush was a 100% failure just because the results of what he'd done in the last few years of his Presidency were unpopular, would you?
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Post by Fecksticles on Jan 7, 2009 9:20:12 GMT -5
Not all this shit from l4evr again...
Arsenal are punching above their weight. Have been for the past decade. They've simply not got the finances to compete fully with United and Chelsea year in year out. Whilst Wenger is very fond of the youth policy, reality is it's his only option in the main.
Last season 4 points off the championship. Good CL run this year.
I wouldn't want any other manager put in. You're making Wenger a victim of his own success, put in a new manager and I'll show you a club who will drift to mid-table mediocrity.
money, money, money... If AW were at Chelsea and had Hleb, Hleb would not have left. But it's Arsenal and cash does not flow as freely.
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Post by Moorish on Jan 8, 2009 5:05:05 GMT -5
I like the reasoning that we miss Hleb because we need a scoring midfiedler. The guy was terrified of shooting!! 11 goals in 3 seasons is a shit return for an attacking midfielder.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jan 8, 2009 7:20:09 GMT -5
I like the reasoning that we miss Hleb because we need a scoring midfielder. The guy was terrified of shooting!! 11 goals in 3 seasons is a shit return for an attacking midfielder. I always thought Hleb was shite. Almost as bad as Nani.
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Post by MisterSupernova on Jan 12, 2009 12:21:06 GMT -5
Just because Arsenal are going through a bad patch, doesn't mean you should sack Wenger. That would make your current situation waay worse. Teams would kill to have a manager like Wenger leading their team. He turned Henry from an average winger to a world class striker, and only few managers have ever really done that sucessfully.
For me, Arsenal's problem is that their too forgein. This may sound nuts but the teamsheet week in week out is full of French, African, Spainish and Dutch players, which okay is the case with most other teams, but Arsenal do not have any real first team English players bar Walcott. Best put, my dad put it across as 'Arsenals biggest mistake was selling Matthew Upson'. Now, if your first thought was along the lines of 'What the fu..?' that was exactly what I thought when I heard it but there is reason to it. Look at the Top 4's teamsheets and note where Arsenal are different. In their defense they have Gallas and Toure. Liverpool have Carragher and Agger or Skrtel, Chelsea have Terry and Alex whilst Man United have Ferdinand and Vidic. There is one leading English centre back who you know are going to give one hundred percent to the team. I know as a Liverpool fan Carragher is going to put his heart and soul in making sure Liverpool have a clean sheet, much like United and Chelsea would in Ferdinand and Terry. Arsenal don't have that. Okay, both of their defenders have plenty of experience and are good, of course. You could even say they were better defenders than Adams, I couldn't because I too young to reL4E Member or note how good Adams was at his prime. However, you can be damned sure Adams showed more passion to play for Arsenal than Toure ever did, only because Adams was a local boy, much like Upson who again is far from the defender Toure is. This isn't something genetic, but French children don't kick a ball on the streets and pretend they've won the English Premier League or La Liga. Its local passion and pride. Whilst you can buy a more skillfull forgien player much cheaper than a English one, you can't give that forgein player the passion to succeed in a country he's not from.
Of course they need to spend into their defense, experience and more world class on a tight budjet, you can't deny those things, but this is merely my opinion on the current situation.
(For the record, I do recognise Ferdinand does not come from Manchester and is subject to a lot of money moves but whether that taints the argument is your decision)
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 28, 2009 16:32:49 GMT -5
Losing to Everton 1-0 at the time of writing this.
This is inexcusable. LDSMD, you call this simply a "bad patch"? No. It was a bad patch in 2006 and 2007. This is a crisis on epic proportions now. This team is simply not good enough. And we're now destined to finish 5th, and possibly even 6th.
I suggest sacking Wenger because this is his entire doing. We were 4 points off from being Champions last season, but instead of adding 1-2 players to make that difference, he completly DESTROYED the team. Then we entered January, and the board said he had money to spend. We desperatley need a DM and a DC, those two positions should be our priority. But nope, stubborn Arsene wanted an attacking player and thus wanted Arshavin. Now it doesn't even look like we're going to get him.
Something went wrong with Wenger since 2005. I don't know what, but this is not the Wenger that ruled from 1997-2005. I don't mean simply he hasn't won trophies, but there's something deeper mentally effecting him. His stubborness and belief in the failed youth experiment boggles my mind.
But hey, all you fools who don't think Wenger should be sacked based on his prior success, I hope you will like watching Arsenal become a mid table team, and no CL Football.
He's failed his most recent test in strengthening the team this January transfer window to ensure we finish in the top 4. He thinks it's a forgone conclusion we'll get atleast 4th. Well, with the performance and result today, that's obviously not the case. This is just one of many failing since 2005, and it's gone far enough.
I said that if he didn't do anything to fix this problem, then he must leave. There's no sign of the former, so he better get his bags ready. Arsehole Wenger.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 28, 2009 16:40:51 GMT -5
Oh and yes he's destroying his legacy. Those people who think otherwise are off their rocker. If he doesn't find a quick remedy to the situation he'll be remembered as split rule: 1997-2005 successful, 2005-2011(?) failure
Put it this way, transpose his management from 2005-present from when he began in 1996. So lets hypothetically assume that from 1996-2000 he won 0 trophies, and finished 3rd or 4th every season. My guess is, he would have been sacked - ok, a vast improvement from the mid 1990s, but not really successful, either.
You have to stop living off of past success. We're seeing the exact problem now with the board granting Wenger a position for life. This means that there's no pressure on Wenger, and he can afford to stick by with a stubborn failed policy.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 28, 2009 16:53:44 GMT -5
And how about the prospect of our only world class player, which is sad in itself that we only have 1, Cesc Fabregas, walking away if nothing changes soon.
Wenger built Arsenal, and now he's destroyed them. This is pathetic.
[Arsenal 1-1 Everton] hahaha. My points still remain
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