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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 13, 2008 2:37:35 GMT -5
Last years Arsenal thread got to 11 pages, signifying that there's many Arsenal fans, and probably even more Arsenal haters on this forum. With Arsenal kicking off their season tonight in the first leg of the CL qualifier vs. FC Twente, and WBA in the Prem in a few days time, I think it would be a good idea to start this thread up. ---- I think we're in better shape than last year as long as we buy a proper DM.....Nasri should be better than Alexander "Shoot the fucking ball" Hleb, Inler (if we buy him) could provide the muscle in the middle of the park (I never really rated Flamoney), RVP has looked sharp in pre season, Vela looks quality - much better than Bendtner, and Ramsey has impressed too, although he's a tad too young still. Frankly, I would love to see AW buy 3 players: -GK (I still dont trust Almunia) -DC (Senderos is shaky and a better man's Cygan, we need more cover) -DM (replacement for Flamini/Gilbero) Sadly, we all know that AW is only going to buy 1 player, and we all know its gonna be a DM (Alonso, Inler spring to mind). Why he still has faith in Senderos is beyond me, and why he wont find anyone better than Almunia irritates me....Almunia reminds me a lot of Richard Wright, and that's not a good thing! Anyway, we'll put up a fight this season, and it's IMPERATIVE we win something. Arsene Wenger's Red and White Army
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Post by MG on Aug 13, 2008 6:41:47 GMT -5
Arsenal will not be as good as last year, pre-seaon new signings doesn't really mean anything, Volorinon anyone??? They lack good a keeper, have a very good defence but no cover. Flamini will be a loss as well Helb so half their midfield is gone. With Edwardo out and van Persie injury prone they'll be relying on Adabyabor again this season.
I can see them slipping out of th top 3/4
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Post by tezza202 on Aug 13, 2008 9:38:11 GMT -5
Don't Arsenal have a few regulars out tonight? Could be tricky.. I'll be cheering on Mac.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 13, 2008 10:16:19 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 13, 2008 13:07:51 GMT -5
Fabregas is my boy. Sad he's not playing tonight. He's been my favorite player since he broke into the first time (and that's even with Henry still there, albeit past his peak). Cesc is the man, and is by far the best AM in the Prem. His vision and intelligence along with his passing ability and determination make him a God.
The last 8 years Arsenal were built around TH14, this is now Cesc's team, and he's both literally and figuatively the center of it.
Love that kid.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 13, 2008 13:21:19 GMT -5
Cesc is the man, and is by far the best AM in the Prem. His vision and intelligence along with his passing ability and determination make him a God. The last 8 years Arsenal were built around TH14, this is now Cesc's team, and he's both literally and figuratively the center of it. I almost agree with you. He's a great player, no question, and one of the best players in English football. I'd stop short of saying he's 'by far' the best attacking midfielder in the Premiership, mind. Bear in mind we're talking about a Premiership which contains players like Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, and Paul Scholes (who, regardless of age, is still one of the most adept passers of a football on planet earth). Beyond that you've got players like Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, and to a lesser extent Mikael Arteta and David Bentley, all of whom - whilst not on Fabregas' level - are nothing short of brilliant when they're playing to their abilities.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 17:00:05 GMT -5
should have been last season, if only we had been given the penalty against pompey
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 13, 2008 17:20:27 GMT -5
Aye. And the season before, we were a mere three games from achieving greatness (again).
It's coming, folks.
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Post by Moorish on Aug 14, 2008 11:10:40 GMT -5
I think we're in better shape than last year as long as we buy a proper DM.....Nasri should be better than Alexander "Shoot the fucking ball" Hleb, Inler (if we buy him) could provide the muscle in the middle of the park (I never really rated Flamoney), RVP has looked sharp in pre season, Vela looks quality - much better than Bendtner, and Ramsey has impressed too, although he's a tad too young still. We don't look stronger than last season, for me. We have let players with experience walk out the door and as usual just replaced them with kids. Not rating Flamini?! He was our player of the season last year!! If you think Cesc looked good it's becuase not only is he fantastic but because Mattuso gave him license to be so. If we get any more stories this season about how much money the club earns I will get fucking annoyed. Spend some of it Arsene, if it's there!!!
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Post by MG on Aug 20, 2008 16:46:58 GMT -5
*Cue live4evr rant ;d A decent player but getting old now and is mistake & injury prone. Thanks for the memories Mikeal
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 20, 2008 16:51:09 GMT -5
Nice one, Tweety.
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Post by tezza202 on Aug 24, 2008 11:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by MG on Aug 24, 2008 13:04:57 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 30, 2008 19:04:14 GMT -5
I'm still furious. 4-2 up with 10mins to go, a team like Arsenal should not throw it away to a team like Spurs. Moreover, Spurs didn't deserve anything from this game, they were played off the park.
Arsenal will not win the league this season. Nor do they deserve to. So frustrating. When will Arsene learn that his youth policy that he has adopted for the past 3 years is an utter failure. Sort it out Arsene.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 19:09:26 GMT -5
arsene is a legend and i think he should be given far more respect from some of his own fans.
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Post by Moorish on Oct 31, 2008 6:07:31 GMT -5
arsene is a legend and i think he should be given far more respect from some of his own fans. SPOT - FUCKING - ON, Ross. Pay attention, Notorious Whinge-about-Arsenal-er. It was a shit result and the boys should be fucking embarassed as much as anything else. I don't think we'll win the league this season by any stretch. But to say it's all been a "total failure"? Fucking mug up and do some supporting. If you want to be fickle and whinge all the time, and then sing the side's praises when we get a good result, you should be supporting Spurs. That's how they do things over there.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Oct 31, 2008 7:24:28 GMT -5
When will Arsene learn that his youth policy that he has adopted for the past 3 years is an utter failure. Whilst I agree that Arsene Wenger deserves the respect of every Arsenal fan, I don't think that this assessment is too wide of the mark. Arsenal's biggest problem over the past three years has been in their inability to finish a game off, to hold on to a lead. We saw it again on Wednesday night. This is, by and large, the result of inexperience, caused primarily by Wenger's insistence on fielding young players. Manchester United have achieved a good balance of youth and experience, one which I feel Arsene Wenger is, to some extent, attempting to emulate. His problem, however, lies in attributing that experience to players such as Manuel Almunia, William Gallas, Kolo Toure, and now even Mikael Silvestre - none of whom can truly be relied upon to guide their teammates in the right direction as and when it's required. Gallas, in particular. Wenger's decision to name him captain is continually mystifying. Simply put, Arsenal are a talented side. They just don't have a backbone.
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Post by Moorish on Oct 31, 2008 9:05:48 GMT -5
When will Arsene learn that his youth policy that he has adopted for the past 3 years is an utter failure. Whilst I agree that Arsene Wenger deserves the respect of every Arsenal fan, I don't think that this assessment is too wide of the mark. Arsenal's biggest problem over the past three years has been in their inability to finish a game off, to hold on to a lead. We saw it again on Wednesday night. This is, by and large, the result of inexperience, caused primarily by Wenger's insistence on fielding young players. Manchester United have achieved a good balance of youth and experience, one which I feel Arsene Wenger is, to some extent, attempting to emulate. His problem, however, lies in attributing that experience to players such as Manuel Almunia, William Gallas, Kolo Toure, and now even Mikael Silvestre - none of whom can truly be relied upon to guide their teammates in the right direction as and when it's required. Gallas, in particular. Wenger's decision to name him captain is continually mystifying. Simply put, Arsenal are a talented side. They just don't have a backbone. Wouldn't disagree with that; Man Utd and Chelsea have excellent teams. I think for Arsenal to be where we are, on a fraction of the money those clubs can afford to shell out, is brilliant. But I'd love a tough nut central midfielder and a centre half who isn't too old or fucking tempremental to jump for a ball and get stuck in.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 1, 2008 13:07:09 GMT -5
That's the final nail in the coffin. No chance of the title now. Wenger has lost the plot this season. And he is the one to blame. We ALL saw the signs in the summer - we needed a proper DM, a quality CB, and a GK....none of which Wenger found. We also needed a change in captain as Gallas is pathetic. That didn't happen either.
Then we see him make team selection problems - Song has no business putting on an Arsenal shirt. Why did he leave RVP, and Walcott out today? Diaby was our oldest starting midfielder today at age 22....how the fuck that seemed like a good decision is beyond me.
I'm furious. We'll be lucky if we finish within the top 4 this season. Damn it Wenger.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 1, 2008 14:55:06 GMT -5
That's the final nail in the coffin. No chance of the title now. You're only six points adrift, mate. Let's not go mad.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 2, 2008 16:24:10 GMT -5
Arseblog wrote this today, and he's 100% right. In fact, I said the same thing many times before: ------------ I can look at this Arsenal squad and when I think back to the pools of players Wenger has had at his disposal over the years it is, unquestionably, the poorest squad he has ever had. It lacks quality, leadership and experience. Put the squads side by side on paper and weep. I find it incredibly sad that Arsene can look at the players he's got and think they're anything like any of the squads he's had before. ------------
That's 100% correct, in all departments of the squad - Goalkeeper right through the strikers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2008 16:45:20 GMT -5
always gonna be a dip, you got a new stadium and decided its better not to spend money you don't have and end up like leeds.
you will finish in the top 4 and one day you might actually appreciate what arsene has done. it wasn't to long ago when people wrote of ferguson
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Post by Moorish on Nov 3, 2008 4:31:08 GMT -5
Arseblog wrote this today, and he's 100% right. In fact, I said the same thing many times before: ------------ I can look at this Arsenal squad and when I think back to the pools of players Wenger has had at his disposal over the years it is, unquestionably, the poorest squad he has ever had. It lacks quality, leadership and experience. Put the squads side by side on paper and weep. I find it incredibly sad that Arsene can look at the players he's got and think they're anything like any of the squads he's had before. ------------ That's 100% correct, in all departments of the squad - Goalkeeper right through the strikers. Arseblogger also wrote the below. REGARD: "As fans I suppose we can play our part as well. As much as we have our grievances with the players and the performances of late there's little to be gained from vocalising those at the games. With confidence so low they need our help. We all know there are problems and bitching about them on the internet is wonderfully cathartic/rampantly tedious/utterly pointless/great fun - delete where appropriate. However, you support the Arsenal in good times and bad. For some younger fans this may be as bad as they've ever seen it but it's been much worse than this. Much worse.If we can do our bit to help get them back on track then that's what we should do. It's not easy but they do say in times of crisis you see what people are really made of. Let's show those who call us spineless and taunt us about getting our players sent off that we do have a spine. It might be somewhat brittle and in need of rebuilding but we're not dead and buried just yet. Remember, we're Arsenal fans."
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 7, 2008 20:14:23 GMT -5
IF Arsenal beat Utd tomorrow, we'll have one foot back in the title race. If we then beat Chelsea a couple weeks from now, we'll be right back in it.
So this is the month - if we beat both Chelsea and Utd, then we're back in it. Gonna be tough, but Wenger's 1997/98 team had the mentality in the Spring of 1998, let's hope Arsene's third team has the same mentality here in the fall of 2008......
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 7, 2008 20:15:09 GMT -5
OH, and I'll always support the Arsenal. Even if we get relegated sometime in my life, I'll still support them thick and thin. But you need to be critical of your team too, at times.....
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