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Post by cloudburster on Aug 4, 2008 10:16:14 GMT -5
Been listening to this album a lot recently, it really is an underrated album with some of Noel's best ever work. Okay, it has two terrible songs (I Can See A Liar, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is) but songs such as Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, Where Did It All Go Wrong, Sunday Morning Call and Roll It Over are some of Noel's best songs, lyrics and melodies. I also think Who Feels Love may be the most underrated song of all time - the lyrics are amazing, Liam's vocals are brilliant and the production is just top-notch  . Little James is a bit of an underrated song too. Yeah, the lyrics are poor in parts (which I think is done intentionally to relate to the child he is talking to) but Liam's vocals are simply outstanding and the line "Thank you for your smile, you make it all worthwile" is one of the most tender lines you'll hear in an Oasis song. Overall, I think this album is one of the best Oasis albums, and is hugely underrated. It was born through some immensely tough times (band members leaving, critical back lash from Be Here Now, Noel quitting cocaine) and I think Oasis, and their fans, should be proud of it. |
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 4, 2008 10:18:57 GMT -5
Forgot to mention, it also has the coolest album cover (bar Dig Out Your Soul). Apparently the photographer took a photo of New York every hour for 18 hours in a row and then blended them all together so it is impossible to tell what time of day it is
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Post by puretone on Aug 4, 2008 10:23:53 GMT -5
Yeah I liked it. They were trying some different shit on it aswell unlike HC & DBTT which were mostly predictable boring shit.
Fucking In The Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love
Gas Painc
Where Did It All Go Wrong
Sunday Morning Call
Roll It Over
All great. They also had a few nice b-sides leftover aswell like lets all make believe.
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Post by Mad Dog Tannen on Aug 4, 2008 10:24:19 GMT -5
Fucking great album - and it pisses me off how it always gets shit on,and people who say Heathen Chemistry (half decent half shite) is better need the heads looking at.
The only changes I would make are taking I Can See A Liar and Little James and replacing them with Lets All Make Believe and a Liam sang Revolution Song. Fucking In The Bushes, Go Let It Out, Who Feels Love, Gas Panic and Sunday Morning Call are all mega tunes. For me its in the top 3 Oasis albums
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 4, 2008 10:26:35 GMT -5
Yep, it's my third favourite Oasis album. ANOTHER thing I forgot to mention - I also think all the b-sides from this album are bloody fantastic. One Way Road, Let's All Make Believe, Full On, Carry Us All, Cigarettes In Hell...all brilliant. It has the best b-sides for any Oasis album except for Morning Glory and possibly Definitely Maybe (although it was only really Cigarettes And Alcohol that had great b-sides from that album)
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Aug 4, 2008 10:37:25 GMT -5
I love the ambition Noel showed with SOTSOG, as far as incorporating alot of electronica for the first time in their music. However, I look at that album like a beautifully polished pile of shit. Granted there are some great tunes like Gas Panic, Roll It Over and Where Did It All Go Wrong
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Post by l41n on Aug 4, 2008 10:46:54 GMT -5
For me, Standing is the 2nd best Oasis album...
1. Definitely Maybe
2. Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
3. Be Here Now
4. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
5. Don't Believe The Truth
6. Heathen Chemistry
Yeah alot of you (if not all) will disagree with that, but SOTSOG is a truly great album. Replace PYMWYMI and ICSAL with Let's All Make Believe and Full On. A mature, thoughtful album light years away from some of the trash on Heathen.
Ideally, Oasis should have combined The Masterplan with Be Here Now, left SOTSOG and combined Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 4, 2008 10:52:50 GMT -5
It grates on me that people dislike SOTSOG. Granted, it has it's weaker moments, but even songs like I Can See A Liar and Little James are not without their merits. In my book, the only undeniably awful song to come out of the SOTSOG era was Carry Us All.
People also forget that this album was released during a very testing time for the band - major lineup changes, major lifestyle changes - and to put out an album of SOTSOG's quality is nothing short of remarkable.
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Post by l41n on Aug 4, 2008 10:54:05 GMT -5
As Noel said:
I worked harder on that album than anything before or anything since
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 4, 2008 10:54:40 GMT -5
Jesus Christmas, we've discussed this topic to death last week, in multiple threads.
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Post by l41n on Aug 4, 2008 10:56:53 GMT -5
Strange how it took Be Here Now ten years before people began to review their verdicts and said it had aged well. Seems to be the same for SOTSOG.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 4, 2008 10:58:25 GMT -5
Jesus Christmas, we've discussed this topic to death last week, in multiple threads. If you don't like it, then don't interject. It's pretty simple logic. You'd think with all the shite threads on here (a few of which you're bloody well responsible for) you'd be glad of a bit of proper Oasis banter. |
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Post by Soldier Ron on Aug 4, 2008 11:26:19 GMT -5
I'm genuinely glad people are praising this album - the critics never will come around to it but who gives a flying fuck about them any way - and any thread bigging up SOTSOG is fine by me.
I've loved it from day one, and I'll be listening to it till the day I die. The bass playing on Gas Panic alone shows more creativity than the entirety of the wholly mediocre and humdrum HC.
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Post by honeypie on Aug 4, 2008 11:44:05 GMT -5
hangover from the coke album ... not enough recovery time.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 4, 2008 11:51:42 GMT -5
This is an appreciation society.
If you want to slag it off, start a DEpreciation society and leave us the hell alone.
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Post by mostdefomaybe on Aug 4, 2008 13:50:12 GMT -5
Their fourth best album for me
underrated
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Post by saintoasis on Aug 4, 2008 14:41:40 GMT -5
I undersatand in life there's always people who wanna go against the system or general consensus, and 'be different'. I can only assume that the people here who are rating SOTSOG ahead of Morning Glory are such people who want attention because its plain fucking stupid to say so. There's no competition.
Just to add i like SOTSOG, - GP, GLIT, FITB, WDIAGW are classics and is underrated but is still not close to DM and MG.
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Post by jasonbourne on Aug 4, 2008 14:42:52 GMT -5
I undersatand in life there's always people who wanna go against the system or general consensus, and 'be different'. I can only assume that the people here who are rating SOTSOG ahead of Morning Glory are such people who want attention because its plain fucking stupid to say so. There's no competition. Just to add i like SOTSOG, - GP, GLIT, FITB, WDIAGW are classics and is underrated but is still not close to DM and MG. Exactly. |
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Post by l41n on Aug 4, 2008 14:53:34 GMT -5
I undersatand in life there's always people who wanna go against the system or general consensus, and 'be different'. I can only assume that the people here who are rating SOTSOG ahead of Morning Glory are such people who want attention because its plain fucking stupid to say so. There's no competition. Just to add i like SOTSOG, - GP, GLIT, FITB, WDIAGW are classics and is underrated but is still not close to DM and MG. No, it's got nothing to do with wanting 'attention'. It's an opinion, get used to it. You have yours, I respect it...so respect mine. |
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Post by saintoasis on Aug 4, 2008 15:01:34 GMT -5
I undersatand in life there's always people who wanna go against the system or general consensus, and 'be different'. I can only assume that the people here who are rating SOTSOG ahead of Morning Glory are such people who want attention because its plain fucking stupid to say so. There's no competition. Just to add i like SOTSOG, - GP, GLIT, FITB, WDIAGW are classics and is underrated but is still not close to DM and MG. No, it's got nothing to do with wanting 'attention'. It's an opinion, get used to it. You have yours, I respect it...so respect mine. Fair enough. Just to clear this up though, you'd would prefer to listen to little james than wonderwall, WDIAGW than DLBIA, RIO than Champagne Supernova, ICSAL than SMS, etc... I know GP and GLIO are as good as songs on MG but as an album as a whole, SERIOUSLY?! |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Aug 4, 2008 15:08:27 GMT -5
No, it's got nothing to do with wanting 'attention'. It's an opinion, get used to it. You have yours, I respect it...so respect mine. Fair enough. Just to clear this up though, you'd would prefer to listen to little james than wonderwall, WDIAGW than DLBIA, RIO than Champagne Supernova, ICSAL than SMS, etc... I know GP and GLIO are as good as songs on MG but as an album as a whole, SERIOUSLY?! Don't forget the timeless Put Yer Money over Morning Glory  |
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Post by l41n on Aug 4, 2008 15:08:31 GMT -5
Fair enough. Just to clear this up though, you'd would prefer to listen to little james than wonderwall, WDIAGW than DLBIA, RIO than Champagne Supernova, ICSAL than SMS, etc... I know GP and GLIO are as good as songs on MG but as an album as a whole, SERIOUSLY?! No I'd rather listen to Gas Panic, Who Feels Love?, Roll It Over, Go Let It Out, Sunday Morning Call, and Where Did It All Go Wrong? over any track on WTSMG other than Champagne Supernova and Don't Look Back In Anger. As they are definitive Oasis songs, Liam's and Noel's magnus opus respectively. WTSMG is very patchy I think. |
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Post by keystone1316 on Aug 4, 2008 16:04:14 GMT -5
Fair enough. Just to clear this up though, you'd would prefer to listen to little james than wonderwall, WDIAGW than DLBIA, RIO than Champagne Supernova, ICSAL than SMS, etc... I know GP and GLIO are as good as songs on MG but as an album as a whole, SERIOUSLY?! WTSMG is very patchy I think. Agreed. I still dont see why WTSMG is considered such a great album. For me... the WTSMG bsides are much more interesting than some of the album tracks. Here's a track-by-track analysis, based on my personal thoughts 1. FITB>Hello (FITB works wayyy better as an opener than Hello, and I enjoy it more) 2. Go Let It Out>Roll With It (By a little bit) 3. Who Feels Love<Wonderwall 4. PYMWYMI<DLBIA 5. Little James>Hey Now (Yeap... I like LJ way better as a song, regardless of the lyrics) 6. Gas Panic>Some Might Say (By such a slim margin... but GP has fantastic lyrics and is just fantastic) 7. WDIAGW>Cast No Shadow (WDIAGW is imo, the most underrated Oasis track, and it might be my fave on SOTSOG) 8. Sunday Morning Call<She's Electric (almost gave this one to SMC, but She's Electric is a funner listen) 9. I Can See a Liar<Morning Glory 10. Roll It Over<Champagne Supernova By my count... thats 5-5. Not the best way to compare an album I admit, but it just goes to show that WTSMG is far from a perfect album, and when people say "Nothing after BHN can even compare to WTSMG"... thats simply not true The Bsides for WTSMG do it for me... the albums overrated... |
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 4, 2008 16:05:14 GMT -5
Very happy this album is getting praise. As time goes on I like it more and more. I'm only a member a short while but it seems SOTSOG is being discussed a lot since I've been here.
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Post by quellophant on Aug 4, 2008 16:06:38 GMT -5
I hope in time people like this album more and realise how poor dbtt was...
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