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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 9, 2008 14:25:05 GMT -5
There is no fake Oasis Heady (can I call you that). But as an american you can't relate to some of the deeper aspects in the oasis songs that are quintessentially British. Sorry mate...bit of a blow What? You heard ...ah Basil Fawlty I can't relate to some Oasis songs? What are you talking about? First off, don't tell me what I can and cant relate to, I think i know better than you. Secondly, give me an example. |
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Post by Cast on May 9, 2008 15:16:44 GMT -5
this topic does not even deserve A) the 3 mins flipping through it B) This post C) my time
But i'll do it anyway
Your a moron for thinking this
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Post by mufcoasis on May 9, 2008 17:13:32 GMT -5
Thought I'd be controverisal.  It's not yer fault, but coming from a different culture ie. non-laddish , you've struggled to understand the band, and I think it's bloody hilarious from those Americans who think they do. The weather,football (that's soccer), politics are something you've had to live with all your life to understand what makes this band (aswell as many other bands) tick.  I think your right in some sense. |
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Post by wheatmanny on May 9, 2008 17:24:23 GMT -5
"Thought I'd be controverisal.
It's not yer fault, but coming from a different culture ie. non-laddish , you've struggled to understand the band, and I think it's bloody hilarious from those Americans who think they do.
The weather,football (that's soccer), politics are something you've had to live with all your life to understand what makes this band (aswell as many other bands) tick. "
You are from Ireland. You are the first Irishman I've heard liken Ireland culturally to the Brits. This is because they are two separate cultures. I suppose you can understand U2 in a way I can't though, so have fun with that.
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Post by mufcoasis on May 9, 2008 17:29:17 GMT -5
Oh and I don't think he means that we are bigger fans its just that we can relate to them.
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Post by caro on May 9, 2008 17:30:09 GMT -5
That is hillarious knowing that Webby is from Manchester  |
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Post by lionsden® on May 9, 2008 17:33:11 GMT -5
OK Tam we get it now.
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Post by queenoasis on May 9, 2008 18:08:40 GMT -5
He started this thread to get a rouse outta you. Stop falling for it...Its been 3 pages already!!!
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Post by joeyfrancis on May 9, 2008 18:26:32 GMT -5
I'm American, and I can still tell if my sink is full of fishes.
Plus, this is live4ever.us
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Post by jdsilva67 on May 9, 2008 22:44:02 GMT -5
gottahavefun, please, if you would, I'm sure all of us Americans and Elsewhere-folk would love to see you prove your point. I would courteously challenge you to take one Oasis song, let's say, Live Forever for the fun of it, and hash it out real good. Lyrics, melody, arrangement, whatever you like. And from that hashing out, if you can tell us foreigners anything that we otherwise wouldn't be able to "understand," your point will have been made. If not, then I respectfully would ask you to please fuck off.
Thank you,
JD
Bristol, RI
Not British
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 10, 2008 0:02:37 GMT -5
gottahavefun, please, if you would, I'm sure all of us Americans and Elsewhere-folk would love to see you prove your point. I would courteously challenge you to take one Oasis song, let's say, Live Forever for the fun of it, and hash it out real good. Lyrics, melody, arrangement, whatever you like. And from that hashing out, if you can tell us foreigners anything that we otherwise wouldn't be able to "understand," your point will have been made. If not, then I respectfully would ask you to please fuck off. Thank you, JD Bristol, RI Not British Well said mate. Well fucking said (Karma for you) |
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Post by Clint on May 10, 2008 1:35:30 GMT -5
As an American fan part of me understands what gottahavefun is saying.
It looks like he grew up in britain as an oasis fan and remembers their influence on culture and whatnot, as well as cultures influence on oasis.
That being said, I don't take music to be a personal thing. I like music at its base value. For what it is. No oasis songs are that deep. I like the sound they have. I can understand where they are coming from for the fact that I know about british culture in the 90s. I understand how it crafted oasis... but in the same way I don't care because I just like the tunes.
And that's what it comes down to. Depending on who you are and where you are you interpret the music differently. But you shouldn't say that your interpretation is better because it reminds you of fond memories of the 90s in britain.
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Post by Mad Dog Tannen on May 10, 2008 2:08:43 GMT -5
i think wat he trying to say is that Oasis (esp early Oasis) songs were about how they lived there lives (the high point and the low) and all the mad stuff they did in there lives when they were growing up - but the most important point in this is that all of this was done in England, so we can just appreciate the really small things that people from another country may not realise or understand where they were comin from when Oasis sang or more likely stated, a little bit more
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Post by MEANSTREAK on May 10, 2008 2:16:44 GMT -5
Thought I'd be controverisal. It's not yer fault, but coming from a different culture ie. non-laddish , you've struggled to understand the band, and I think it's bloody hilarious from those Americans who think they do. The weather,football (that's soccer), politics are something you've had to live with all your life to understand what makes this band (aswell as many other bands) tick. hhmm, I'm inclined to agree actually. For example I never could and still can't get why Liam has an inclination to grow a long but with bangs totally homo looking hairdo. I just don't get it. And I never could understand why you would invite someone over to drink some tea and give them lasagne. Never made sense to me. but now that I been living over here for a couple years I'm starting to understand better. Lots of dudes walk around with super tight jeans, long pointy shoes and a homo haircut, it's just a cultural thing. And when they say "tea" they can mean to drink tea or it can mean dinner. Such a culturally deep buncha people you Brits! |
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Post by jezzerking on May 10, 2008 3:32:20 GMT -5
Of course cultural differences will affect the way songs are understood, especially if the content of the lyrics are very british and non-american.
But to put yourself in a higher position and to proclaim that americans/others will never undestand the real oasis is bullshit.
Is it actually possible to interpret Noel's earlier lyrics? (DM, WTSMG, BHN) I think not. Some Might Say is the prime example for lyrics that mean absolutly nothing.
It's all about us as fans (wherever we come form) being able to enjoy the music.
And I'm from England.
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Post by adamhannah on May 10, 2008 5:23:51 GMT -5
This topic eclipses all the bullshit ones i've created over the last 3 years combined. What the fuck are you on about? You can't make that generalization. I'm American too, living in the US, and i'm just as passionate as the hardcore true Brit Oasis fans. Don't tell me i don't "understand the 'real' Oasis".....is there a "fake" Oasis, wtf are you on? Headshrinker you're not even anywhere near as bad as this idiot. In fact you're a serious unbelievable genius in comparison. |
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Post by 32shutout on May 10, 2008 9:41:11 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as this guy is a tool, i tend to agree with him a little bit. Especially the first album, there is tons of references to british culture. Supposedly a Shakermaker was a kid's play toy, and the Big Issue was a magazine. I had never heard of them b/f i became a fan.
But just b/c you know this doesn't really make you understand oasis anymore....
maybe it does, i don't know
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Post by Cirs on May 10, 2008 10:12:40 GMT -5
So many great Irish fans on this site. I was starting to think the country was perfect. I know, I feel embarrassed that a fellow Irish person created this thread (Although, he is from Cork which explains somethin!) gotthavefun, you're obviously a fairly new member, please get a feel for how the forum works (learn how to use the quote button!) before you start such stupid threads. It makes me cringe the way you write your posts and the immaturity of them. And be careful what you say, this thread has to be one of the most ignorant I've ever seen. You were 5 when DM was released. I'm guessin you pretty much missed out on anything Oasis-related from the 90s and have had to try catch up.. There are plenty of American fans that have been fans a lot longer than you. |
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Post by MEANSTREAK on May 10, 2008 10:24:40 GMT -5
You were 5 when DM was released. I'm guessin you pretty much missed out on anything Oasis-related from the 90s and have had to try catch up.. There are plenty of American fans that have been fans a lot longer than you. true, I was 17 when DM came out so I been lucky enough to be around from the start |
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Post by caro on May 10, 2008 13:40:05 GMT -5
You were 5 when DM was released. I'm guessin you pretty much missed out on anything Oasis-related from the 90s and have had to try catch up.. There are plenty of American fans that have been fans a lot longer than you. true, I was 17 when DM came out so I been lucky enough to be around from the start I don't know if being so old is lucky  When DM came out I was 11 and clueless about Oasis ;D |
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Post by mufcoasis on May 10, 2008 13:40:14 GMT -5
Fuck it its not even a whole english thing its a northen thing such as the word "tea" its only people up north in england that use it. Also the way we dress up north is different than down south.
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Post by caro on May 10, 2008 13:41:14 GMT -5
In all seriousness I think that only Noel and Liam can understand Oasis, we're not them right |
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