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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 7, 2008 1:35:12 GMT -5
Yeah, of course my OPINION isn't factual. But nor is the source that you're believing. It's just sad you can't use your brains to formulate an opinion, but have to be convinced by some other user.
I'm done with this debate. It's getting too irritating repeating myself. You are such fools. If it's not on the album, then fine - i'm wrong. But at least I have the balls to think for myself and formulate my own opinion.
And if it is on the album, you're not going to hear the end of it. You''ll look like the wallies you are.
You're not worth my time.
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Post by shoofee on May 7, 2008 1:37:01 GMT -5
Exactly. Your opinion. Period.
How fucking thick are you? Jesus christ. You've not heard the album. It's a known fact Tom and Serge have and has been verified by people in the know that run websites and have contacts. If Tom says its not on the album, its far more likely than it being on there, simply because Tom has heard it and Headshrinker is some douche in DC who hopes it is. Sure, if the source is wrong, hes wrong, choosing to believe the source is not "not using your brain".
None of your "facts" are facts. You're trying to add weight to your hope. Nothing more.
Care to place a wager on if it will be on the record? $100 Paypal says its not. Or better yet, if it isnt just stop posting here.
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Post by shoofee on May 7, 2008 1:38:31 GMT -5
Fine, put your money where your mouth is.
If its on the record, Ill give you $100.
If its not, fuck off from this forum for good. That way everyone will win.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 7, 2008 1:41:12 GMT -5
Exactly. Your opinion. Period. How fucking thick are you? Jesus christ. You've not heard the album. It's a known fact Tom and Serge have and has been verified by people in the know that run websites and have contacts. If Tom says its not on the album, its far more likely than it being on there, simply because Tom has heard it and Headshrinker is some douche in DC who hopes it is. Sure, if the source is wrong, hes wrong, choosing to believe the source is not "not using your brain". None of your "facts" are facts. You're trying to add weight to your hope. Nothing more. Care to place a wager on if it will be on the record? $100 Paypal says its not. Or better yet, if it isnt just stop posting here. You just don't get it do you. George Bush and all the leaders of the Western world claimed Sadam had WMD. All those leaders are privy to inside knowledge that us citizens don't have. All those leaders are more credibile than the Cindy Sheehans (what fucking ass she is though lol). But that intel was wrong, apparently. So shut the fuck up. Just beacuse Kasabian says it's not on the album doesn't mean they're saying it because Noel wants it to remain a secret/surprise/he's still unsure himself if he's gonna include it. USE. YOUR. BRAINS. FORMULATE. YOUR. OWN. OPINIONS. And as Oasis themselves suggest: DONT BELIEVE THE TRUTH |
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Post by shoofee on May 7, 2008 1:45:53 GMT -5
Exactly. Your opinion. Period. How fucking thick are you? Jesus christ. You've not heard the album. It's a known fact Tom and Serge have and has been verified by people in the know that run websites and have contacts. If Tom says its not on the album, its far more likely than it being on there, simply because Tom has heard it and Headshrinker is some douche in DC who hopes it is. Sure, if the source is wrong, hes wrong, choosing to believe the source is not "not using your brain". None of your "facts" are facts. You're trying to add weight to your hope. Nothing more. Care to place a wager on if it will be on the record? $100 Paypal says its not. Or better yet, if it isnt just stop posting here. You just don't get it do you. George Bush and all the leaders of the Western world claimed Sadam had WMD. All those leaders are privy to inside knowledge that us citizens don't have. All those leaders are more credibile than the Cindy Sheehans (what fucking ass she is though lol). But that intel was wrong, apparently. So shut the fuck up. Just beacuse Kasabian says it's not on the album doesn't mean they're saying it because Noel wants it to remain a secret/surprise/he's still unsure himself if he's gonna include it. USE. YOUR. BRAINS. FORMULATE. YOUR. OWN. OPINIONS. I have you stupid fucking moron. Using the quote, I have formulated that STC is not on the record. Just as you have used information to think that it is. The fact is, "Kasabian dude" has heard the record, he says its not on there. Sure, he could be bullshitting or it could get added on there at the last minute. Does that mean thats a fact? No. Its a possibility. That being said, I choose to believe it won't be, because I believe hes telling the truth, rather than believe an overzealous fan whos trying to put together a case for it being on there using old information that has absolutely no bearing on the current record. Again, put your money where your mouth is. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 7, 2008 1:49:46 GMT -5
Only time will tell. Within 1-2 months we'll have the track listing, and 3 months or so we'll have the album. Let's wait and see.
I hope both RM and STC will be on the album. And obviously i think both have a good CHANCE to be on the album. But RM has a better chance, and I'd rather have RM than STC if I had to pick one, bc RM is just fucking epic already, while STC is good and has the chance to be just as epic, it's not there yet.
Time will tell mate. This argument is not gonna go anywhere. So lets just leave it.
Cheers
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Post by andytr on May 7, 2008 3:41:24 GMT -5
i was dissapointed with the 3 new songs at first but i these are only demos and (with plenty of work) have potential to make really good songs. the Let There Be Love Demo, Aint That a Crime (or whatever it was called) was pretty lame but they transformed that into a top tune!
however all these people who are saying
RM 10/10
STC 10/10 are talking absolute bollocks!!
if they think that these songs are so good they need their heads seeing too!!
how can you say these songs are anywhere near as good as a top oasis tune?? they are nowhere near!!
noel could see that they werent ready or he would have released them by now.
hopefully he would have been able to bring them upto scratch and we will here a much better version IF they appear on the new album.
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Post by alliwantisthetruth on May 7, 2008 4:30:40 GMT -5
Aint got nothing on me has potential
Im digging Record machine
did Noel say Stop the Clocks is about 9/11 - listen to it closely, it puts a whole new angle on the song, what an amazing song
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Post by kenneth on May 7, 2008 5:44:57 GMT -5
As I've stated before: I have a really hard time believing that Tom Meghan would spill the beans on Oasis's new albums, when not even the Gallagher's have said anything about the tracklisting. Tom Meghan wouldn't do that, as I believe he is to loyal to Oasis. I'm willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but this is what seems most logical to me.
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 7, 2008 6:44:10 GMT -5
Pretty underwhelmed by the new stuff to be honest.
'... Record Machine' is far and away my favourite so far, has the best hook.
'Stop The Clocks' is a real disappointment and just meanders along without going anywhere. Pretty dull if I'm being honest.
'Ain't Got Nothin' On Me' is very poor. Liam's worst composition to date. And I include 'Little James' in that statement.
All in all, the only one I'd want to see on the new album is Record Machine. The rest are filler and could possibly be used as B-sides but nothing more.
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Post by costello on May 7, 2008 6:50:05 GMT -5
No one has given any reason why STC WONT be on the album... What about : " This song is a collection of cliché, in its tune and in its lyrics " or " always the same kind of Noel strumming his guitar and weeping " " Not even good enough to be a B SIDE.. Hello out there, remember Let's All Make Believe, The Masterplan, Talk Tonight " " Killer title... but the reste inside the song is just here to fill the song " I doubt they'll release it on the album... |
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Post by Moorish on May 7, 2008 7:33:01 GMT -5
Only time will tell. Within 1-2 months we'll have the track listing, and 3 months or so we'll have the album. Let's wait and see. I hope both RM and STC will be on the album. And obviously i think both have a good CHANCE to be on the album. But RM has a better chance, and I'd rather have RM than STC if I had to pick one, bc RM is just fucking epic already, while STC is good and has the chance to be just as epic, it's not there yet. Time will tell mate. This argument is not gonna go anywhere. So lets just leave it. Cheers He bet you good money there, Headshrinker!! Bottled it. |
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Post by face on May 7, 2008 7:57:22 GMT -5
the reason it won't be on the new album is because IT'S NOT VERY GOOD.
10/10??? take off the noel-colored glasses man.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 7, 2008 8:22:01 GMT -5
No one has given any reason why STC WONT be on the album... What about : " This song is a collection of cliché, in its tune and in its lyrics " or " always the same kind of Noel strumming his guitar and weeping " " Not even good enough to be a B SIDE.. Hello out there, remember Let's All Make Believe, The Masterplan, Talk Tonight " " Killer title... but the reste inside the song is just here to fill the song " I doubt they'll release it on the album... The concept may be cliched, but its hardly done in songs. And the lyrics are FAR from a cliche, you numpty. And anyway, when has a cliche put Oasis off releasing material? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 7, 2008 8:22:24 GMT -5
As I've stated before: I have a really hard time believing that Tom Meghan would spill the beans on Oasis's new albums, when not even the Gallagher's have said anything about the tracklisting. Tom Meghan wouldn't do that, as I believe he is to loyal to Oasis. I'm willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but this is what seems most logical to me. |
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Post by LlAM on May 7, 2008 8:25:53 GMT -5
As I've stated before: I have a really hard time believing that Tom Meghan would spill the beans on Oasis's new albums, when not even the Gallagher's have said anything about the tracklisting. Tom Meghan wouldn't do that, as I believe he is to loyal to Oasis. I'm willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but this is what seems most logical to me. I thought you'd "thought it through"? Obviously you haven't otherwise you would have said this ages ago!  |
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Post by idledreamer on May 7, 2008 8:54:59 GMT -5
headshrinker we all know you are a passionate passionate oasis fan, but just calm down a bit man
the point that stc almost made dbtt doesn't mean ditty squat, how many times have we heard noel say "the time has passed for that song, it's time to move on"
i mean cmon the song is very good. no wait, it is extremely good rite now but it is getting a bit old (the song i mean) and noel says that the songs are going to be fresh
thats all
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Post by LlAM on May 7, 2008 9:03:11 GMT -5
headshrinker we all know you are a passionate passionate oasis fan, but just calm down a bit man the point that stc almost made dbtt doesn't mean ditty squat, how many times have we heard noel say "the time has passed for that song, it's time to move on" i mean cmon the song is very good. no wait, it is extremely good rite now but it is getting a bit old (the song i mean) and noel says that the songs are going to be fresh thats all Did Noelly not say he had 7 tracks- 4 new and 3 older ones?? |
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Post by idledreamer on May 7, 2008 9:05:59 GMT -5
headshrinker we all know you are a passionate passionate oasis fan, but just calm down a bit man the point that stc almost made dbtt doesn't mean ditty squat, how many times have we heard noel say "the time has passed for that song, it's time to move on" i mean cmon the song is very good. no wait, it is extremely good rite now but it is getting a bit old (the song i mean) and noel says that the songs are going to be fresh thats all Did Noelly not say he had 7 tracks- 4 new and 3 older ones?? maybe so, but all i'm saying is to step back a bit before getting all worked up thinking that stc will indeed be on, , with all the speculation floating about whos to say that stc is one of the 3 older tracks, if indeed there will be 3 old ones thats all i mean to say |
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Post by start at the end on May 7, 2008 11:38:41 GMT -5
I think the official sites own admission is being over-looked a bit here. Not once did they denounce any of the tunes being on the album...just that none of them (in their "leaked" state) are from the "recent sessions'.
and while that certainly doesn't guarantee any of their inclusions, I sure would bet that at least 2 of them will be there (take a wild guess which!) until I hear otherwise.
Seems like a reasonable assumption, no? They (the site) could have easily deflected a mountain of speculation by simply denouncing their inclusion on the new record. That obviously didn't happen. Why? I really don't think it's cause they were looking to be doubly clever.
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 7, 2008 11:40:49 GMT -5
Some people on here need to get a grip.
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Post by start at the end on May 7, 2008 11:44:15 GMT -5
I agree. Hope you're not including me though, as I'm attempting to be as rational as possible through this whole deal.
Working off direct quotes from Noel (regarding Record Machine, for example) and offical web statements (like today, for example), I think their inclusion (at least one or two anyway) on the new lp is more likely than not.
that's all.
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Post by LlAM on May 7, 2008 12:58:33 GMT -5
They (the site) could have easily deflected a mountain of speculation by simply denouncing their inclusion on the new record. That obviously didn't happen. Why? Because they, like you and me, have no clue what so ever if they'll be on the album |
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Post by ccgdwn on May 7, 2008 13:04:04 GMT -5
Can someone please PM me where to get the songs? I am a huge fan and having problems finding them. Thanks so much!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2008 14:53:11 GMT -5
Noel just needs to release all of the versions of Stop th Clocks they've ever recorded as an EP. Case closed, right there.  |
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