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Post by sherry2370 on Apr 16, 2008 16:08:51 GMT -5
Noel,
You suck big time!! Who are you to insult U2, The Rolling Stones, and now Jay-Z. Jay-Z is more of a lyricist than you will ever be. How long have you been making music. How many albums have you sold? Each of these groups, including Jay-Z, have been around making music longer than your cornball ass. You have not even begun to pay the dues these people have paid. Don't be upset because they have enjoyed more success than you, and even in your own country. Oops I forgot you don't like the British either. Crawl back in your hole or get your ass kicked by your brother again. Also, what contributions have you made to society besides writing songs? Have you ever heard of giving back to society? These guys sure have. PLEASE STOP comparing yourself to John Lennon and The Beatles! You'll never be that big. Keep your comments to yourself because no one cares. Jay-Z is still laughing at your dumb ass...all the way to the bank...I hope Blur sells more albums than you...
Wake up call...You are not even on the same playing field as The Beatles.. and the USA does not want to see you perform here again, maybe we should Lenny Kravitz over to show you how to play the guitar and how to sing you dumb shit...
Signed,
Proud to be a Jay-Z fan
:-/ >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Post by webm@ster on Apr 16, 2008 16:32:33 GMT -5
Hey Sherry ,
welcome to the forum.
I was trying to do some research on Jay Z's album sales because your post wet my appetite to find out just how successful hisworld wide sales are. I couldn't find any numbers to back your claims though.
Would you know how many copies Jay-Z's top selling album sold ? Although I wouldn't call Lenny Kravitz a dumb shit I most certainly would not want to see him giving Noel any kind of lessons what so ever...btw what's Lenny up to ? He's sort off my radar screen right now.
cheers
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Post by caro on Apr 16, 2008 16:36:27 GMT -5
Blur is no more....
BTW I doubt Noel will ever read that prose ;D
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Post by webm@ster on Apr 16, 2008 16:42:34 GMT -5
When in need turn to Wikipedia :
Jay-Z is the most successful example of the growing power of hip-hop. He has sold a total of 33 million copies worldwide, and his latest album sold 680,000 copies in the Unites States alone, during its first week.[3] Known for his flow and blending of street and popular style, he can compose lyrics without the use of pen and paper.[4][5] His critically acclaimed album The Blueprint was written in only two days.[6] After announcing his retirement from recording music in 2003, he returned in late 2006 with the album Kingdom Come which sold 680,000 copies in its first week, Jay-Z's highest-selling album in a one-week period
oh and I completely forgot to answer your threads question:
OFCOURSE he should perform. I don't necessarily agree that he should head line Glastonbury but that's the organizer's choice.
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 16, 2008 16:44:21 GMT -5
you even took the time to make a poll, thats funny, which option would you think will win? I don't know why still are people like you in the world, i mean go listen to your music, let us listen to our music, as you have a right to like this Jey guy and dislike other music, Noel Gallagher has the same right, he always causes conflicts just for the fact that he answers honestly about his tastes in music,,,, you also do the same thing, with the exception that your a nobody obviously...... and have a lot of free time.  |
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Post by eva on Apr 16, 2008 16:45:02 GMT -5
who is Jay-Z?
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Post by caro on Apr 16, 2008 16:45:49 GMT -5
That's all very well but he doesn't qualify for a rock Festival IMO It doesn't mean we don't acknowledge his successes... Some bling bling hip hop guy who's unfortunate enough to be stuck with fatyoncé ;D |
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Post by pwntinator on Apr 16, 2008 17:11:16 GMT -5
Instead of simply recommending that you sodomize yourself with a
retractable baton Mr. Sherry, let me recommend a specific model - the ASP 21". Frank Lomax tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action.
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Post by sherry2370 on Apr 16, 2008 17:18:54 GMT -5
Webm@ster,
I will get those numbers for you and post them. Also, I did not call Lenny Kravitz a dumb shit. I called Noel a dumbshit. Currently Lenny has a album out called, "It is Time for a Love Revolution." I would not recommend it. His other albums have been much better.
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Post by halftheworld on Apr 16, 2008 17:33:31 GMT -5
i would not judge anybodys music on their number of records sold... in fact, most of the bestsellers are crap.
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Post by No Way Sis on Apr 16, 2008 17:44:03 GMT -5
LMAO giving back??? remind me, how many gigs did Noel do last year for charity? too many!! how many did Jay Z do?
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Post by Cast on Apr 16, 2008 17:51:14 GMT -5
Noel does the Teenage Cancer thing almost every year. Oasis has played at a ton of Charity events. Noel is honest and respect that. Oh and you asked how many albums? hmm not that many what (what's the story) Morning Glory sold about 20 million. Their debut album was the fastest debut album in history at its time. And Be Here Now is the fastest selling album of all time in the Uk. And they have sold around 50 million albums. You could argue that about 4 (maybe more, I'm looking at this from reviews and overall effect of the album) of their albums could be classics and with all of their rest of them being great or at least solid. Noel has written some of the best songs ever, you can look that up too. Oasis brought guitar music back and several US/UK and other bands have called them an influence. Liam sounds like no other singer no matter what, even if you pull the Rotten and Lennon card because he has more power than Lennon but more control that Rotten. Oasis still are a strong force they performed in front of millions on their last tour and have played some of the biggest Gigs ever done. Is Noel the best guitar player? No. Its not about being the best musician. Its about the songs and the passion of music. Oasis is not important in the US you might say. they have huge cult following (whether you admit it or not and they are getting ground) and its not about about being the most acceable band/group its about being real, not kissing anyones ass, and having people like you because you are who you are and what your music is like.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Apr 16, 2008 18:09:15 GMT -5
I'm confused... how could Jay Z make more songs than Noel, if he's not a musician and all he knows is to put words while some repeated beat goes on???
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Post by GasPanic on Apr 16, 2008 18:59:50 GMT -5
How long have you been making music. How many albums have you sold? He's been making music since before 1989... Oasis (The band Noel is in) sold close to 50,000,000 worldwide in 2006 Also, what contributions have you made to society besides writing songs? Have you ever heard of giving back to society? These guys sure have. Go to the official Oasis website, and you might see a little something about a Teenage Cancer trust... Just because he isn't begging for awards for being, "heroic" doesn't mean he does nothing for society... PLEASE STOP comparing yourself to John Lennon and The Beatles! You'll never be that big. When was the last time he compared himself to The Beatles, and now in the time we live in, it would be impossible to have the same effect on society as The Beatles did... Then again, I don't see Jay-Z selling out stadiums around the world Keep your comments to yourself because no one cares. I care... :( and the USA does not want to see you perform here again Don't speak for a country, I want him to preform here... maybe we should Lenny Kravitz over to show you how to play the guitar and how to sing you dumb shit... In my opinion, Noel Gallagher is a much better musician than Lenny Kravitz. Like when telling someone about Oasis, you would not have to say "I wouldn't recommend this album, because it's not good..." because there really hasn't been a bad Oasis album.... ever But it's all really opinion, and get your facts straight if you want to make claims with album sales and whatnot. |
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Post by headcase on Apr 16, 2008 19:38:21 GMT -5
i dont like jayz either, but noel does make arrogant statements that are irrational..
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 16, 2008 20:14:11 GMT -5
at least noel is a beatle fan and cover their songs with dignity not as that grey album by jay-z
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Post by mercury3164 on Apr 16, 2008 20:18:29 GMT -5
at least noel is a beatle fan and cover their songs with dignity not as that grey album by jay-z yeah that album to put it in a nice way is a complete embarassment |
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Post by Cast on Apr 16, 2008 21:28:23 GMT -5
Also even though i said Oasis is not always about being the best musician. Noel is overall a great musician; Guitar, bass, drums, vocals,
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Post by mercury3164 on Apr 16, 2008 21:30:05 GMT -5
Noel is the best songwriter of my generation. FACT.
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Post by nyr401994 on Apr 17, 2008 0:16:50 GMT -5
i like jay-z. i do. but sherry2370, you are an ass. simple as that. go wank off at a forum that would actually appreciate your comments. if there even is one. i nearly forgot, fuck lenny kravitz too. at least noel is a beatle fan and cover their songs with dignity not as that grey album by jay-z yeah that album to put it in a nice way is a complete embarassment it wasn't done by jay-z. he never endorsed or had anything to do with it. in fact, he tried to stop it over copyright issues. the album was done by dj danger mouse, now famous for being in gnarls barkley. oh, and by the way, i think it's brilliant. Noel is the best songwriter of my generation. FACT. OPINION. i'm not slagging noel by any means, but it isn't set in stone. you know what i mean? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2008 1:51:32 GMT -5
It's one man 's opinion, don't get all pissy about it.
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Post by LlAM on Apr 17, 2008 1:58:26 GMT -5
Keep your comments to yourself because no one cares. You obviously cared. Just like that big-shot hip hip magazine editor cared. Noels comments obviously mean a lot to some people. I, on the other, couldn't care less what Noel thinks of Glastonbury, Jay Zed, U2, Beatles or whoever. |
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Post by eddie on Apr 17, 2008 2:10:11 GMT -5
Well, I am terribly sorry to intervene, but yanno, I do not think it is right to get to a band forum and start off by bashing it....
Strange...
You seem to be a big fan of Jay Z, at the same time you say Lenny Kravitz can sing. Strange stuff put on the same row, ain't it? Just try and prove it, that Jay Z sings (or, mkay, raps in this very case) better than Noel sings... I do not think you will be able to do that.
If speaking of the terms of comparison of Noel and Beatles (or, once again, making Lenny a god of singing)or whatever you meant. I sincerely doubt that you, as a fan of hip-hop music can once again make a healthy comparison of Jay Z to one of those renegades, who started it all in your fave music sphere. I sincerely hope you understand what I mean. As an absolute adversary to hip hop and all that goes with it, I still have some knowledge and tend to analyse. Jay Z, being one of the bestselling and one of the most popular artists of (btw also passing-by) times still can hardly ever reach the level at which, for instance, Tupac or Notorious B.I.G. topped, you see? It is absolutely a different world, and more than that, different criteria of evaluation (and evolution, really).
Moreover, speaking of the stupidity of Noel's ass... Why on Earth do you think that your fave artist really KNOWS about what Noel had to say about that? I doubt it. Or you really have to be in a strange vibe with his head... Or... you have to be Jay Z???
Do not feel offended. It is common knowledge that Glasto has been a good place for the live music fans to hang out. and introducing hip hop artists to the line-up has always been nothing more than a simple action to involve more people and get more money. Remember, though, that Glastonbury has mostly been known for Oasis gigs once taking place there... Is Jay Z really known for any huge performance, that brought together hundreds of thousands of people to leave them in tears of joy after a magnificent show?
Or have you ever tried to compare a pompous show of any hip hop act to absolutely still shows of 5 people who do their job on the stage? Ever thought why the reaction to the band could be that mind-breaking?
But we are going far away from the point.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
Rock on.
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Post by kenneth on Apr 17, 2008 3:05:53 GMT -5
Sorry, but I find Jay-Z's Music very boring. I do however really dig NWA. That's proper hip hop!
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Post by fantasychicken on Apr 17, 2008 6:28:53 GMT -5
A few points for you Sherry (not a dig, just some info for you):
Glastonbury is on the whole a rock/indie/whatever festival. Huge variety (if you know where to look) but it's mainly guitars and stuff like that. Hip Hop hasn't really featured there before (on the main stage anyway).
Tickets for Glastonbury (150,000+) usually sell out in 2/3 hours. This year, they were still on sale the next day. The UK press was full of "Glastonbury not sold out - SHOCK!" stories. The general concensus from the public was that 1) The line-up wasn't that appealing, and 2) The weather has been shit for the last few years (think the Battle of the Somme). All of the newspapers ran with reason 1), and had the inclusion of Jay-Z as headliner as the main factor.
THEN - a reporter stopped Noel and asked (among other things) "Should Jay-Z be playing Glastonbury?" You've obviously seen his answer.
So the notion that Jay-Z probably doesn't fit in at Glastonbury was everywhere already - hence nobody buying tickets for it. Noel was just giving his thoughts on an already public opinion.
It's not about who's better, who can sing, who can't, who does the most for charity or whatever else - it's about whether a headline act fits in with the vibe of a particular festival - and more importantly whether the crowd want to watch them or not.
I mean, what would happen Oasis headlined a hip hop festival in the States? I'm sure Jay-Z would have something to say about it if someone asked him. That's if he's not too busy with his charity work of course.
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