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Post by Sternumman on Nov 16, 2014 18:11:06 GMT -5
Indeed. Name me one anthemic song they have written which is known all over the world and will still be sung 20 years from now? Well, apart from I bet you look good on the dancefloor their biggest song is "Do I Wanna Know?". It sold 1 million copies in the States, if i'm not mistaken. Whatever people say i'm that's what i'm not is a classic album, at least in the UK, and i love it. But they are not Oasis, Alex Turner can't write Champagne Supernova or DLBIA and Liam is a better frontman. You are a mistaken. There is no way it even sold half a million. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2014 21:00:29 GMT -5
Well, apart from I bet you look good on the dancefloor their biggest song is "Do I Wanna Know?". It sold 1 million copies in the States, if i'm not mistaken. Whatever people say i'm that's what i'm not is a classic album, at least in the UK, and i love it. But they are not Oasis, Alex Turner can't write Champagne Supernova or DLBIA and Liam is a better frontman. You are a mistaken. There is no way it even sold half a million. Yeah, not a chance that song sold a million times in America. However, AM did go Gold I believe.  |
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Post by Cast on Nov 17, 2014 10:19:33 GMT -5
Arctic Monkeys success in America interesting.
Rock and indie kids knew them in 06-07 because of the hype of their first two albums, but considering the success that AM has had over here in the US they've silently become a decently big modern rock act. I attribute this to the change in sound. AM is dark, sexy, heavy, and has some g-funk vibes to it. Very American friendly. I've seen them 4 times. Twice at clubs and 2 times at festivals. They are drawing a bigger crowds for sure.
I can't tell you how many drunk college students (mostly girls) have put on Do I Wanna Know?
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 17, 2014 15:48:57 GMT -5
Well, apart from I bet you look good on the dancefloor their biggest song is "Do I Wanna Know?". It sold 1 million copies in the States, if i'm not mistaken. Whatever people say i'm that's what i'm not is a classic album, at least in the UK, and i love it. But they are not Oasis, Alex Turner can't write Champagne Supernova or DLBIA and Liam is a better frontman. You are a mistaken. There is no way it even sold half a million. ARCTIC MONKEYS DO I WANNA KNOW JULY 18, 2013 AUGUST 22, 2014 DOMINO RECORDING COMPANY LTD. DIGITAL PLATINUM SINGLE NONE www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?artist=%22arctic_monkeys%22Platinum Certification Quantity: One million units. All versions count once toward certification. I was surprised too, but it sold 1 million copies in the States. Read more: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/45404/arctic-monkeys-oasis-generation?page=18#ixzz3JMTUZniW |
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Post by Sternumman on Nov 17, 2014 17:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 3:25:06 GMT -5
Probably, but means that they have a big hit in the US |
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Post by lamboasis on Nov 18, 2014 10:21:22 GMT -5
R u mine? better song than cigarettes and alcohol but not as classic as c&a Imho, C&A is better. Anyway it's a "Silver Single" in the UK, 200,000 copies sold. So both WAL and TDOYAM. |
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Post by allingoodtime on Nov 24, 2014 16:07:26 GMT -5
People keep mentioning Wonderwall..I dont think anyone will ever write a song like that again tbh.
There aren't too many songs which almost everyone can sing along to
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Post by squire on Nov 24, 2014 16:26:41 GMT -5
Thing is, even if Noel never wrote Wonderwall Oasis would still be bigger than the AM. This is a bla thread. As much as y'all may hate to admit it, Coldplay is a much better modern comparison to Oasis than AM. They are at a similar level of popularity as Oasis and Martin's ballads are heavily influenced by Noel's.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 16:43:05 GMT -5
See the problem withn these threads and its a cool thread. But like squire just mentioned above that coldplay is a better comparison ......here is the thing. OASIS were a band that INFLUENCED a generation. Haircut wise , clothes wise , lad culture and all , even slang ...... Coldplay may be more popular in states and AM A DAMN GOOD BAND. but to say eirher is the OASIS of a generation or any band to date is simply wrong , OASIS INFLUEMCE WENT BEYOND MUSIC. These bands mentioned and all else have not , not even my beloved ZEP did that ..... I'd say sex pistols influenced culture in late 70 s. That's about it ...... The kinks and stones I can't say influenced culture on a BEATLE level , and maybe the jam re introduced tne who " mod thing " But if we are talking bands post Oasis. There is none simple as .....and don't say the roses. They had the shot but blew it |
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Post by Tapir on Dec 15, 2014 6:32:39 GMT -5
See the problem withn these threads and its a cool thread. But like squire just mentioned above that coldplay is a better comparison ......here is the thing. OASIS were a band that INFLUENCED a generation. Haircut wise , clothes wise , lad culture and all , even slang ...... Coldplay may be more popular in states and AM A DAMN GOOD BAND. but to say eirher is the OASIS of a generation or any band to date is simply wrong , OASIS INFLUEMCE WENT BEYOND MUSIC. These bands mentioned and all else have not , not even my beloved ZEP did that ..... I'd say sex pistols influenced culture in late 70 s. That's about it ...... The kinks and stones I can't say influenced culture on a BEATLE level , and maybe the jam re introduced tne who " mod thing " But if we are talking bands post Oasis. There is none simple as .....and don't say the roses. They had the shot but blew it This is the best way of describing it... ever! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 8:56:12 GMT -5
See the problem withn these threads and its a cool thread. But like squire just mentioned above that coldplay is a better comparison ......here is the thing. OASIS were a band that INFLUENCED a generation. Haircut wise , clothes wise , lad culture and all , even slang ...... Coldplay may be more popular in states and AM A DAMN GOOD BAND. but to say eirher is the OASIS of a generation or any band to date is simply wrong , OASIS INFLUEMCE WENT BEYOND MUSIC. These bands mentioned and all else have not , not even my beloved ZEP did that ..... I'd say sex pistols influenced culture in late 70 s. That's about it ...... The kinks and stones I can't say influenced culture on a BEATLE level , and maybe the jam re introduced tne who " mod thing " But if we are talking bands post Oasis. There is none simple as .....and don't say the roses. They had the shot but blew it This is the best way of describing it... ever! Cheers mate  I know I am older than 99 percent of the members here , and even some of my good friends im like a decade older than and sometimes when these comparasins are made , i s ratch my head , because they couldn't have been in England in 95-97 and old enough to expierence the era properly not as a 12 or 13 year old . Or any young teen age not able to go out . I was fortunate enough to see how much Oasis influenced the culture those 2 or , 2 and a half years whstever it was , and when people compare any band be it coldplay or the monkeys or anyone to that level ( cultural level , lad culture , speaking , ECT ECT ) , it ain't happening , all I ever meant , glad you see what I mean |
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Post by Tapir on Dec 16, 2014 3:16:48 GMT -5
This is the best way of describing it... ever! Cheers mate I know I am older than 99 percent of the members here , and even some of my good friends im like a decade older than and sometimes when these comparasins are made , i s ratch my head , because they couldn't have been in England in 95-97 and old enough to expierence the era properly not as a 12 or 13 year old . Or any young teen age not able to go out . I was fortunate enough to see how much Oasis influenced the culture those 2 or , 2 and a half years whstever it was , and when people compare any band be it coldplay or the monkeys or anyone to that level ( cultural level , lad culture , speaking , ECT ECT ) , it ain't happening , all I ever meant , glad you see what I mean Yeah, I wasn't around when Oasis where the biggest (born '95), but after watching many things on the internet I do get a slight glimpse of how big they where. I'll never understand it properly i guess. Still loving their albums anyway  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 21, 2014 15:37:30 GMT -5
I think it's evidently clear that there's not one huge band. There's been no band like Oasis since Oasis. End of. Why does this thread still exist? For I have spoken.
Good tidings. x
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 22:04:08 GMT -5
have barely thought about AM since that last album... I bought it, listened didn't like and actually sold the cd. I find it ironic that this last was the only album to have some success over here. to me all but 2 songs (Do I Wanna Know / Whyd You Only Call Me etc) suck. I don't dislike R U Mine but it's just...choppy...WAY out of Oasis league. plus lazy to release it as a single, then stick it on an album 1 1/2 years later. even Noel never pulled that one lol
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Post by lamboasis on Dec 22, 2014 5:56:39 GMT -5
AM was successful because...
#1. Alex Turner. With that attitude and that haircut he became a teen idol. And that's great if you want to have success.
#2. AM is perfect for the USA. Music is kinda "sexy" and even people into rap or pop like Why'd you only call me when you're high and Do I Wanna Know. Arabella too.
#3. The cover/sleeve. It's important guys. It's so attractive and sophisticated.
#4. The first/second single, Do I Wanna Know?. Great song with catchy and commercial drum pattern. If you have a big single you're on the right way.
#5. A lot of people think that listening to AM is sophisticated.
AM: 750k copies UK; 500k US.
Humbug + Suck It and See: 620k UK; 125k US.
Why? Alex Turner wasn't the same guy, definitely not a teen idol. No "sexy", commercial and catchy songs. Shit cover/sleeve. No big singles.
To me:
#1. Whatever People Say I'm That's What I'm Not.
#2. Favourite Worst Nightmare
#3. Suck It And See
#4. AM
#5 Humbug
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Post by gdforever on Dec 22, 2014 12:03:56 GMT -5
AM was successful because people that heard it liked it.
Been playing them around friends for ages. But this album is the first time that the music has actually caught on with them.
Catchy tunes
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Post by Manualex on Dec 22, 2014 14:14:38 GMT -5
When I first heard of Artic Monkeys they were LOUD and CONFIDENT("don't believe the hype") they have moved on of that sound(for the better or the worse? I dont know) to one that has helped them to be more massive in the states and the rest of the world but it feels to me shallow, arrogant and at times confused(lots of questions, answers in I wanna be yours like if there hasn't been any positive answers to the pasts questions). I wonder what Alex Turner might do next, LP6 can be gone without a trace in america if they don't play the game with the next release.
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Post by lamboasis on Dec 22, 2014 14:49:19 GMT -5
AM was successful because people that heard it liked it. Been playing them around friends for ages. But this album is the first time that the music has actually caught on with them. Catchy tunes C'mon, a lot of their new fans are teenager girls who """"love"""" Alex Turner. With the 2009-2011 Turner AM would have been successful, but not that much. It was the same with Liam back in the 90s. Attractive, beautiful, charismatic etc. For a mixture of things AM was successful. I wrote it today: great singles, catchy indie rock/pop songs perfect for the US of A, Alex Turner's attitude, great cover/sleeve etc. I still think that it is a great album, I saw them live in a beautiful location such as Pistoia's Piazza Duomo in Tuscany last summer, but Whater People say and FWN are better. Suck It and See on the same level. Imagine a Best Of with 25 songs ( a lot, i know). I would include Do I Wanna Know?, Why'd you only call me when you're high, Arabella and R U Mine?. That's it. At least 8 from Whatever people..., 5 from FWN, 4 from Humbug and 4 from SIAS. Said that, Oasis are bigger |
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Post by gdforever on Dec 22, 2014 15:19:38 GMT -5
AM was successful because people that heard it liked it. Been playing them around friends for ages. But this album is the first time that the music has actually caught on with them. Catchy tunes C'mon, a lot of their new fans are teenager girls who """"love"""" Alex Turner. With the 2009-2011 Turner AM would have been successful, but not that much. It was the same with Liam back in the 90s. Attractive, beautiful, charismatic etc. For a mixture of things AM was successful. I wrote it today: great singles, catchy indie rock/pop songs perfect for the US of A, Alex Turner's attitude, great cover/sleeve etc. I still think that it is a great album, I saw them live in a beautiful location such as Pistoia's Piazza Duomo in Tuscany last summer, but Whater People say and FWN are better. Suck It and See on the same level. Imagine a Best Of with 25 songs ( a lot, i know). I would include Do I Wanna Know?, Why'd you only call me when you're high, Arabella and R U Mine?. That's it. At least 8 from Whatever people..., 5 from FWN, 4 from Humbug and 4 from SIAS. Said that, Oasis are bigger Personally Knee Socks is also one of my favorites and popular amongst my group of friend too. The Monkeys still aren't comparable to Oasis at their height though. I think it's definitely better than FWN and deserves it's success. And I'm not a teens that only likes them cause Alex looks good. Different Stokes for Different Folks. I like the album tracks too. I'm not big on No. 1 Party Anthem. But other than that nothing I skip. I don't know if I'd rate it above Whatever people say. But it's a close second for me. You are right that it's been a perfect storm for them though. A good album with excellent singles, a cool look, good artistic design. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 4, 2015 22:15:23 GMT -5
I saw them in Wellington last year and it was off putting hearing a huge amount of girls scream out his name ( especially since my name is Alex). Probably the closest thing ive experienced to a teenybopper concert.
Musically they were brilliant, Alex combed his hair about 100 times though. AM is their only album that I am a huge fan of and that has been played regularly in my friend circle at parties etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 4:43:17 GMT -5
Of course not.
Oasis are the Oasis of this generation - being a member of this generation a I can tell you most similar-age people I know prefer Oasis to AM and know more about them. AM aren't even the best band of this generation.
Bands better than AM:
Sigur Ros
The xx
Radiohead
Coldplay (This depends whether they continue their worrying downward spiral on AHFOD)
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Post by allingoodtime on Jan 5, 2015 6:11:19 GMT -5
Coldplay >>> AM
Oasis > Coldplay
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 5, 2015 6:18:32 GMT -5
Ten years ago my go to UK bands were (and in some cases still are):
Oasis
Radiohead
Coldplay
Travis
The Coral
Kasabian
The Bees
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 7:02:30 GMT -5
I've already gave my opinion why AM are Not the OASIS of this generation , and until another band comes around that changes the way UK culture speaks , looks , and what wears ,come along no band ever will be the " oasis " of there generation ....... Put it like this there were a lot of great american comedies. In the 1990 s ........ There was only SEINFELD that was culturally relevant at the waiter cooler , not Raymond or king of queens , or friends , So basically it's seinfeld >oasis in terms of cultural or generational,relevance ..AM ,Radiohead ,coldplay , None of them or the rest did that . Sorta simple really
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