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Post by onlyanorthernboy on Mar 25, 2013 17:57:48 GMT -5
the Libertines didn't have much impact in the United States which is why I called them underrated in the 'underrated bands' thread in the 'Rock'n'Roll Star' section to which I was dismissed by another Artic Monkey fan.... and yes, the Libertines are a joke now, at least Pete Doherty is but whenever they need money they'll reform and headline summer festivals. God bless. Doherty is a joke now, has been for almost 10 years. Its sad really |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 25, 2013 17:59:47 GMT -5
Good point. In America I don't think music has any impact on people's fashion anymore, at least not with rock n roll. Perhaps hip-hop but I'm not really sure. When I was in High School (1996-2000) people did dress like their musical heroes. Plenty of Nirvana wannabes, Green Day punks, Pearl Jam flannels, Smashing Pumpkins zero t-shirts and Oasis cool kids. Oh yeah, people even dressed like Dave Matthews Band (hemp necklaces, birkenstocks and tie dye shirts). I will never understand the obsession so many people had with DMB.....ever. It does in england to a degree. Well i say that but its just kids at 16/17 who listen to the courteeners and miles kane running round calling themselves mods. Hahahahahaha mods. That is funny. I guess you have a point, I was 16-17 years old when people were dressing like that. When you grow up, enter the real world, you tend to dress like an "adult". You gotta put the flannels and zero t-shirts away. |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 18:07:36 GMT -5
Im looking at the bigger picture not just the tunes. the libertines change peoples lives, made them believe in something, changed the way people dressed just like oasis did, the monkeys never really had that. Even though they are a fantastic band Even looking at the bigger picture and especially when you consider the tunes, to even compare them to oasis is crazy talk. They came and went while Oasis were still about. To be honest, after joining this site i have re-found my love for Oasis even though it never really went away, and even though i really like the Arctic's i would have to admit they dont even start to compare to Oasis in my mind. But to their credit they are still going strong. They don't have the attitude or swagger of Oasis but to be fair to them they do have a lot of good music IMO, which is whats its really all about. Libertines on the other hand have 2 albums which are pretty shit and thats all. |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 18:12:25 GMT -5
Proper Mod music! We are the mods, we are the mods, we are we are we are the mods!!!
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Post by onlyanorthernboy on Mar 25, 2013 18:13:43 GMT -5
Im looking at the bigger picture not just the tunes. the libertines change peoples lives, made them believe in something, changed the way people dressed just like oasis did, the monkeys never really had that. Even though they are a fantastic band Even looking at the bigger picture and especially when you consider the tunes, to even compare them to oasis is crazy talk. They came and went while Oasis were still about. To be honest, after joining this site i have re-found my love for Oasis even though it never really went away, and even though i really like the Arctic's i would have to admit they dont even start to compare to Oasis in my mind. But to their credit they are still going strong. They don't have the attitude or swagger of Oasis but to be fair to them they do have a lot of good music IMO, which is whats its really all about. Libertines on the other hand have 2 albums which are pretty shit and thats all. They did come and go yes, but lets face it oasis were abit shit between 2001-04 though. Dont get me wrong im not calling the monkeys crap theyre a great band who are getting better, i just feel the libertines had a bigger influence on people imo |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 25, 2013 18:13:52 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the Monkeys new album. I was very impressed with their 4th album after being underwhelmed by albums #2 and #3.
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 18:36:07 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the Monkeys new album. I was very impressed with their 4th album after being underwhelmed by albums #2 and #3. Took me a good while to get into humbug but it really is a great album, and some of their b-sides from that era are top quality also. And the 2nd album id sort of a progression from the 1st to the 3rd IMO but again with some great b-sides.
What makes them so good for me is they can do the slow ones and the faster, harder tunes also, often even in the same song. They have their own style and some of Turners lyrics are just genius. I can't even pick their best songs because they have so many.
Lay off the Radiohead and get back onto FWN and Humbug man. 
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 25, 2013 18:39:53 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the Monkeys new album. I was very impressed with their 4th album after being underwhelmed by albums #2 and #3. Took me a good while to get into humbug but it really is a great album, and some of their b-sides from that era are top quality also. And the 2nd album id sort of a progression from the 1st to the 3rd IMO but again with some great b-sides.
What makes them so good for me is they can do the slow ones and the faster, harder tunes also, often even in the same song. They have their own style and some of Turners lyrics are just genius. I can't even pick their best songs because they have so many.
Lay off the Radiohead and get back onto FWN and Humbug man.
I don't think I can "lay off" with Radiohead. I'm just as invested with them as Oasis with equal service time with both.............. I do like the Submarine soundtrack and always found it curious Alex turner co-wrote so many tunes off Miles Kanes' debut album. Ever wish some of them were Monkeys tunes? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 18:46:22 GMT -5
Arctic monkeys are not or will ever be the OASIS of their generation Just sayin ya know?
Good band ,, not now or ever be defined as a band that made a generation dress , talk , act ... That's what oasis did. So all other stuff aside answer to thread NO
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 25, 2013 18:52:21 GMT -5
It does in england to a degree. Well i say that but its just kids at 16/17 who listen to the courteeners and miles kane running round calling themselves mods. Hahahahahaha mods. That is funny. I guess you have a point, I was 16-17 years old when people were dressing like that. When you grow up, enter the real world, you tend to dress like an "adult". You gotta put the flannels and zero t-shirts away. the mod scene in my hometown Graz in Austria is not that small too^^ but without a pretty green store we are kinda fucked  |
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Post by onlyanorthernboy on Mar 25, 2013 18:56:41 GMT -5
Ahh Humbug, outstanding album
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 19:04:03 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher has heaped praise on fellow northerners Arctic Monkeys, giving them the ultimate accolade of comparing them to Oasis.
The Oasis lynchpin was inspired after seeing the Monkeys at their final tour date at London’s Brixton Academy.
But while he was full of kind words for the Sheffield lads, he said that The Libertines had it, then lost it.
Speaking about Arctic Monkeys, 38-year-old Noel said: “They’re an amazing band and they’re northerners, like us.
“I look at these and I know they’re not going to piss it away, because they’re solid, they love each other those four.
“And us northerners don’t fuck it up. I stood out in the front in Brixton with all the sweaty people and there’s only two bands I’ve done that for.
“I saw The Libertines at The Forum and they had something for a while, but the f**ked up.
“But watching that, they’re the only two things that I’ve seen since Oasis that had what we had and The Libertines lost it.”
He continued to the Daily Star: “They (Arctic Monkeys) have proved to me that youth culture is alive.
“If that’s the music that the kids are making then I’m happy for the kids. And I’m happier because I didn’t feel old at their gig.”
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Post by onlyanorthernboy on Mar 25, 2013 19:23:58 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher has heaped praise on fellow northerners Arctic Monkeys, giving them the ultimate accolade of comparing them to Oasis. The Oasis lynchpin was inspired after seeing the Monkeys at their final tour date at London’s Brixton Academy. But while he was full of kind words for the Sheffield lads, he said that The Libertines had it, then lost it. Speaking about Arctic Monkeys, 38-year-old Noel said: “They’re an amazing band and they’re northerners, like us. “I look at these and I know they’re not going to piss it away, because they’re solid, they love each other those four. “And us northerners don’t fuck it up. I stood out in the front in Brixton with all the sweaty people and there’s only two bands I’ve done that for. “I saw The Libertines at The Forum and they had something for a while, but the f**ked up. “But watching that, they’re the only two things that I’ve seen since Oasis that had what we had and The Libertines lost it.” He continued to the Daily Star: “They (Arctic Monkeys) have proved to me that youth culture is alive. “If that’s the music that the kids are making then I’m happy for the kids. And I’m happier because I didn’t feel old at their gig.” 1 minute 10 |
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Mar 25, 2013 19:40:25 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher has heaped praise on fellow northerners Arctic Monkeys, giving them the ultimate accolade of comparing them to Oasis. The Oasis lynchpin was inspired after seeing the Monkeys at their final tour date at London’s Brixton Academy. But while he was full of kind words for the Sheffield lads, he said that The Libertines had it, then lost it. Speaking about Arctic Monkeys, 38-year-old Noel said: “They’re an amazing band and they’re northerners, like us. “I look at these and I know they’re not going to piss it away, because they’re solid, they love each other those four. “And us northerners don’t fuck it up. I stood out in the front in Brixton with all the sweaty people and there’s only two bands I’ve done that for. “I saw The Libertines at The Forum and they had something for a while, but the f**ked up. “But watching that, they’re the only two things that I’ve seen since Oasis that had what we had and The Libertines lost it.” He continued to the Daily Star: “They (Arctic Monkeys) have proved to me that youth culture is alive. “If that’s the music that the kids are making then I’m happy for the kids. And I’m happier because I didn’t feel old at their gig.” 1 minute 10 that's a great series . Dennis Hopper narrated the american version. God bless. |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 19:47:59 GMT -5
Fair play i've never seen that before tbh, but still i just dont link them to oasis in any way what so ever, more like a bad mix of smiths and sex pistols. Both bands which i love as well but i don't know why i just don't like the libertines bar the odd song. For me the music must be there as well and they come up short in that respect IMO
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Mar 25, 2013 19:58:18 GMT -5
i'm a huge fan of the Clash, that makes liking the Libertines very easy.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 19:58:35 GMT -5
Fair play i've never seen that before tbh, but still i just dont link them to oasis in any way what so ever, more like a bad mix of smiths and sex pistols. Both bands which i love as well but i don't know why i just don't like the libertines bar the odd song. For me the music must be there as well and they come up short in that respect IMO Don't know reed if he is disagreeing with you or the other but IMO he's spot on about the libertines ...never got them never will ... I tried to after Noel talked them up but can't get into them man. I tried .. Don't do it. Think Doherty way overrated .. But hey that's just me man |
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Post by WirralRiddler on Mar 25, 2013 20:14:13 GMT -5
Fair play i've never seen that before tbh, but still i just dont link them to oasis in any way what so ever, more like a bad mix of smiths and sex pistols. Both bands which i love as well but i don't know why i just don't like the libertines bar the odd song. For me the music must be there as well and they come up short in that respect IMO Don't know reed if he is disagreeing with you or the other but IMO he's spot on about the libertines ...never got them never will ... I tried to after Noel talked them up but can't get into them man. I tried .. Don't do it. Think Doherty way overrated .. But hey that's just me man I know exactly what you're saying mate i agree 100%, Never heard Noel say those words about them before to be honest, and i'm now slightly disappointed in him but only ever so slightly. He's usually spot on though, especially about the monkeys  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:22:13 GMT -5
Don't know reed if he is disagreeing with you or the other but IMO he's spot on about the libertines ...never got them never will ... I tried to after Noel talked them up but can't get into them man. I tried .. Don't do it. Think Doherty way overrated .. But hey that's just me man I know exactly what you're saying mate i agree 100%, Never heard Noel say those words about them before to be honest, and i'm now slightly disappointed in him but only ever so slightly. He's usually spot on though, especially about the monkeys I vaguely remember Noel maybe Liam saying something to the effect of liking them , but that was deep in my gear days man I really tried to like there sound and such but after like 20 listens I said f** k it not for me. Ya know ? Love Noel and Liam but I ain't walkin on nails cause they do They fail my test man! If their on the radio college , indie whatever I turn dial , to me that means I can't dig them ya know? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:29:09 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the Monkeys new album. I was very impressed with their 4th album after being underwhelmed by albums #2 and #3. Lennon what's your take on this libertene stuff ...I never liked. , you ? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:33:07 GMT -5
Don't know reed if he is disagreeing with you or the other but IMO he's spot on about the libertines ...never got them never will ... I tried to after Noel talked them up but can't get into them man. I tried .. Don't do it. Think Doherty way overrated .. But hey that's just me man I know exactly what you're saying mate i agree 100%, ; He's usually spot on though, especially about the monkeys Oh yea no doubt Monkeys are good never knocked them ...just not oasis of there generation cause no band is ,,no band grabbed this era but the throat like oasis did in the 90 s Monkeys rock out much respect .. But the UK didn't change there lingo there hair. Is all I mean on that ..that's when a band defines a generation. Music , style ,culture , ya know ? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 25, 2013 20:35:22 GMT -5
I am looking forward to the Monkeys new album. I was very impressed with their 4th album after being underwhelmed by albums #2 and #3. Lennon what's your take on this libertene stuff ...I never liked. , you ? For whatever reasons I just never got into them when they got huge between 2002-2004. I like some songs, I own the greatest hits I believe but I rarely listen to them. I am probably missing out. I should really dive in again. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:38:09 GMT -5
Lennon what's your take on this libertene stuff ...I never liked. , you ? For whatever reasons I just never got into them when they got huge between 2002-2004. I like some songs, I own the greatest hits I believe but I rarely listen to them. I am probably missing out. I should really dive in again. I never did as well Gladyou agree I wasn't bulls hittin before. You know more about the new stuff man ..I sorta checked out Round libertine time didn't like it as I was telling riddler. I tried tho |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 25, 2013 20:41:32 GMT -5
For whatever reasons I just never got into them when they got huge between 2002-2004. I like some songs, I own the greatest hits I believe but I rarely listen to them. I am probably missing out. I should really dive in again. I never did as well Gladyou agree I wasn't bulls hittin before. You know more about the new stuff man ..I sorta checked out Round libertine time didn't like it as I was telling riddler. I tried tho I was really into Wilco, Interpol, Flaming Lips, Soundtrack of Our Lives, Doves and Sigur Ros around this time. They fell through the cracks sadly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:42:57 GMT -5
I never did as well Gladyou agree I wasn't bulls hittin before. You know more about the new stuff man ..I sorta checked out Round libertine time didn't like it as I was telling riddler. I tried tho I was really into Wilco, Interpol, Flaming Lips, Soundtrack of Our Lives, Doves and Sigur Ros around this time. They feel through the cracks sadly. No doubt!! I had high hopes for the doves ..them I remember ' |
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