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Sept 19, 2006 13:03:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 13:03:10 GMT -5
2001/2002: Arsenal --> Utd 3rd 2002/2003: Man Utd --> Arsenal 2nd 2003/2004: Arsenal --> Utd 3rd 2004/2005: Chelsea --> Arsenal 2nd, Utd 3rd 2005/2006: Chelsea --> Utd 2nd, Arsenal 3rd Arsenal have had 1 bad season in AW's 10 yrs at the club. Utd have had 3 or 4 bad seasons out of the last 5....you're on the fuckin decline, if you win nothing this year then i think Fergie's time is up don't get so worried for fergie this won't be his last year as we will win the league.
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Sept 19, 2006 13:22:58 GMT -5
Post by irishmick06 on Sept 19, 2006 13:22:58 GMT -5
am u say im an idiot if i think fergies losing it. but u didnt explain why im an idiot to think this. are u trying to say it was the right decision to play oshea or fletcher in front of carrick. and when ure trying to score a goal against arsenal, do u take rooney off???
and i am not the only one to thinks this, utd supporters seem to call for fergie to go every year. when arsenal stuggled domestically last year, i never once heard any arsenal supporter call 4 wenger to go.
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Sept 19, 2006 13:31:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 13:31:33 GMT -5
am u say im an idiot if i think fergies losing it. but u didnt explain why im an idiot to think this. are u trying to say it was the right decision to play oshea or fletcher in front of carrick. and when ure trying to score a goal against arsenal, do u take rooney off??? and i am not the only one to thinks this, utd supporters seem to call for fergie to go every year. when arsenal stuggled domestically last year, i never once heard any arsenal supporter call 4 wenger to go. live4evr slagged off arsenal almost every single day of last season, yes there are many man utd fans who are idiots as well. As for struggling domestically last season, I don't think so, people have forgotten how well Chelsea did. In many seasons both man utd and Liverpool’s points totals would have won the league but Chelsea raised the bar. Perspective people perspective. Man Utd hadn't won the league for 26 years until it was won in 93 now its been 3 years and all of a sudden there’s a crisis and Fergie is shit. Forgive me for believing that Fergie isn’t shit and that United have a very good chance of winning the title.
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Sept 19, 2006 14:29:00 GMT -5
Post by irishmick06 on Sept 19, 2006 14:29:00 GMT -5
i said it was arsenal who had struggled domestically, and i still dnt see why im an idiot for thinking fergie has lost his touch, hes the reason stam, beckham, keane and rudd left, hes also the guy who bought jemba jemba, kleberson, forlan, and veron.
not to mention the 30million signing of rio, the 30 million signing of rooney, and the panic buy of the season 18million carrick
compare this to the 2 million spent on eboue, toure, and cesc fabregas.
i think its clear which manager knows best
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Sept 19, 2006 16:09:38 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 16:09:38 GMT -5
you really think rooney is a mistake
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Sept 19, 2006 16:22:47 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2006 16:22:47 GMT -5
no, i said it was AW's fault for a poor prem form last season. when i said "sack wenger" that was my emotions talking
if AW doesnt win anything this year then i'll accept it if AW doesnt win anything next season - ie when the youngsters are def not young anymore - THEN it's time to worry
what has Fergie won since 2002/2003? - The FA Cup and Worthless Cup. Arsenal since 2002/2003? The League, FA Cup, Charity Shield, CL Runners up
i know if Fergie wins nothing this year, he will still stay -- but he really should go....he's no where near the success he was in the 90s...THUS ON THE DECLINE!!!!
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Sept 19, 2006 16:30:00 GMT -5
Post by feckarse on Sept 19, 2006 16:30:00 GMT -5
you really think rooney is a mistake Aye, £30m for Rooney was a snip. Chelsea must be mad they didn't pay it. If United were willing to sell, which of course they aren't, they could easily get double their money back selling him to the sKum
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Sept 19, 2006 17:26:44 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2006 17:26:44 GMT -5
Rooney will get 15-20 goals/season
respectable, but not worth 30mill...esp when u consider Henry was bought for much much less
Sheva will be just as useless too
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Sept 19, 2006 17:29:42 GMT -5
Post by globe on Sept 19, 2006 17:29:42 GMT -5
Sheva will be just as useless too Yeah, but he has a European Cup winers medal, which is one more than Henry and will ever have.
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Sept 19, 2006 17:30:54 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 17:30:54 GMT -5
Rooney will get 15-20 goals/season respectable, but not worth 30mill...esp when u consider Henry was bought for much much less Sheva will be just as useless too if you count rooneys contribution on goals alone you are an idiot ;D
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Sept 19, 2006 17:46:04 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2006 17:46:04 GMT -5
doesnt matter what sheva, or any player has done in the past...rather, it matters how they do at their new club
case and point: Veron
Domestic
* Argentine B Division : 1995 * Italian Cup : 1999, 2000, 2005, 2006 * Italian Serie A : 2000, 2006 * Italian Super Cup : 2000, 2005 * English Premier League : 2003
European
* UEFA Cup : 1999 * European Super Cup : 1999
but does that make him a good player? NO.
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Sept 19, 2006 17:48:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 17:48:39 GMT -5
doesnt matter what sheva, or any player has done in the past...rather, it matters how they do at their new club case and point: Veron Domestic * Argentine B Division : 1995 * Italian Cup : 1999, 2000, 2005, 2006 * Italian Serie A : 2000, 2006 * Italian Super Cup : 2000, 2005 * English Premier League : 2003 European * UEFA Cup : 1999 * European Super Cup : 1999 but does that make him a good player? NO. yes it does
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Sept 19, 2006 17:59:09 GMT -5
Post by irishmick06 on Sept 19, 2006 17:59:09 GMT -5
i dont think rooneys a mistake i was highlighting the fact that fergie seems to think that spending big money will bring success, i was highlighting the fact that you had spent 60 million on two players compared to wengers 2million, on toure eboue and fabregas
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Sept 19, 2006 18:25:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2006 18:25:16 GMT -5
i dont think rooneys a mistake i was highlighting the fact that fergie seems to think that spending big money will bring success, i was highlighting the fact that you had spent 60 million on two players compared to wengers 2million, on toure eboue and fabregas fair enough
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Sept 19, 2006 18:41:50 GMT -5
Post by MG on Sept 19, 2006 18:41:50 GMT -5
doesnt matter what sheva, or any player has done in the past...rather, it matters how they do at their new club case and point: Veron Domestic * Argentine B Division : 1995 * Italian Cup : 1999, 2000, 2005, 2006 * Italian Serie A : 2000, 2006 * Italian Super Cup : 2000, 2005 * English Premier League : 2003 European * UEFA Cup : 1999 * European Super Cup : 1999 but does that make him a good player? NO. Veron is a superb player. The english game didn't suit him unfortunally
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Sept 19, 2006 19:00:26 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2006 19:00:26 GMT -5
exactly, MG
just cos Sheva has won a lot doesnt mean he himself will be a success at chelsea (20+ goals)....
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Sept 20, 2006 5:56:59 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2006 5:56:59 GMT -5
exactly, MG just cos Sheva has won a lot doesnt mean he himself will be a success at chelsea (20+ goals).... true, but you said veron had won loads and was not a good player, which is a lie. and sheva will score plenty of goals this season don't you worry.
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Sept 20, 2006 6:23:19 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2006 6:23:19 GMT -5
god, i wish I could see the future too, Ross...
no, my point about Veron is that he won shit loads before he joined Utd....and he was crap for them, as well as for Chelsea
and also, winning titles doesnt mean you yourself are amazing, rather it means the team you were in was amazing.....
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Sept 20, 2006 13:59:36 GMT -5
Post by lionsden® on Sept 20, 2006 13:59:36 GMT -5
god, i wish I could see the future too, Ross... no, my point about Veron is that he won shit loads before he joined Utd....and he was crap for them, as well as for Chelsea and also, winning titles doesnt mean you yourself are amazing, rather it means the team you were in was amazing.....
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Sept 21, 2006 6:37:10 GMT -5
Post by Dominic on Sept 21, 2006 6:37:10 GMT -5
I wouldnt mind Sheva in my team
and also forgetting the Champions League, Sheva has more than proven himself at the hight of club football
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Sept 21, 2006 8:34:04 GMT -5
Post by Dominic on Sept 21, 2006 8:34:04 GMT -5
Wenger v Ferguson - At a glance P W D L F A 32 13 7 12 39 36
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Sept 21, 2006 9:22:50 GMT -5
Post by Moorish on Sept 21, 2006 9:22:50 GMT -5
Wenger v Ferguson - At a glance P W D L F A 32 13 7 12 39 36 Those are interesting stats, really shows how close it has been over the last few years. Ross, when I called Fergie a "horrible vagina" I was not trying to demean his managerial skills. He is obviously a legend and one of the best coaches the game has ever had. I do think personality wise he is a horrible vagina, but then I am a Gooner ;D
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Sept 30, 2006 12:07:51 GMT -5
Post by feckarse on Sept 30, 2006 12:07:51 GMT -5
Problems at Arsenal? What problems?!
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Sept 30, 2006 16:26:26 GMT -5
Post by Wireless on Sept 30, 2006 16:26:26 GMT -5
RvP's 2nd goal today was a fucking dream!
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Post by Dominic on Oct 1, 2006 5:58:30 GMT -5
I love RVP, Legend
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