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Post by Rain on Jan 25, 2006 1:03:14 GMT -5
Abortion Rights Might be taken away in the US... DO you think it's right? Or you think somewhat right consider men had no rights before on deciding with abortions?
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Post by caro on Jan 25, 2006 13:52:08 GMT -5
do you have an article or something about that? damn i hope it never comes true...i was fearing that though  |
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Post by lionsden® on Jan 25, 2006 13:56:22 GMT -5
he's overreacting
we have a new conservative supreme court justice that will be sworn in soon
I think Rain is thinking that the rights will be overturned because of another conservative supreme court justice
The most that could prob happen is that the states would determine whether it is legal or not, but i don't think that its gonna happen. Its a huge issue but I think that it will stay like it is now
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Post by caro on Jan 25, 2006 13:58:10 GMT -5
that's why i was asking for some article
i hope it doesnt happen
it's not that i like that of course...
but sometimes it's really needed
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Post by Didi on Jan 25, 2006 15:56:53 GMT -5
it's not that i like that of course... but sometimes it's really needed Women should have the free choice - if they want to do it, they should be able to! |
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Post by Poshbird05 on Jan 25, 2006 16:11:01 GMT -5
Taking away abortion rights is political suicide it's best if you don't do anything about it because the fact is you'll never get everyone to one side about it you'll be hated no matter what you do, so just let it be.
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Post by giggergrl on Jan 25, 2006 18:47:32 GMT -5
these are the same RIGHT WING NUT JOBS that wanna ..
a.) not have sex ed in schools,
b.) not promote planned parenthood and birth control and SAFE SEX and
3.) take away from childcare funding and after school programs , welfare for poor ppl that really need it and public assistance... blah blah blah..
yeah let's expect ppl to practice abstinance..
end of sermom..
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Post by nyr401994 on Jan 25, 2006 23:44:45 GMT -5
know what i'd love to see? a white, christian father-who-thinks-abortions-are-morally-wrong has his teenage daughter knocked up by a 20-something black/mexican/jewish/middle eastern guy. then let's see how anti-abortion he is.
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Post by giggergrl on Jan 25, 2006 23:46:06 GMT -5
know what i'd love to see? a white, christian father-who-thinks-abortions-are-morally-wrong has his teenage daughter knocked up by a 20-something black/mexican/jewish/middle eastern guy. then let's see how anti-abortion he is. haha - did you really just say that NYR ?  |
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Post by caro on Jan 26, 2006 1:10:19 GMT -5
know what i'd love to see? a white, christian father-who-thinks-abortions-are-morally-wrong has his teenage daughter knocked up by a 20-something black/mexican/jewish/middle eastern guy. then let's see how anti-abortion he is. hehe but without being that extremist just think about raped girls/women who get pregnant from their rapist.... or kids that are seropositive before being born....and so on.... |
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Post by Rain on Jan 26, 2006 3:08:15 GMT -5
I have nothing a wrong against abortion, but I think it's not right a women can go in and have it without a man she's with knowing.
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Post by caro on Jan 26, 2006 13:15:20 GMT -5
I have nothing a wrong against abortion, but I think it's not right a women can go in and have it without a man she's with knowing. it depends on the situation i suppose but if the girl likes/loves the guy she probs tell him about that kind of thing it depends on so many things really but first of all it concerns women cos after all they'll bear the baby |
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Post by Currian on Jan 27, 2006 17:25:34 GMT -5
That would be fucked up.
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Post by halftheworld on Jan 27, 2006 17:46:52 GMT -5
know what i'd love to see? a white, christian father-who-thinks-abortions-are-morally-wrong has his teenage daughter knocked up by a 20-something black/mexican/jewish/middle eastern guy. then let's see how anti-abortion he is. ;D and i thought the boots were the best part of that forum! but that's class!!!
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Post by giggergrl on Jan 27, 2006 20:10:14 GMT -5
I have nothing a wrong against abortion, but I think it's not right a women can go in and have it without a man she's with knowing. I totally agree.... |
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Post by akaidleroses on Dec 3, 2017 12:32:29 GMT -5
2018 will see a vote on abortion here in Ireland and it will cause anarchy and leave a lot of bad blood whichever way the vote swings.
What bothers me is our minister for children is pro choice which would be comical if it wasn't so fucked up. I'll be voting against it as the unborn deserves a shot a life and also as a protest vote against the headcase feminists who have a stranglehold on our media.
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Post by akaidleroses on Dec 3, 2017 12:38:05 GMT -5
know what i'd love to see? a white, christian father-who-thinks-abortions-are-morally-wrong has his teenage daughter knocked up by a 20-something black/mexican/jewish/middle eastern guy. then let's see how anti-abortion he is.
It's a question that can cause emotion in people which is understandable but it needs to be investigated and proven in court which I know over here in Ireland won't happen in a few months. I've spoken to people who really believe if the woman says she was raped then the abortion should be allowed which is batshit crazy. No proof etc needed just her word that a rape happened. |
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Post by johnwesleyharding on Dec 3, 2017 13:07:06 GMT -5
I think there is an easy fix to the argument: If you want to staunchly advocate 'pro-life', you must be a licensed foster parent. If you have no desire to offer an alternative home, you get no say in when or under what circumstances a child is born. Simple.
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Post by jordan71421 on Dec 3, 2017 13:18:00 GMT -5
Abortion may be the one issue that I cannot clearly decide on in my own head. On one hand, I'm a firm believer in the right to self and being able to do whatever you want to do to your own body (in the confines of the law.) But on the other hand, there's a lack of morality of those who are pro-choice, completing negating the fact that there is in fact a human being involved (regardless if you believe that life begins at conception or not.) I wrestle with this topic in my head all of the time.
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Post by akaidleroses on Dec 3, 2017 14:27:59 GMT -5
I think there is an easy fix to the argument: If you want to staunchly advocate 'pro-life', you must be a licensed foster parent. If you have no desire to offer an alternative home, you get no say in when or under what circumstances a child is born. Simple. How is that an easy fix? Someone who is a foster parent gets a say on abortion but a non foster parent doesn't? I think you need to elaborate a lot lot more on your statement as I am a bit confused on what you're actually putting forward. |
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Post by johnwesleyharding on Dec 3, 2017 16:14:58 GMT -5
I think there is an easy fix to the argument: If you want to staunchly advocate 'pro-life', you must be a licensed foster parent. If you have no desire to offer an alternative home, you get no say in when or under what circumstances a child is born. Simple. How is that an easy fix? Someone who is a foster parent gets a say on abortion but a non foster parent doesn't? I think you need to elaborate a lot lot more on your statement as I am a bit confused on what you're actually putting forward. Okay. The pro-life stance says that all life is sacred and there are alternatives to abortion. Adoption is touted as the most common fix for an unwanted pregnancy. A woman should be forced to relinquish her right to choose whether or not to give birth and can then only choose whether or not to retain custody of the child. Adoption absolutely happens, but there are far fewer viable adoptive homes than the pro-life coalition wants to admit. There are far fewer options still the older the child becomes. Despite all of the facts associated with social services, which also receive decreased funding from the same conservative policy makers, abortion is viewed as immoral. If whomever wanted to legally prohibit abortion was forced to take responsibility for housing, feeding and raising the child either through increased taxes for social services or becoming licensed to take in and care for these unwanted miracles, the need for choice would become a little clearer. The politicians demanding a repeal of the law are not offering to help deal with the consequences of that decision and until they do, their opinion shouldn't carry any weight. |
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Post by caro on Dec 3, 2017 16:48:30 GMT -5
but without being that extremist just think about raped girls/women who get pregnant from their rapist....
It's a question that can cause emotion in people which is understandable but it needs to be investigated and proven in court which I know over here in Ireland won't happen in a few months. I've spoken to people who really believe if the woman says she was raped then the abortion should be allowed which is batshit crazy. No proof etc needed just her word that a rape happened. I do not think that abortion should be granted on whether or not a woman was raped. I know that to the rape question, pro lifers will say that out of a bad situation comes a miracle. Or some people would adopt the disgusting stance that the rape was the woman’s fault... and she has to take responsibility for the consequences. Overall there are many more victims than liars and they should not have to suffer more because of a few liars. There is also the debate if abortion for medical reasons. Sadly we don’t live in a perfect world where everyone will use birth control and a birth control that does not fail. These questions are sensitive and I wish that government would not make faith based decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 16:59:26 GMT -5
Pro-choice all the way. What's a better way to fuck up your life than unwanted pregnancy? Especially when it's some drunken mistake when you're 16 or even worse, after a rape.
It's morally more wrong to be forced to keep the baby than doing an abortion.
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Post by caro on Dec 3, 2017 17:10:46 GMT -5
I am pro choice too. There is a need for information and counseling though as well as guidelines and rules. It’s such a sensitive topic. I’m sure that it’s not a decision that most women take lightly. If someone is pro life then great they can follow their belief if they ever are in that situation.
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