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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 19, 2015 22:44:17 GMT -5
1. Parallel Universes. 2. Computer Simulation, etc.....Those sort of philosophical, semi-scientific concepts I believe in. Parallel Universes is gaining a lot of credibility, mind. But I think both are viable leading theories.
What any and/or all of these related theories mean as a whole and regarding any sort of after life is beyond the scope of my comprehension. So no, I don't subscribe to any organized religion. I clicked "Atheist" here due to the connotation, but "Agnostic" perhaps regarding my overarching beliefs (more below).
As an addendum, I've been thinking about death, moreover the concept of death, recently. And I've come to the conclusion that it's hard for us to conceptualize "Nothingness." Just as humans can't fully understand "Infinity", we also can't understand "Nothingness." So when you think of dying and just being buried in the ground and that's it, no more, it's very hard to intellectualize and understand. So we look for answers elsewhere.
Frankly, there's a lot to this world and universe that we don't understand. We think we understand a shit ton based on how far society has come in even the last 100 years. But we have no idea what lurks. Really, the possibilities are almost endless. Is it not silly to simply conclude there is no sort of after life based on that? (I don't know, just speculating in my writing).
Sorry, this is just where my mind has been in recent weeks. Sigh.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 19, 2015 23:55:14 GMT -5
1. Parallel Universes. 2. Computer Simulation, etc.....Those sort of philosophical, semi-scientific concepts I believe in. Parallel Universes is gaining a lot of credibility, mind. But I think both are viable leading theories. What any and/or all of these related theories mean as a whole and regarding any sort of after life is beyond the scope of my comprehension. So no, I don't subscribe to any organized religion. I clicked "Atheist" here due to the connotation, but "Agnostic" perhaps regarding my overarching beliefs (more below). As an addendum, I've been thinking about death, moreover the concept of death, recently. And I've come to the conclusion that it's hard for us to conceptualize "Nothingness." Just as humans can't fully understand "Infinity", we also can't understand "Nothingness." So when you think of dying and just being buried in the ground and that's it, no more, it's very hard to intellectualize and understand. So we look for answers elsewhere. Frankly, there's a lot to this world and universe that we don't understand. We think we understand a shit ton based on how far society has come in even the last 100 years. But we have no idea what lurks. Really, the possibilities are almost endless. Is it not silly to simply conclude there is no sort of after life based on that? (I don't know, just speculating in my writing). Sorry, this is just where my mind has been in recent weeks. Sigh. This is one of the best posts you've ever made, my friend. Personally I identify as an atheist because there isn't enough evidence to suggest that there is a god or life after death. However, I'm open to accepting that I'm wrong. I know that we are discovering new things all the time and science, for one, revises its theories about the universe every so often because we are always finding out more. Which is why if people find out tomorrow that that there is indeed an all-powerful deity or an afterlife, I'd convert and say I was wrong all along! But until that day happens, I shall remain an heretic brewing my *cough* heathen chemistry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 7:35:06 GMT -5
\world was meant to end yesterday, still here. I predict that the world will end when the BHN reissue comes out. You heard it here first. Well this comment's aged well
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Post by NYR on Oct 21, 2018 21:27:16 GMT -5
I predict that the world will end when the BHN reissue comes out. You heard it here first. Well this comment's aged well Well, the world has gone to shit since its release, so he's not that far off…
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 7:18:18 GMT -5
Well this comment's aged well Well, the world has gone to shit since its release, so he's not that far off… It was crap long before that release to be fair.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 22, 2018 8:19:09 GMT -5
Well, the world has gone to shit since its release, so he's not that far off… It was crap long before that release to be fair. i think the world is better now than 50/100/150.. and so and years ago. that doesnst mean its good, but the western society tends to forget how good life is now in comparison. the internet makes people crazy
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Post by NYR on Oct 22, 2018 13:26:57 GMT -5
It was crap long before that release to be fair. i think the world is better now than 50/100/150.. and so and years ago. that doesnst mean its good, but the western society tends to forget how good life is now in comparison. the internet makes people crazy For sure. We live in a far safer world now than ever. You're absolutely right about the internet, too. There was something I once heard that has stuck with me ever since: "The best thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice, and the worst thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice."
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Oct 22, 2018 14:18:15 GMT -5
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Post by funhouse on Oct 22, 2018 14:31:56 GMT -5
It was crap long before that release to be fair. i think the world is better now than 50/100/150.. and so and years ago. that doesnst mean its good, but the western society tends to forget how good life is now in comparison. the internet makes people crazy For some reason I ended up watching a video yesterday of the top 10 most horrific torture methods used during the Middle Ages, and... yeah, you're right.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 22, 2018 15:00:27 GMT -5
i think the world is better now than 50/100/150.. and so and years ago. that doesnst mean its good, but the western society tends to forget how good life is now in comparison. the internet makes people crazy For some reason I ended up watching a video yesterday of the top 10 most horrific torture methods used during the Middle Ages, and... yeah, you're right. Back when there was no democracy, no healthcare and people died from the flu. Those were the days my friend
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 22, 2018 15:14:58 GMT -5
It was crap long before that release to be fair. i think the world is better now than 50/100/150.. and so and years ago. that doesnst mean its good, but the western society tends to forget how good life is now in comparison. the internet makes people crazy Western society for sure, not sure about some other places.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 20:54:47 GMT -5
I used to be an atheist when I was younger. I dunno, I think wanted to rebel and think all the religions are shit, etc.
But now I'm definitely agnostic. I don't know what to believe but I know this universe is a mysterious place and I don't want to take anything for granted.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 8, 2018 12:13:14 GMT -5
I used to be an atheist when I was younger. I dunno, I think wanted to rebel and think all the religions are shit, etc. But now I'm definitely agnostic. I don't know what to believe but I know this universe is a mysterious place and I don't want to take anything for granted. Yeah, I was more bullish about atheism when I was younger - although it wasn't due to rebelling. I just don't believe in things without proof. I'm more of an agnostic these days. People say that's a cop out, which I think is grossly unfair. I think most people are the religion they were raised with by their parents. My family isn't religious, so it was never a part of my life.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 9, 2018 13:38:51 GMT -5
Stole this from Facebook. Really enjoyed reading. Make of it what you will....
In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”
“Nonsense” said the first. “There is no life after delivery. What kind of life would that be?” The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”
The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”
The second insisted, “Well I think there is something and maybe it’s different than it is here. Maybe we won’t need this physical cord anymore.”
The first replied, “Nonsense. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It takes us nowhere.”
“Well, I don’t know,” said the second, “but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us.” The first replied “Mother? You actually believe in Mother? That’s laughable. If Mother exists then where is She now?”
The second said, “She is all around us. We are surrounded by her. We are of Her. It is in Her that we live. Without Her this world would not and could not exist.”
Said the first: “Well I don’t see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn’t exist.”
To which the second replied, “Sometimes, when you’re in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.” - Útmutató a Léleknek
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 16:30:20 GMT -5
Make of it what you will.... ... My reading of that's not that interesting and massively reductionist : Everyone is as powerless to prevent their own deaths as they are to prevent their own births -- irrespective of their thoughts, words (in the case of life), and actions. Two foetuses having a philosophical conversation about post-birth is as (ir)relevant as one held between two (born) humans about the afterlife (or about football, politics, etc.), cos we all find out the result at the end anyway (miscarriage being an exception, but as this example appears to be intended as an extended metaphor for the afterlife, the exception appears to be more of the limitation of the metaphor than a non-trivial result -- we all die, but not everyone gets born alive). Anyway, I kinda felt that that example may on a surface level manage to convince (or at least provoke thought from) people that there is logic to the afterlife, but effectively it seemed to reduce to -we have no evidence for the afterlife -foetuses have no evidence for life after birth -we know for a fact that life does exist after birth -therefore there could be an afterlife? -...Or equivalently that logic could be used to hint at depth to any topic that we have no extensive knowledge of, from aliens to God to what happened before the Big Bang to what will happen tomorrow, etc. The amount of stuff we don't know, and how far (and surreally) that list extends; that just makes the whole thing seem specious and paper thin clickbait copypasta wankery (somewhat akin to what I've just typed if anyone's managed to slog it out to the end.) Although what you posted provokes thought if anyone wants it, fair play.
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