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Post by novascotialad on Apr 27, 2005 20:55:43 GMT -5
if the lads release 'let there be love' as a single, i think that it will have the same effect as wonderwall... you know how music types always refer to oasis as "the wonderwall band", well that fuckin winds me up... i think that this track has the 'cross over' ability to erase wonderwall from the casual fans memory, remember ladies and gentlemen, the ear has no memory.  |
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Post by thebluesgnr on Apr 27, 2005 20:59:43 GMT -5
Oasis has a ton of songs better than Wonderwall... but I think Let There Be Love is in a different category.
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 27, 2005 21:06:46 GMT -5
Oasis has a ton of songs better than Wonderwall... but I think Let There Be Love is in a different category. i totally agree, wonderwall ain't even in my top 25 oasis tunes.... the fact is, the casual fan ain't heard all the great songs put out by our band... |
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Post by Jabasso on Apr 27, 2005 21:09:49 GMT -5
Yeah. Wonderwall is a pop song. LTBL isn't a pop song. It's an epic. Neither on can replace the other. They're just too different.
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Apr 27, 2005 21:18:46 GMT -5
Noel said somewhere in an interview that Stop Crying Your Heart Out will be the new Wonderwall...and SCYHO is pretty poppy as well, and see how well that caught on...I love LTBL, but I don't think it will have the same effect because Oasis isn't all that popular here anymore...
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 27, 2005 22:40:47 GMT -5
Noel said somewhere in an interview that Stop Crying Your Heart Out will be the new Wonderwall...and SCYHO is pretty poppy as well, and see how well that caught on...I love LTBL, but I don't think it will have the same effect because Oasis isn't all that popular here anymore... agreed, oasis are not that popular here anymore, but i just have a feeling that if this song gets released as a single, oasis may regain some of that fanbase. |
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Post by shakermaker00 on Apr 27, 2005 22:49:27 GMT -5
if you really get into oasis you'll hardly find wonderwall the best song. initially wonderwall got very mixed reactions by the press, then it was released and everyone jumped on the bandwagon. the few dbtt reviews have already praised ltbl, the same happened with the powerballads or whatever you wanna call em on hc, scyho and lbl got mega reactions before the release. classic oasis etc.
scyho in perticular did very very well for oasis during englands departure and all that crap.
anyway, the song will go number one in the uk and stay no longer than 2 weeks. which is better than wonderwall so there ya go
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Post by ivaldos on Apr 27, 2005 23:01:04 GMT -5
Ok. SCYHO is a very pop Oasis song and I like it a lot. But I think and I feel that LTBL is different man... Its BIG! Beautiful, fantastic...
But on the other hand, I think as it's a slow song I don't feel that LTBL will take the Wanderwall road...
AND YES, ITS A FUCKING CLASSIC... TOU'LL SEE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2005 23:16:43 GMT -5
guys you all know how much i love the band,,but in no way will LTBL do for them what wonderwall did cause the time for OASIS to sell like that is gone,,yes they can sell out stadiums ,msg, there fans are loyal ,,but look at U2 they can sell out everywhere but the sales figures for there last lp wont touch joshau tree when EVERYONE had to own a copy of it, SPRINGSTEEN was acclaimed for "the rising " it sold nowhere near" born in the usa " "let there be love" is amazing (as i told you all weeks ago) but OASIS are now a band for the ages like the stones there albums will sell well at first but the kids are not gonna buy like back when they were fashionable,coldplay,franz ferdinand might sell better cause of the kids but when concert time comes OASIS are the kings, ITS LIKE the stones they can come out with another "SATISFACTION " but the rap dominated music scene wont buy it like they did in 64 but when the stones tour they will sell more tickets than 50cent,mm,destinys child combined ,even though they will crush the stones in record sales today, lets enjoy the lp its brilliant but we are not gonna recapture wonderwall hysteria,i was at KNEBWORTH it was magic and its something you cant recapture...jmo |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Apr 27, 2005 23:23:44 GMT -5
I totally agree with kalas. No band can return to the "Glory Days" where they are young, idealistic, and their music is raw, pure, and incredibly inspired and classic. I'm in no way saying Oasis now lacks these qualities, but can anyone honestly say that anything after Be Here Now can truly compare? The days of Liam's old voice have moved on, and Oasis' brief stint as the top of the pops has as well...they've created an almost cult-like following, a devoted following of people like us who know they possess the most vision and spirit of any band out there, but at the same time they don't have the universal appeal to regain that old position as a worldwide phenomenon...
"All of the stars, we're fading away, just try not to worry, you'll see us someday"
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Post by shakermaker00 on Apr 27, 2005 23:25:57 GMT -5
agree with kalas. people who like acts who are popular don't really like them for their music but more for their popularity. thats why 50 cent or whoever you want to fill into that bracket couldnt sell as many tickets as u2 eventhough the album marginally outsells u2.
music has always been a popularity thing, thats why indie music or whatever you want to call it is so big in new york. the scene in ny is there and it automatically makes the appeal to the ordinary person.
i don't think i'm bringing my point across properly, what i'm trying to say is that the mainstream success of bands doesnt matter at all. fuck i'm losing it again
fuckin booze aaaaaaaaaaaaarg
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2005 23:28:56 GMT -5
I totally agree with kalas. No band can return to the "Glory Days" where they are young, idealistic, and their music is raw, pure, and incredibly inspired and classic. I'm in no way saying Oasis now lacks these qualities, but can anyone honestly say that anything after Be Here Now can truly compare? The days of Liam's old voice have moved on, and Oasis' brief stint as the top of the pops has as well...they've created an almost cult-like following, a devoted following of people like us who know they possess the most vision and spirit of any band out there, but at the same time they don't have the universal appeal to regain that old position as a worldwide phenomenon... "All of the stars, we're fading away, just try not to worry, you'll see us someday" agreed to me what i have heard (and i have heard 8 tunes) 9 counting eyeball is awesome ,its a better rock record than anything that will come out ,but the kids look at them as legends and "old" that bein said if OASIS played knebworth this year they could play as many nights as they wanted cause real music lovers know a great band ,but they dont buy new music like we do |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Apr 27, 2005 23:31:17 GMT -5
Totally. All I have to say is I love this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2005 23:35:26 GMT -5
Totally. All I have to say is I love this forum. its a quality forum ,good people for the most part you will always have the odd person postin something to stir the pot but in general guys like anthmcc,lionsden,dixon,pizzy,nyr,belfastdon,(there are so many others but u get the drift) they make this forum worth coming to and postin opinions |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2005 23:37:26 GMT -5
Totally. All I have to say is I love this forum. and its why i am goin thru hoops tryin to set up the meeting in nyc if the majority of people were no SO FUCKIN COOL i would get hammered with my mates but i want to meet and drink with the people here |
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Post by Clint on Apr 27, 2005 23:43:54 GMT -5
Lots of people are actually talking about Oasis at my school. I don't know. They have lots of younger fans.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2005 23:47:44 GMT -5
Lots of people are actually talking about Oasis at my school. I don't know. They have lots of younger fans. dude..i hope your right nothing would please me more than to recapture 95 but even the beatles never recaptured "beatlmania" they were still gods but the frenzy died down..i hope the lp sells 5 million here but if it gets 2 million i will be extatic |
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Post by mcdougall on Apr 27, 2005 23:57:57 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think a big reason Oasis lost alot of popularity in North America was horrible advertising from Sony. When SCYHO came out, everyone i showed it to either had heard it and loved it or said they loved it from one listen (one of my friends actually had tears)....yet HC was never adveritsed here (I'm in Canada) and they soild a gigantic 144,000 copies in the U.S....about a 30th of Morning Glory.....now until I looked on the internet, I hadn't seen an Oasis video since All Around The World. Today I turned on Much More Music and Lyla was #1 on the countdown....I also noticed places like HMV were actually advertisng DBTT. Now while I think Lyla's a great tune, I think SCYHO was sensational....and everyuone had heard it...but nobody knew it was Oasis.... Now that they're getting some advertising here, everyone I know is planning on getting the album the day it comes out.... so while I think acheiving Wonderwall status is nearly impossible, with some proper adveritising from Sony LTBL could easily propel them into mainstream again..... they have the fans....they sold out Madison Square Gardens a minute faster than U2 did.....now all they need is some proper advertising to gat what I think may be there best album out to the fans...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2005 0:02:29 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think a big reason Oasis lost alot of popularity in North America was horrible advertising from Sony. When SCYHO came out, everyone i showed it to either had heard it and loved it or said they loved it from one listen (one of my friends actually had tears)....yet HC was never adveritsed here (I'm in Canada) and they soild a gigantic 144,000 copies in the U.S....about a 30th of Morning Glory.....now until I looked on the internet, I hadn't seen an Oasis video since All Around The World. Today I turned on Much More Music and Lyla was #1 on the countdown....I also noticed places like HMV were actually advertisng DBTT. Now while I think Lyla's a great tune, I think SCYHO was sensational....and everyuone had heard it...but nobody knew it was Oasis.... Now that they're getting some advertising here, everyone I know is planning on getting the album the day it comes out.... so while I think acheiving Wonderwall status is nearly impossible, with some proper adveritising from Sony LTBL could easily propel them into mainstream again..... they have the fans....they sold out Madison Square Gardens a minute faster than U2 did.....now all they need is some proper advertising to gat what I think may be there best album out to the fans... welcome to the forum and thats a great first post but wat killed them here was there cancelled concerts,fuckin mtv (liam in trl and unplugged) and the medias perception of them they were answeing questions honestly saying things like "we dont care if we sell records here we are the best" and i loved it but most people here took it as arrogance and they stopped gettin airplay both on radio and mtv.. |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Apr 28, 2005 0:16:16 GMT -5
Gotta put Jabasso, Sunflower Gal, Mimmihops, and lionsden up there...all great people...
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Post by brumoscardo on Apr 28, 2005 0:16:51 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think a big reason Oasis lost alot of popularity in North America was horrible advertising from Sony. When SCYHO came out, everyone i showed it to either had heard it and loved it or said they loved it from one listen (one of my friends actually had tears)....yet HC was never adveritsed here (I'm in Canada) and they soild a gigantic 144,000 copies in the U.S....about a 30th of Morning Glory.....now until I looked on the internet, I hadn't seen an Oasis video since All Around The World. Today I turned on Much More Music and Lyla was #1 on the countdown....I also noticed places like HMV were actually advertisng DBTT. Now while I think Lyla's a great tune, I think SCYHO was sensational....and everyuone had heard it...but nobody knew it was Oasis.... Now that they're getting some advertising here, everyone I know is planning on getting the album the day it comes out.... so while I think acheiving Wonderwall status is nearly impossible, with some proper adveritising from Sony LTBL could easily propel them into mainstream again..... they have the fans....they sold out Madison Square Gardens a minute faster than U2 did.....now all they need is some proper advertising to gat what I think may be there best album out to the fans... indeed 100% agreed I've been defending that theory for a long time. Sony are lazy. and Noel did the right thing to get them sacked! |
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Post by mcdougall on Apr 28, 2005 0:17:47 GMT -5
welcome to the forum and thats a great first post but wat killed them here was there cancelled concerts,fuckin mtv (liam in trl and unplugged) and the medias perception of them they were answeing questions honestly saying things like "we dont care if we sell records here we are the best" and i loved it but most people here took it as arrogance and they stopped gettin airplay both on radio and mtv.. i personally hate mtv or muchmusic or any of the "young" music stations.....if they aren't promoting the g's with their hipocracies (go to church on sunday, get stoned and rob a liquor store monday), then they're promoting shows that really have nothing to do with music....(like seriousley, cribs is an interesting idea....but mtv stands for MUSIC television does it not?)....and even with the cancelled concert, guns and roses lasted here with all the cancelled concerts (and axl rose makes both liam and noel look like timid children with his ego), plus i'd rather have my favourite band be oasis who are honest...rather than the britney spears type who would claim they're a virgin to just sell records (did she honestly think we'd believe her?).... anyways.... in my final opinion i think that DBTT will outsell HC and SOTSOG combined in the states, if the singles are picked right and sony does some proper marketing....but the wonderwall days are over....they've been replaced by the g-units and the pop-punk bands (if anyone can honestly tell me green day didn't copy oasis with boulevard of broken dreams then they should be shot).....anyways my official prediction is platinum in canada and at least gold in the U.S....if LTBL catches on the way i think it might.... |
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Post by mcdougall on Apr 28, 2005 0:18:58 GMT -5
.... and to add to the green day/oasis thing.....i know alot of oasis' songs have strong influences from other songs, but thats part of their magic, they create the best of all worlds musically
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2005 0:19:03 GMT -5
Gotta put Jabasso, Sunflower Gal, Mimmihops, and lionsden up there...all great people... absolutly there are so many i was just namin a few that popped into this old head |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Apr 28, 2005 0:24:06 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone plays guitar, but if you play Wonderwall without the capo on the second fret, it's Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"...so while Green Day is one of the biggest bands in America right now, they've also nicked Oasis's most popular song in the United States to get there. Pretty ironic, if you ask me...
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