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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:35:07 GMT -5
i have just realised that between 00 and 05 noel has only released 13 tunes he wrote 7 on hc i believe and he has 6 on this one thats not alot of work for 5 damn years . when u take into account between 94 and 99 he released over 50 tunes it gets me wonderin if there will be another 3 year wait..i know he said they had 66 tunes but to only release 13 in 5 years is kinda limited no  not slaggin off the cheif u know i love them but is anyone else concerned with the cheif writer seemingly slowing down? |
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Post by pmg07 on Apr 21, 2005 16:38:35 GMT -5
i take it thats not including b sides. ive got to say tho his lyrics have matured as time has gone along
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Post by Berny on Apr 21, 2005 16:43:30 GMT -5
he wrote 7 on hc i believe and he has 6 on this one? Is it not 6 and 5? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:43:35 GMT -5
i take it thats not including b sides. ive got to say tho his lyrics have matured as time has gone along not including b sides..i guess i mean after 3 years i would have hoped we noel would have had more tunes than 6 he deemed good enough for the lp..the tunes are top but i fear we may wait til 08 or 09 for lp 7 |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Apr 21, 2005 16:44:16 GMT -5
I think that the really intersting thing is that as Liam has matured as a song writer he will pick up a lot of slack.
If that happens and Andy and Gem keep putting tunes forth, you get a very creative competition flowing.
Gallagher/Gallager the next Lennon/McCartney?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:45:56 GMT -5
u may be right liam had 3 on hc andy 1 gem 1 that means 6 on hc your right this lp i believe its liam 3 gem 2 andy 1 that leaves 5 yes your right ..11 tunes in 5 years ,not counting b sides depressing to mr |
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Post by shakermaker00 on Apr 21, 2005 16:47:01 GMT -5
and nobody really knows when he actually wrote those songs either. we know he wrote it's a crime prior to giants, put it on the demo's and then dumped it for 5 years. the vein of the other tunes is gona be different than this one but i still wouldnt be suprised if their resurections of prior sessions.
richard ashcroft did the same with most stuff he released by himself. dunno..they had all the crap they get from the papers
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Post by gastritispanic on Apr 21, 2005 16:47:37 GMT -5
I don't give fuck how long it takes them to make tunes.
Had they put out DBTT after glasto? I don't know if it had been bad, but I know it's good know!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:48:47 GMT -5
I think that the really intersting thing is that as Liam has matured as a song writer he will pick up a lot of slack. If that happens and Andy and Gem keep putting tunes forth, you get a very creative competition flowing. Gallagher/Gallager the next Lennon/McCartney? believe me i hope you are right! it just occured to me how long its been between lps and how little noel has written compared to the glory years,,i dont expect DM i know he has matured but i do expect more writing than 11 tunes |
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Post by anais on Apr 21, 2005 16:48:58 GMT -5
I think he wrote much more than that... I remember he mentioned songs like I live a dream in my record machine and even "famous" Stop the clocks.... I believe that he´s writing much more, than we know... And you have to notice, that in years 1994-1999 he didn´t write almost any songs... most of the songs from first three albums he wrote during is "inspiral carpets roadie" era...I read somewhere, that he wrote them in 14 days  It means, that now he´s writing much more than in second half of ninetees!!! |
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Post by pmg07 on Apr 21, 2005 16:50:52 GMT -5
if noel contributes 6 QUALITY tunes per album id prefer that to 6 quality and a few substandard ones. liams on the up and the new album indicates there are four quality writers in oasis -especially the 'liam assisted by gem' partnership. im hopin a new album will follow soon since the band arent touring next year (zak goes back to the who remember). who knows how long it will be but knowing oasis itl be ages  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:51:23 GMT -5
I don't give fuck how long it takes them to make tunes. Had they put out DBTT after glasto? I don't know if it had been bad, but I know it's good know!! i agree..i guess i just mean now that i have heard alot of the lp its gettin depressing that i think we will be waitin til 08 if this pace continues THE TUNES ARE GREAT ITS WHY I AM DEPRESSED! |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Apr 21, 2005 16:53:32 GMT -5
Love yer sig anais!!! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 16:55:24 GMT -5
NEW wallpaper  quality |
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Post by lionsden® on Apr 21, 2005 16:57:07 GMT -5
Wasn't SOTSOG released in 2000???
That would be 9 more
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Post by pmg07 on Apr 21, 2005 16:59:04 GMT -5
well i had sotsog tunes in late 1999 so they must have been written in 98-99
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 17:05:32 GMT -5
sorry if i came across as down,,u all know i love them and am not knockin NOEL at all.i just dont want another 3 year gap and judging by the pace of his writing i think that will happen...gem and andy will only be allowed so many tunes as will LIAM
NOEL does have a ego he will not allow a record out where he is not the lead horse...again jmo
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Post by pmg07 on Apr 21, 2005 17:07:49 GMT -5
fair point kalas but i really wish youre wrong so then we can get another album sooner, hell id even settle for some one-off singles like whatever!
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Apr 21, 2005 17:08:17 GMT -5
sorry if i came across as down,,u all know i love them and am not knockin NOEL at all.i just dont want another 3 year gap and judging by the pace of his writing i think that will happen...gem and andy will only be allowed so many tunes as will LIAM NOEL does have a ego he will not allow a record out where he is not the lead horse...again jmo I was always hoping for a Beatles type of release schedule where a new album came out every year or so!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2005 17:11:37 GMT -5
I was always hoping for a Beatles type of release schedule where a new album came out every year or so!! exactly! i would settle for 2 years but this 3 plus year gap sux |
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Post by anais on Apr 21, 2005 17:30:00 GMT -5
I prefer quality than quantity... but... to be honest, I would like to have new Oasis album every week!  |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Apr 21, 2005 17:39:09 GMT -5
Well, not matter what, our Chief won't let us down!  |
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Post by Clint on Apr 21, 2005 17:41:40 GMT -5
You can't leave out b-sides. But hey, they had a big break, plus, new songwriters-- Noel had to give room.
Oasis has just gone through some changes. I think songwriting partnerships would be interesting. And remember, this was going to be a double album-- Oasis have a lot of material left over and each of them are always writing tunes.
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Post by anthmcc on Apr 21, 2005 17:46:11 GMT -5
Kalas
I see your point. I know you're not knocking the Chief but you're getting a bit concerned that there's less activity from Noel. I agree with one of the other posters, I think he's getting alot more onto paper than through your speakers. That could be for a number of reasons. I happen to trhink of the following possibilities........
Noel is actually happier with the band these days than in the mid-nineties IMO. It was after SOTSOG that the songwriting started getting shared around. It's no co-incidence that around the same time Gem & Andy joined while Liam developed his talent for songwriting also. By '02, the first album that the 'new' band collectively worked on hit the scene with Liam having had 2/3 more years since Little James and Gem & Andy establishing themselves in the band. That album was of course HC which seen alot more sharing of the songwriting. As Noel is on record as saying, in the 90's the band was more of a lad culture, us & them type thing. Whereas these days it's more of a musical band. There's brainstorming, open forum and contributions from all angles which has eased the load on Noel. Gem has came in and put his piece in whilst helping to put Liam's ideas down into something tangible, Andy has come in and of course the Chief is still doing his thing.
There's also the issue of signing a new record deal. There's a bit of tension between he & Sony, which he makes no secret of, for example his comments (made publicly) regarding the choice of Lyla as the first single and how he wants to address that type of thing on the next deal.
To me, the DM and WTSMG songs are everything he was waiting to say all his life. He was born to make those records. Whereas now you can see he has matured and his more recent songs reflect his growth as a person and his experiences over the last number of years. Songs like Gas Panic talk of him coming off drugs, Part of The Queue is about how London's become overpopulated, soul-less and less like home.
To me, in summary, the songs of the mid 90's depict everything the man is about, and the more recent songs are memoirs of his life stage at the said point (ie 2001/2 for HC, 04/05 for DBTT etc
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Post by DixonHill on Apr 21, 2005 17:51:26 GMT -5
and don't forget about those 66 songs they demoed.
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