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Post by MG on Oct 11, 2006 17:46:54 GMT -5
Hows your country doing after the first few games?
Ireland got a respectable draw with the Czech Republic after a disasterus defeat to Cyprus.
Just back from the game, Man of the Match debutant Paul McShane was great in defence, Zidine Kilbane put Ireland 1 up but seconds later Jan "The Beast" Koller equalised.
Qualifing doesn't look the brightest with only 1 point from three games but fingers crossed.
The fans got behind the team today which is a very good sign after the uproar after the result 4 days ago.
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Post by globe on Oct 11, 2006 17:55:11 GMT -5
Well we got beat in the Ukraine the night, but 9 points outta 12 is a great start for us. We are in one hell of a tough group with Italy, France, Ukraine along with tough opponents in Georgia and Lithuania aswell. We probably wont qualify, but we will have some fun along the way
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Post by Moorish on Oct 12, 2006 4:10:24 GMT -5
Well, I am English so my national team is currently playing like a bunch of twats.
Nuff said.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 6:44:29 GMT -5
Well, I am English so my national team is currently playing like a bunch of twats. Nuff said. why do you say that?
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Post by Spider on Oct 12, 2006 10:33:43 GMT -5
Well, I am English so my national team is currently playing like a bunch of twats. Nuff said. why do you say that? Did you not see the Croatia game???
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Post by Liffonmelsmork on Oct 12, 2006 12:18:45 GMT -5
Aye, we're rubbish.
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Post by Bizzle on Oct 12, 2006 13:12:28 GMT -5
Yeah England suck and so does McLaren. Lampard pisses me off. The fat vagina is the pits for Engalnd and Gerrard can't play as a winger. I hope we keep 4-4-2 and that we play
Robinson Neville Terry Ferdinand A Cole Lennon Hargreaves(dm) Gerrard(am) J Cole Owen/Crouch Rooney
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Post by feckarse on Oct 12, 2006 13:29:21 GMT -5
Just back from the game, Man of the Match debutant Paul McShane was great in defence, Zidine Kilbane put Ireland 1 up but seconds later Jan "The Beast" Koller equalised. There myself, the crowd were absolutely berserk after the Irish goal, it was phenomenal!! Robbie Keane fluffed it big time at the end. Am delighted McShane had such a good game, perhaps now that tool Andy O'Brien won't get a look in no more!
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Post by feckarse on Oct 12, 2006 13:32:31 GMT -5
That was such an awful defensive blunder. Jaysus, schoolboys even know two of the very basic rules of defence: 1- If you're passing back to the keeper, do not pass it back 'on target', just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens. 2- If you're the keeper, and you're not under pressure, always stop the ball before clearing it, just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens Those rules were drilled into me when I was younger, and these guys claim to be professionals?!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 13:40:38 GMT -5
That was such an awful defensive blunder. Jaysus, schoolboys even know two of the very basic rules of defence: 1- If you're passing back to the keeper, do not pass it back 'on target', just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens. 2- If you're the keeper, and you're not under pressure, always stop the ball before clearing it, just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens Those rules were drilled into me when I was younger, and these guys claim to be professionals?!! what a load of shit
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Post by feckarse on Oct 12, 2006 14:22:32 GMT -5
What's a load of shit about that? I've always played as a defender and that stuff has been drilled into me. It costs you nothing... As a defender when possible you should never pass back to the face of the goal, you should always pass back to the left or right (i.e. in the direction of "wide", as strange incidents can and do happen the very odd time, such as the keeper tripping, ball hitting a divot, goalie stands on his shoelaces etc..... Similarly enough, if a keeper isn't under pressure and the ball is heading in the direction of the goal, he should always stop it before kicking it - a simple safety measure when he's not being pressured... I don't get why you say "what a load of shit" This really is very basic stuff, anyone who plays football, particularly in defence, will know these. Gary Neville & Paul Robinson, top level players at that, should have known far better to prevent that freak goal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2006 16:20:14 GMT -5
What's a load of shit about that? I've always played as a defender and that stuff has been drilled into me. It costs you nothing... As a defender when possible you should never pass back to the face of the goal, you should always pass back to the left or right (i.e. in the direction of "wide", as strange incidents can and do happen the very odd time, such as the keeper tripping, ball hitting a divot, goalie stands on his shoelaces etc..... Similarly enough, if a keeper isn't under pressure and the ball is heading in the direction of the goal, he should always stop it before kicking it - a simple safety measure when he's not being pressured... I don't get why you say "what a load of shit" This really is very basic stuff, anyone who plays football, particularly in defence, will know these. Gary Neville & Paul Robinson, top level players at that, should have known far better to prevent that freak goal. so you think that gary neville should pass the ball a couple of meters away from the player he wants it to go to and force them to run after the ball on the off chance that the groundsman haven't done their job properly. it was a freak one off, shit happens. next people will say you shouldn't tackle cos you might commit a foul. maybe gary neville should have cut his arms off so the penalty couldn't have been given against Reading.
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Post by irishmick06 on Oct 12, 2006 17:15:56 GMT -5
better performance from ireland, but its actually a dissapointing result for us when you think about it, 1 point from 3 games is pretty poor, have to say mc shane was imense the 1 time he did make a mistake and they score.
we should have won it, how robbie keane missed that header, i just do not know. plus i thought playing duff on the right was a mistake even though he set up zezus goal, hes a better player on the left!
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Post by irishmick06 on Oct 12, 2006 17:18:35 GMT -5
by the way ross what feck said about hitting it to the side of the keeper is very true, i thought every1 took that as common knowledge.
but all the same im glad he didnt lol
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Post by MG on Oct 12, 2006 17:32:37 GMT -5
better performance from ireland, but its actually a dissapointing result for us when you think about it, 1 point from 3 games is pretty poor, have to say mc shane was imense the 1 time he did make a mistake and they score. we should have won it, how robbie keane missed that header, i just do not know. plus i thought playing duff on the right was a mistake even though he set up zezus goal, hes a better player on the left! cant play Duff and Kilbane both on the left, thats why Duffer was shifted to the opposite side, more versatile, prefere him on the left but when you dont have to players to cover, you cant do much.
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Post by halftheworld on Oct 12, 2006 18:41:11 GMT -5
That was such an awful defensive blunder. Jaysus, schoolboys even know two of the very basic rules of defence: 1- If you're passing back to the keeper, do not pass it back 'on target', just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens. 2- If you're the keeper, and you're not under pressure, always stop the ball before clearing it, just incase any freak incident, such as a bobble, happens Those rules were drilled into me when I was younger, and these guys claim to be professionals?!! i was drilled the same way! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 6:59:34 GMT -5
Paul Robinson said
"I look at the incident and it was just a ridiculous fluke but it was reported as a mistake, as my fault"
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Post by feckarse on Oct 13, 2006 13:13:49 GMT -5
so you think that gary neville should pass the ball a couple of meters away from the player he wants it to go to and force them to run after the ball on the off chance that the groundsman haven't done their job properly. it was a freak one off, shit happens. next people will say you shouldn't tackle cos you might commit a foul. maybe gary neville should have cut his arms off so the penalty couldn't have been given against Reading. Yes the Neviller should have passed to a metre or so away from Robinson. Robinson, under zero pressure, would still have very easily have collected the ball and that's exactly why you do it. To prevent a freak incident. And you know what, one-offs do happen, and you shouldn't let them happen to you if you can easily prevent them without any additional consequence (which is the difference on your utterly ridiculous other point regarding tackling). by the way ross what feck said about hitting it to the side of the keeper is very true, i thought every1 took that as common knowledge. i was drilled the same way! ;D Thank you!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 13:37:39 GMT -5
so you think that gary neville should pass the ball a couple of meters away from the player he wants it to go to and force them to run after the ball on the off chance that the groundsman haven't done their job properly. it was a freak one off, shit happens. next people will say you shouldn't tackle cos you might commit a foul. maybe gary neville should have cut his arms off so the penalty couldn't have been given against Reading. Yes the Neviller should have passed to a metre or so away from Robinson. Robinson, under zero pressure, would still have very easily have collected the ball and that's exactly why you do it. To prevent a freak incident. And you know what, one-offs do happen, and you shouldn't let them happen to you if you can easily prevent them without any additional consequence (which is the difference on your utterly ridiculous other point regarding tackling). i was drilled the same way! ;D Thank you!! if the ball was a meter away from him and flicked up like it did, it still would have gone in.
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Post by feckarse on Oct 13, 2006 14:09:49 GMT -5
if the ball was a meter away from him and flicked up like it did, it still would have gone in. It would have gone out for a corner if Neville had played it as he should and it flicked up like it did. But I'm not going to entertain this discussion any more, and I'll finish on a note pointing out I'd be surprised if I saw Neville passing back towards the face of the goal like that again any time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 15:06:57 GMT -5
if the ball was a meter away from him and flicked up like it did, it still would have gone in. It would have gone out for a corner if Neville had played it as he should and it flicked up like it did. But I'm not going to entertain this discussion any more, and I'll finish on a note pointing out I'd be surprised if I saw Neville passing back towards the face of the goal like that again any time soon. you're right just watched it again wasn't a meter inside the post, so would have been a corner. however i see nothing wrong with what neville or robinson did it was just bad luck. there were far bigger problems with the england performance than that.
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