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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2006 12:59:16 GMT -5
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson believes football's rules are loaded in favour of divers.
"The problem has been there for quite a few years and it is obvious it has got worse," said Ferguson. "The difficult thing is how do you stop it.
"The players diving have an advantage over the ones making a tackle.
"A lad going to make an honest tackle can receive a red card yet referees can only give the guy, who cheats to win a penalty or someone sent, off a yellow."
Chelsea striker Didier Drogba was accused of diving at the weekend - prompting a fresh debate about the issue.
United players Cristiano Ronaldo and Ruud van Nistelrooy have also been accused of similar offences in the past.
Ferguson added: "You could give someone two yellows I suppose but that is not going to have any impact. It is a discrepancy which is always going to cause controversy."
The Old Trafford boss is rarely a fan of referees but revealed he does have some sympathy for the officials trying to marshal the game.
He said: "The jostling emerged four or five years ago and it is getting worse all the time.
"It is taken from Italian football because when you see one of their games, it is like watching a wrestling match.
"You can't get a free-kick or a corner kick without having an absolute melee.
"They are all doing it and it is an impossible task for a referee to sort it out. Even if you had six referees they would find it difficult."
Chelsea wingers Shaun Wright-Phillips and Arjen Robben have also been accused of diving recently but Chelsea assistant manager Steve Clarke says stricter rules over tackling could be to blame.
Clarke said: "I think the problems with diving and cheating that everybody keeps talking about have developed because players are not allowed to make tackles.
"It's less of a contact sport than before. So if there is contact, people are going down."
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 28, 2006 13:30:24 GMT -5
Football is a sport to be played while you're standing up. Tackles are not football. It's a non sportive play. It should be a straight away red card and foul. Diving happens when the player is all alone and he falls down. When there's fisical contact - and football is a game full of those, the chances to someone fall in the field are very high. So no one can be blamed for falling down.
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Post by Moorish on Mar 29, 2006 11:39:24 GMT -5
Tackles are not football. Errrr.... you are WRONG. A great, well-timed tackle is as vital a part of football as great dribbling, ball skills, shooting, etc. Football IS a contact sport. Now obviously fouls are somehitng no one particularly likes and diving is appalling (as well as hand bnalling, fucking Drogba is unbelievable...) Tackles are an intrinsic part of football. It's a fucking ART. |
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Post by Moorish on Mar 29, 2006 11:40:08 GMT -5
Oh, and P.S., I hope Fergie had this talk with some of his own players (as mentioned above, Ronalso, Van Nistelroy = diving bastards).
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Post by tezza202 on Mar 29, 2006 12:02:03 GMT -5
Tackles are not football. Errrr.... you are WRONG. A great, well-timed tackle is as vital a part of football as great dribbling, ball skills, shooting, etc. Football IS a contact sport. Now obviously fouls are somehitng no one particularly likes and diving is appalling (as well as hand bnalling, fucking Drogba is unbelievable...) Tackles are an intrinsic part of football. It's a fucking ART. 100% agree! Tackling is just as important as any other part in football, if not more important. I'm a defender so reading that is annoying to say the least! - Defenders never get the credit they deserve. |
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Post by MG on Mar 29, 2006 12:04:08 GMT -5
you cant beat sliding 10 yards to win the ball to stop and attack getting through on goal on a wet and mucky day in November!
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 29, 2006 13:25:09 GMT -5
Tackles are not football. Errrr.... you are WRONG. A great, well-timed tackle is as vital a part of football as great dribbling, ball skills, shooting, etc. Football IS a contact sport. Now obviously fouls are somehitng no one particularly likes and diving is appalling (as well as hand bnalling, fucking Drogba is unbelievable...) Tackles are an intrinsic part of football. It's a fucking ART.  Well.. it's hard to talk to the english about football.. and yes. If the objective of the match was to destroy and not make any goals, england would be an obvious number one. Till then, let's stick to what we've got.. |
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Post by tezza202 on Mar 29, 2006 13:38:42 GMT -5
Well.. it's hard to talk to the english about football.. Whats that suppose to mean? Tackling is just as important as scoring, or your fancy tricks. If theres If theres no one there to tackle, then all the goals you'll score are useless because no one will stop the others from scoring. If you don't know that you son't know much about football.. actually I'm guessing you don't know the difference between a tackle and a foul. |
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 29, 2006 14:50:38 GMT -5
Well.. it's hard to talk to the english about football.. Whats that suppose to mean? That they are known as being a defensive team and violent too. actually I'm guessing you don't know the difference between a tackle and a foul. I wasn't too specific but I'm reffering to the sliding ones which I thought the article was talking about too. And I know you know the difference of those ones. If theres If theres no one there to tackle, then all the goals you'll score are useless because no one will stop the others from scoring. I know. But it's not as important as you say it is. Pelé's Santos was weak on defence but the games always ended up as 7x4 or whatever. Not an 1x0 from the Gerrard's Liverpool. And you're right. If the referees allow some defensive teams to be violent they really can get very far. Just take a look at the WC 66's Portugal. |
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Post by tezza202 on Mar 29, 2006 15:18:31 GMT -5
Haha England violent? Please.. the fans may have had a reputation for being violent but I've never heard of the actual English team being violent. Maybe its because the south americans aren't used to the way most English teams play?
England may be more defensive than Brazil, but when they're attacking I wouldn't want to be the defence playing against Owen, Rooney, Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard.
Theres nothing wrong with a sliding tackle unless studs are being shown or if its from behind. Remember its a contact sport, and a MANS game might I add, so players should expect to get a few bruises now and then.
And what would have happened if Pele Santos wasn't playing? You'd need a good defence then, wouldn't you?
You'd be nowhere without a good defence. Its just as important as any other position. You can score as many goals as you want, but if you haven't got a good defence stopping the opposition you're fooked.
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Post by mape on Mar 29, 2006 22:29:30 GMT -5
the world cup is just around the corner... we're going to see a lot of portugese and spanish players doing random grass inspections more often than not.
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 29, 2006 22:31:35 GMT -5
Fair enough. You would be a defender in my team. But just because you're british. ;D
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Post by tezza202 on Mar 30, 2006 5:07:08 GMT -5
I suppose you need someone reliable to clean up your mess..  |
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Post by brumoscardo on Apr 1, 2006 13:58:23 GMT -5
Did you read what Ronaldinho said about Chelsea the other day? Just to point that out.. ;D
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Well.. it's hard to talk to the english about football.. and yes. If the objective of the match was to destroy and not make any goals, england would be an obvious number one. Till then, let's stick to what we've got..
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