obaki69
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Post by obaki69 on Aug 2, 2024 15:52:24 GMT -5
In the spirit of the upcoming announcement and to be positive, I will be deleting this post. I wish nothing but peace & love to you all and Kyle/OCG.
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Post by welshylad on Aug 3, 2024 2:09:29 GMT -5
He did say in a post yesterday (i think) that he was having a break from everything as he’s fallen behind posting things due to having cancer etc. Personally I would give him the benefit of the doubt as i’ve dealt with him alot with no issues at all
Im not saying youre lying or anything but maybe cut him for some slack for a bit longer? He said he was posting the final items to people who are owed
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Post by Loaded Silence on Aug 3, 2024 3:00:14 GMT -5
I've spoken to Kyle on a few occasions and he seems a honest, trustworthy and hardworking chap, who has done a lot for the community. He's had some health issues recently and just yesterday posted that he's taking a step back from OCG due to taking on too much at once. Personally, I agree with welshy, to give him the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.
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Post by AppleScruff on Aug 3, 2024 9:23:01 GMT -5
I'm not one to air dirty laundry in the group or in public, but my recent experience with Kyle Dale has to be known. If this post gets removed, fine, I will repost online elsewhere on other sites so I know it gets heard. I had an agreed upon deal with Kyle for some DATs, Oasis lockup notebook, CDs, itinerary, and an unreleased track. My top item in 20+ years of collecting Oasis memorabilia has been to get my hands on an unreleased track. This whole conversation happened over a month ago (June 27th). I paid around $1700 total for the lot. First it was a misplaced cd, then it was he went on vacation, then the courier service missed a pickup, then he said he was having a hard time, then he got a new phone, then he said the picked up the package and a FedEx label was created. For the past week I have messaged Kyle via WhatsApp trying to get a status on the package, FedEx still showed label created. No response. This morning I ask where my package was and Kyle immediately sent me money via Paypal. I want people to know what is going on and the utter dishonesty from the creator of this wonderful group. This place has been a great peek into other Oasis fan's collections and has been a source of enjoyment for years at this point. Now it is all driven by money and dishonesty. Every other member has been straight forward and transparent in every other deal. So take this information to heart and think hard about continuing to support BSW or OCG. I didn't want to post this in public, but now I have no choice. Utterly disappointed and angry at the same time. I can post screenshots of the entire WhatsApp conversation if needed. If my integrity gets questioned I might have to. So you have been refunded then? Kyle is as honest as they come. Totally appreciate your frustration when you’re looking forward to obtaining some great items. But sometimes there are reasons/circumstances where things don’t go to plan. If you’ve been refunded, you can write this one off as a frustrating experience but not something that defines Kyle?
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obaki69
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Post by obaki69 on Aug 3, 2024 10:16:32 GMT -5
I respect your opinions and am not going to hold a personal vendetta. There are plenty of things behind the scenes that I will not put out there publicly that also speak to the intent/character of him.
If he was doing so bad why is he traveling to Abbey Road, Manchester, and other places when he could have easily popped this in the mail. And he sent out multiple other pieces to OCG members during that time
Why? Because there was also a DAT found and part of the deal that potentially could have some new unheard stuff. He wanted to keep it for himself.
If you knew what goes on behind the scenes with him and a few other "well known" collectors you would have a different opinion. This is not the first time something like this has happened to me involving that group of uber collectors.
I will leave it at that.
Just be careful folks. That's all I am gonna say.
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Post by AppleScruff on Aug 3, 2024 13:38:22 GMT -5
Re above, this is just the reality of collecting mate is it not?
You agree a deal but until the items are sent/with you, there is no guarantee. It may sound harsh but we all buy things because we’re happy that we are getting a good deal…. If the person decides to renege on that and you get your money back it’s just part of the game mate in my opinion.
You’ve not been ripped off
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Aug 3, 2024 16:22:02 GMT -5
Kyle is a liar. If you read his historical of messages you will see he has used personal issues as a excuse several times already
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Post by Loaded Silence on Aug 3, 2024 16:39:02 GMT -5
Kyle is a liar. If you read his historical of messages you will see he has used personal issues as a excuse several times already I think Kyle has openly said that he has dealt with cancer recently. As someone who will live with cancer for the rest of my life (hopefully a very long one) it is very easy for us to bite of more than we can chew, even under normal circumstances. I know that the Dr's have advised me on many occasions to never work again, however, every once in a while I convince myself I'm miraculously cured and freelance work, I very quickly realise that I'm not. Couple this with a young family, all the stresses of day to day life, cost of living worries and everything on the news and personal issues add up, and they can happen much more than once. Personally, I'm grateful for everything Kyle has contributed to our fantastic community, it seems as though the OP has been refunded, I understand that he was hurt he never received his item, however, in the bigger picture, is it really that important? Life gets in the way sometimes, and we have unreleased things that I know we would not have without Kyles generosity. To call him a liar is very unfair imo.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 3, 2024 20:36:51 GMT -5
Kyle is a liar. If you read his historical of messages you will see he has used personal issues as a excuse several times already If you going to make an accusation like that, you should provide evidence of it.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Aug 4, 2024 1:05:12 GMT -5
Kyle is a liar. If you read his historical of messages you will see he has used personal issues as a excuse several times already If you going to make an accusation like that, you should provide evidence of it. His own messages are evidence. Sometimes he does a good job. Sometimes he doesn’t. He is a human being as me and you. Nothing new or not expected here. Have a nice Sunday.
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 4, 2024 5:58:35 GMT -5
I don't know Kyle personally, but a good friend of mine does. Judging from what I've told about him by my friend, he seems a good guy who's willing to share so many Oasis rare materials. Though I feel sorry for obaki66, I suppose there's always risk for trading rare stuff. But it's not fair to jump on and pointing him out as a liar. I'm not a member of OCG, but my friend told me yesterday that Kyle is struggling with cancer. All I want is wishing him the very best. If this thread turn to be name calling, we'll close this thread. Thank you. Also wishing you and your family a very best, Loaded Silence. I lost my dearest mum and mother-in-law by cancer, so I know how hard it is for family to coping with it.
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Post by evenbetter on Aug 4, 2024 6:13:13 GMT -5
Obviously if Kyle is struggling with Cancer then that is a horrible thing to deal with. Best to him.
As for his original facebook page, it just wasn't for me. It felt very cult like, i felt left out and a result wasn't on the page for very long.
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Post by Loaded Silence on Aug 4, 2024 7:36:12 GMT -5
I don't know Kyle personally, but a good friend of mine does. Judging from what I've told about him by my friend, he seems a good guy who's willing to share so many Oasis rare materials. Though I feel sorry for obaki66, I suppose there's always risk for trading rare stuff. But it's not fair to jump on and pointing him out as a liar. I'm not a member of OCG, but my friend told me yesterday that Kyle is struggling with cancer. All I want is wishing him the very best. If this thread turn to be name calling, we'll close this thread. Thank you. Also wishing you and your family a very best, Loaded Silence . I lost my dearest mum and mother-in-law by cancer, so I know how hard it is for family to coping with it. Thank you so much for your kind words mimmihopps. I'm fortunate, I'm able to live with it, hopefully for many years, thanks to the advances of medicine. I'm so sorry to you for your losses, and to everyone who has lost or has people suffering with this horrible disease.
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Post by standonit on Aug 4, 2024 8:24:24 GMT -5
Obviously if someone is unwell or dealing with other troubles then things can go wrong, and it's not nice to hound them or call them names if that's the case. However, if you've sent someone money (particularly a large sum) and been met with behaviour like this, I think it's natural to feel like you're being taken for a ride and you're possibly not dealing with someone who's being completely honest: First it was a misplaced cd, then it was he went on vacation, then the courier service missed a pickup, then he said he was having a hard time, then he got a new phone, then he said the picked up the package and a FedEx label was created. It doesn't take much to just be straight and say "I haven't been well, I'll just refund you rather than go on with the deal" and that's the end of it. I'm sure we've all took part in online transactions, and when different excuses start appearing it causes alarm bells. I'm sure Kyle (or anyone else) would feel the same if they transferred thousands to someone and were met with the same kind of thing, it's something to bear in mind. It sounds like an unfortunate situation all round.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 4, 2024 13:31:47 GMT -5
I don’t know Kyle from Adam so I can’t vouch for his character one way or the other.
But I think from the publicly available information it’s quite clear he visibly HAS had a lot going on. Between organising the exhibitions and losing an eye to cancer I think he probably deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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obaki69
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Post by obaki69 on Aug 4, 2024 21:07:40 GMT -5
I don't know Kyle personally, but a good friend of mine does. Judging from what I've told about him by my friend, he seems a good guy who's willing to share so many Oasis rare materials. Though I feel sorry for obaki66, I suppose there's always risk for trading rare stuff. But it's not fair to jump on and pointing him out as a liar. I'm not a member of OCG, but my friend told me yesterday that Kyle is struggling with cancer. All I want is wishing him the very best. If this thread turn to be name calling, we'll close this thread. Thank you. Also wishing you and your family a very best, Loaded Silence. I lost my dearest mum and mother-in-law by cancer, so I know how hard it is for family to coping with it. I lost my Mom to cancer so I am not being an unsympathetic asshole. There is more to the story that I am not going to share. @mimmihops you can close this thread, but it doesnt change what is really going on. People get blinded by shiny things. My life is perfect. I am trying to gain nothing. Just pointing out the truth.
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 5, 2024 1:40:36 GMT -5
I don't know Kyle personally, but a good friend of mine does. Judging from what I've told about him by my friend, he seems a good guy who's willing to share so many Oasis rare materials. Though I feel sorry for obaki66, I suppose there's always risk for trading rare stuff. But it's not fair to jump on and pointing him out as a liar. I'm not a member of OCG, but my friend told me yesterday that Kyle is struggling with cancer. All I want is wishing him the very best. If this thread turn to be name calling, we'll close this thread. Thank you. Also wishing you and your family a very best, Loaded Silence. I lost my dearest mum and mother-in-law by cancer, so I know how hard it is for family to coping with it. I lost my Mom to cancer so I am not being an unsympathetic asshole. There is more to the story that I am not going to share. @mimmihops you can close this thread, but it doesnt change what is really going on. People get blinded by shiny things. My life is perfect. I am trying to gain nothing. Just pointing out the truth. Please don't get me wrong. Me saying that this thread might have to be closed wasn't pointing out at you, but in general. Sometimes threads get derailed and messy and if it happens, we have to step in. I'm sorry for your loss and nobody thinks you're asshole. When I read this thread of yours, I immidately contacted my friend in Manchester who knows Kyle and asked him what's going on. All I heard from my friend that Kyle is having a cancer and decided to step back from OCG and his mate David has taken over the OCG's activity. My friend isn't involved with this at all. I do feel sorry for you about all those issues and I appreciate that you wanted to warn us, but I do think there's always two sides of story and none of us on here has a right to judge you nor Kyle. We'll keep this thread open.
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Post by morning_rain on Aug 5, 2024 3:30:47 GMT -5
I don't know Kyle personally, but a good friend of mine does. Judging from what I've told about him by my friend, he seems a good guy who's willing to share so many Oasis rare materials. Though I feel sorry for obaki66, I suppose there's always risk for trading rare stuff. But it's not fair to jump on and pointing him out as a liar. I'm not a member of OCG, but my friend told me yesterday that Kyle is struggling with cancer. All I want is wishing him the very best. If this thread turn to be name calling, we'll close this thread. Thank you. Also wishing you and your family a very best, Loaded Silence. I lost my dearest mum and mother-in-law by cancer, so I know how hard it is for family to coping with it. I lost my Mom to cancer so I am not being an unsympathetic asshole. There is more to the story that I am not going to share. @mimmihops you can close this thread, but it doesnt change what is really going on. People get blinded by shiny things. My life is perfect. I am trying to gain nothing. Just pointing out the truth. I'm not trying to push you to tell the whole thing but you have to understand if you only post part of it and that part is "he refunded me because he has cancer" we can't be that supportive. Obviously all the best to Kyle and hoping he gets better soon. However I can understand your frustration and would feel the same in your situation.
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Post by KyleBHome on Aug 23, 2024 11:59:55 GMT -5
Hi all, sorry once again I havent been on here for a long time, crazy busy atm and now admit I need to get some help as standards have slipped evidently. This was an entertaining read to come back to though.... I'm not a scammer, I'm not a liar, I'm a one man company trying to put on a few good events for fans with unheard content where possible. It's very easy to have a dig about this stuff for the average person but I send around 10-15 packages a day on average across all avenues so its a tad different.
I did add a post explaining my struggles with time, as I am now deep into the set up of London, Liverpool and Japan exhibitions. I should still keep up with deals if getting paid though I admit... (90% of packages go the day after btw), just that 2 month period wasnt easy.
I have had Cancer 3 times and recently lost an eye from it BUT I havent used that as an excuse once. It did lose me 6 weeks before the Manchester exhibition so that wasnt great, the knock on effect was massive but back to best now.
Personally I couldnt care less if the Facebook group feels like a 'cult'....crazy way to describe it...I dont act in any way high and mighty and seem to be quite appreciated for getting thousands of items signed for people whilst adding any content I can online....but hey ho, its a group of nice folk showing items. I have had to step back anyway so the cult feeling may disappear now Kyle 'the dishonest liar scum' leader is gone eh
Onto this exact deal, the subject of this thread.... I did take weeks as I did go on holiday right after payment, then as correctly stated one of the items I couldnt find when home. (Can you imagine how much stuff there is in my storage atm after that exhibition? A LOT). Also correctly mentioned was Abbey Road visits so I was away again during this month in London then Liverpool. I was home for about a week.
Anyway....truth be told I had heard about some items being resold and touted around in the US that sounded very similar to these being sold.
It may or may not have been these items but that did stop and make me think for a few days whether it was worth it as I'd done an amazing deal on this bundle as we had previously done deals before, so if it was these items it would have been a kick in the bollock. I thought it best to cancel the deal and fully refund. .............. "I want people to know what is going on and the utter dishonesty from the creator of this wonderful group. This place has been a great peek into other Oasis fan's collections and has been a source of enjoyment for years at this point. Now it is all driven by money and dishonesty." - Incorrect, one deal doesnt warrant that daft statement. Dramatic drivel. Whats going on? One deal in a month where I did around 500 went wrong, wow
"Why? Because there was also a DAT found and part of the deal that potentially could have some new unheard stuff. He wanted to keep it for himself." - Do you REALLY think this is true? If anything its better with me as I'd upload it online or send it back for release. Get a grip
To end, no one has been scammed, no one has lost a penny, IN FACT I SENT YOU A FEW DIGITAL FILES VIA DROPBOX EARLY ON, I'm very genuinely sorry it didnt happen but it just didnt 'feel' right. These childish posts online havent worked on any platform.... why? BECAUSE IM NOT WHAT YOU SAY I AM AND YOU KNOW IT.
UK Tour with an Oasis name due early next year playing unseen footage, London exhibition 18th - 20th October, Press Party 7th Nov at The Cavern, King Tuts anniversary show next March.... hopefully see some of you there.
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Post by Sadie on Aug 23, 2024 12:10:33 GMT -5
UK Tour with an Oasis name due early next year playing unseen footage, London exhibition 18th - 20th October, Press Party 7th Nov at The Cavern, King Tuts anniversary show next March.... hopefully see some of you there. Any info about all this? Sounds amazing! I might have to try and make it to the thing in London should everything go well
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Post by KyleBHome on Aug 23, 2024 12:12:16 GMT -5
UK Tour with an Oasis name due early next year playing unseen footage, London exhibition 18th - 20th October, Press Party 7th Nov at The Cavern, King Tuts anniversary show next March.... hopefully see some of you there. Any info about all this? Sounds amazing! I might have to try and make it to the thing in London should everything go well Earliest stages on this event but it's going to be MASSIVE across a month. I'll add info once the venues are all confirmed mate
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Post by Loaded Silence on Aug 23, 2024 12:52:42 GMT -5
Hi all, sorry once again I havent been on here for a long time, crazy busy atm and now admit I need to get some help as standards have slipped evidently. This was an entertaining read to come back to though.... I'm not a scammer, I'm not a liar, I'm a one man company trying to put on a few good events for fans with unheard content where possible. It's very easy to have a dig about this stuff for the average person but I send around 10-15 packages a day on average across all avenues so its a tad different. I did add a post explaining my struggles with time, as I am now deep into the set up of London, Liverpool and Japan exhibitions. I should still keep up with deals if getting paid though I admit... (90% of packages go the day after btw), just that 2 month period wasnt easy. I have had Cancer 3 times and recently lost an eye from it BUT I havent used that as an excuse once. It did lose me 6 weeks before the Manchester exhibition so that wasnt great, the knock on effect was massive but back to best now. Personally I couldnt care less if the Facebook group feels like a 'cult'....crazy way to describe it...I dont act in any way high and mighty and seem to be quite appreciated for getting thousands of items signed for people whilst adding any content I can online....but hey ho, its a group of nice folk showing items. I have had to step back anyway so the cult feeling may disappear now Kyle 'the dishonest liar scum' leader is gone eh Onto this exact deal, the subject of this thread.... I did take weeks as I did go on holiday right after payment, then as correctly stated one of the items I couldnt find when home. (Can you imagine how much stuff there is in my storage atm after that exhibition? A LOT). Also correctly mentioned was Abbey Road visits so I was away again during this month in London then Liverpool. I was home for about a week. Anyway....truth be told I had heard about some items being resold and touted around in the US that sounded very similar to these being sold. It may or may not have been these items but that did stop and make me think for a few days whether it was worth it as I'd done an amazing deal on this bundle as we had previously done deals before, so if it was these items it would have been a kick in the bollock. I thought it best to cancel the deal and fully refund. .............. "I want people to know what is going on and the utter dishonesty from the creator of this wonderful group. This place has been a great peek into other Oasis fan's collections and has been a source of enjoyment for years at this point. Now it is all driven by money and dishonesty." - Incorrect, one deal doesnt warrant that daft statement. Dramatic drivel. Whats going on? One deal in a month where I did around 500 went wrong, wow "Why? Because there was also a DAT found and part of the deal that potentially could have some new unheard stuff. He wanted to keep it for himself." - Do you REALLY think this is true? If anything its better with me as I'd upload it online or send it back for release. Get a grip To end, no one has been scammed, no one has lost a penny, IN FACT I SENT YOU A FEW DIGITAL FILES VIA DROPBOX EARLY ON, I'm very genuinely sorry it didnt happen but it just didnt 'feel' right. These childish posts online havent worked on any platform.... why? BECAUSE IM NOT WHAT YOU SAY I AM AND YOU KNOW IT. UK Tour with an Oasis name due early next year playing unseen footage, London exhibition 18th - 20th October, Press Party 7th Nov at The Cavern, King Tuts anniversary show next March.... hopefully see some of you there. I'll definitely be at the Glasgow one mate, regardless of the health!
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 24, 2024 6:03:55 GMT -5
I’ve bought off Kyle and it went perfectly.
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 24, 2024 7:29:20 GMT -5
Good to see you back and that you're doing well, KyleBHome. Will you be at the Exhibition in Tokyo in November too?
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Post by KyleBHome on Aug 24, 2024 11:35:49 GMT -5
Good to see you back and that you're doing well, KyleBHome . Will you be at the Exhibition in Tokyo in November too? As things stand I will be there in Nov yeah, but have to go to NYC in Dec. so need to sit down with the boss and see what she says haha. Been away a lot recently and my 3 babies are more important than any job. But in short.... yes
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