Britpop was largely shite though.


Fucking Mesnwear.

I'm not sure why skin colour is part of a conversation about music, especially the way you seem to equate "white British provincial" music with positivism and oppose it to today's youth culture being "thuggish".

Saying that, it's a little hard to predict. I know things are stale and grim at the moment but if you had asked anyone in the 60's if something like Beatlemania could happen again, no one would have predicted Britpop and how massive they were, mostly in Great Britain of course, but still. Also, rock and roll is a cycle. The cycle is a bit longer before guitar music comes back to the forefront of popularity but it'll eventually come back. So we could have another Oasis some day.

People don't buy albums in the same way these days, but people still listen to music and buy tickets in massive numbers. Taylor Swift is about to start a UK & Ireland tour having sold something like 1.25m tickets for it, I'm not sure that kind of scale has ever happened before.

It takes the right band with the right songs in the right place at the right time, but of course bands can become massive. The fractured nature of the media just means that these days it could happen without you realising, if you're not involved. There are less things like Top of the Pops to let the whole country know who is big and who isn't.

Not now but I think it's temporary. People are now realizing what it means to not own anything, that if a company decides that it's no longer available, they can pull the plug at any time and there's nothing they can do. In the last years we've seen it happen in music, video games, movies, cloud storage, etc. I think we'll eventually go back to either physical or at the very least an iTunes MP3 thing. Maybe even some form that doesn't exist yet, who know? But I believe the whole streaming thing is only a temporary historical setback.

Also, as standonit said, you can judge what's massive by concert attendance too which luckily is still a thing.

Like others have said most Britop was absolute shit. Talking about Oasis specifically I got into Oasis during the brit-pop hangover phase where all the older millennials now in the 30+ age range were wearing skinny jeans, stripy tops and into the twangy indie-pop scene which they all thought was so cool and fresh at the time. I think the closest anything Gallagher related has ever gotten to being somewhat popular again was 2016-2018 when the Supersonic doc came out and Liam released AYW when a younger crowd got into them after having grown up with their parents playing them a lot but that's died well down since then.

There isn't really any type of music that dominates music culture like there was during brit-pop anymore. Mainstream manufactured pop is as big as it ever was but music now is much like the movies or tv show scene where something is being made for everyone to enjoy somewhere it's just not the big thing that everyone talks about anymore and to be honest I much prefer this.

You get to have loads of new stuff to listen to (yes even guitar music if you do a little digging) but it's not overexposed, the gigs are smaller and more authentic without all the casuals about only there because something has become trendy and you can access it all instantly. It's not great for any artits who has ambitions to become massive without making mainstream pop music but all the one who are any good more than get by.

If people are more annoyed that there isn't anyone out there making music that sounds really like Oasis then the answer is the same as why there wasn't a band doing it before them either... It's really, really hard to make that type of music and not sound absolutely shit. It's just basic chords and song structures, basic lyrics etc so unless you're an elite level songwriter like Noel or a one of a kind singer like Liam it's going to sound bland and derivative.

As others have said, from a purely music POV, Britpop is a very overrated period.
The wider cultural movement of Cool Britannia, effected all aspects of society from Politics, Sport, Films, TV and the behaviour of society as a whole (especially those under the age of 25). However in the fragmented times we live in now where mainstream media doesn’t really exist because the choice is so vast of where people get their information from, it’ll be highly unlikely we’ll see a cultural movement like that again. Especially one which infiltrates the mainstream like Cool Britannia.
Back in 1996 if a band was on TFI Friday or TOTP for example it reached millions of people live. That next day they’d rush out to but their latest single, that doesn’t happen now.

Back to music itself, aside from the A tier (Oasis, Blur, Pulp, Suede etc) and to a certain extent the B-tier (Supergrass, OCS etc) a lot of the bands were very derivative and pretty awful, they just got caught up in the hype.

To a much smaller extent a similar things happened in 2001-2005, which didn’t influence the mainstream culture as much, as the internet had already start to effect things by then but Indie/Alternative bands were everywhere and you did have some absolute great bands; I remember buying BRMC’s 2nd album, Kings of Leon’s debut and Muse Absolution all on the same day in around September 2003, because they all came out around the same week, you just do not get that anymore. However like Britpop, a lot of bands were shite and we’re only get record deals and NME coverage because of the wider movement.

30 years from Britpopwith streaming and the fact people watch and access things how they want and when they want, you’ll never get a cultural movement en masse like that again.

Wrong.

Viva Brother.

I must admit that I had never heard about Imagine Dragons before you mentioned it. I must be living in a barrel. Coldplay are still huge yeah, and the Monkeys too.

Yes Coldplay are but I'm not sure what effect they've had culturally, if any.

Not much because they're bland.

Could tolerate Chris Martin at the beginning, but fame seemed to inflate him and he/they became the type who'd sell their gran to make another truck load of cash.