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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 23, 2024 21:44:36 GMT -5
The only thing WTSMG needs is a real remastering. That’s worth the money alone.
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Post by glider on May 23, 2024 23:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on May 24, 2024 2:41:57 GMT -5
The only thing WTSMG needs is a real remastering. That’s worth the money alone. DM needed that too. And he didnt do it. So its not gonna happen for MG. I was not expecting much since there's probably not that much left from this era. MG could be a good release with alternate vocals from Liam but there's probably little to be released as well, i mean, they released a double album with the bsides back then. Way more excited by later releases, when Noel got his studio and did 10 version of the same track, Liam started recording with Gem... etc |
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 24, 2024 3:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by zeberdee on May 24, 2024 5:07:27 GMT -5
so, are the sawmills outakes pretty much what Owen Morris was given before he did anything with the songs we know today?
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on May 24, 2024 5:21:55 GMT -5
so, are the sawmills outakes pretty much what Owen Morris was given before he did anything with the songs we know today? It says additional mixing and production by Owen Morris for the sawmills outtakes, so had something to do with them? Edit. To your question, yes I believe so. It just seems a bit confusing that he's listed in the credits too if those are versions he received to work with. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 24, 2024 6:26:28 GMT -5
I'm surprised we didnt' get any supportive song from the announcement. Was hoping for "Columbia" to kick it all off.
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Post by shadowcaster on May 24, 2024 6:51:08 GMT -5
The only thing WTSMG needs is a real remastering. That’s worth the money alone. DM needed that too. And he didnt do it. So its not gonna happen for MG. I was not expecting much since there's probably not that much left from this era. MG could be a good release with alternate vocals from Liam but there's probably little to be released as well, i mean, they released a double album with the bsides back then. Way more excited by later releases, when Noel got his studio and did 10 version of the same track, Liam started recording with Gem... etc There's plenty of gold to be mined on those later albums for sure. Would love to hear the DIV versions of DBTT but doubt we'll ever get them |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 24, 2024 8:48:40 GMT -5
It's actually got me quite optimistic for the Morning Glory reissue, they know full well that it's the band's biggest-selling/most famous album so if they're prepared to give us a ton of demos for the DM anniversary I'm actually really excited to see what we'll get to commemorate WTSMG I don’t know if it exists but I’d love an acoustic demo of Supernova. The one that made Bonehead cry on the tour bus. I guess we will get a version of Wonderwall played on the actual wall of the studio grounds. Liam Step Out would rock. Not sure how many demos they got. Noel always said the album takes are basically the demos polished up. I think we have all the “demos” for Morning Glory already. What would be interesting is Noel’s guide tracks for the rest of the band where he basically sat with an acoustic guitar and played the song the whole way though. I think he did guide vocals as well. |
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Post by noeloliam on May 24, 2024 8:58:49 GMT -5
There was no demos for Morning Glory. Noel had it all in his head and he only played it to them for the first time on acoustic guitar at the bus stop to the studio. Bonehead wept like a pussy after Champagne Supernova.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 24, 2024 9:13:09 GMT -5
There was no demos for Morning Glory. Noel had it all in his head and he only played it to them for the first time on acoustic guitar at the bus stop to the studio. Bonehead wept like a pussy after Champagne Supernova. I also weep like a pussy when these projects get announced and key material is MIA. |
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Post by niftium on May 24, 2024 9:23:28 GMT -5
#bringbackstepoutformg30thyoucowards
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 24, 2024 9:31:39 GMT -5
There was no demos for Morning Glory. Noel had it all in his head and he only played it to them for the first time on acoustic guitar at the bus stop to the studio. Bonehead wept like a pussy after Champagne Supernova. I also weep like a pussy when these projects get announced and key material is MIA. Or just doesn’t exist. |
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Post by zeberdee on May 24, 2024 10:12:20 GMT -5
Didn't Owen Morris once mention there were some original mixes of "Wonderwall" that had different structures and arrangements? They'd be pretty cool to hear.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 24, 2024 10:19:03 GMT -5
I also weep like a pussy when these projects get announced and key material is MIA. Or just doesn’t exist. Oh they exist baby. They exist!!!! Just the idea of including Sad Song sung by Liam is complete fan service. That should have been on the 20th anniversary reissue like we all said at the time. Doesn’t really jive with Mono and Sawmills sessions. It’s way earlier than those points in time. We know they could offer a cleaned up, polished up versions of I Am The Walrus, Coming On Strong and Lock All The Doors. They didn’t. Guess they gotta save something for the 40th……. |
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Post by tiger40 on May 24, 2024 12:42:02 GMT -5
OK I gave in and pre-ordered the cd version last night on Amazon. I doubt very much that I'll bother buying the cassette version as I still have the original version.
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Post by Casino Boogie on May 24, 2024 13:45:55 GMT -5
so, are the sawmills outakes pretty much what Owen Morris was given before he did anything with the songs we know today? It says additional mixing and production by Owen Morris for the sawmills outtakes, so had something to do with them? Edit. To your question, yes I believe so. It just seems a bit confusing that he's listed in the credits too if those are versions he received to work with. Those credits are a bit weird aren't they? If Owen Morris is involved in the Sawmills tracks then that indicates we're not getting the raw versions but then again the credits also say 'No overdubs' suggesting it is the raw versions! Possibly that credit to Owen Morris is an inadvertent carry over from the proper album credits? |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on May 24, 2024 15:45:43 GMT -5
It says additional mixing and production by Owen Morris for the sawmills outtakes, so had something to do with them? Edit. To your question, yes I believe so. It just seems a bit confusing that he's listed in the credits too if those are versions he received to work with. Those credits are a bit weird aren't they? If Owen Morris is involved in the Sawmills tracks then that indicates we're not getting the raw versions but then again the credits also say 'No overdubs' suggesting it is the raw versions! Possibly that credit to Owen Morris is an inadvertent carry over from the proper album credits? I think you're right. That's the only logical explanation. |
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Post by darmin on May 25, 2024 0:37:40 GMT -5
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Post by sheisloved on May 25, 2024 1:52:36 GMT -5
I like the cover
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Post by darmin on May 25, 2024 9:30:09 GMT -5
Original front cover was perfect. No need for changing anything. They could’ve just released different outtakes and versions as cards or whatever
DM is very uplifting, confident, optimistic album. The new cover simply doesn’t fit. Like someone said If Noel is old and depressed and wanted sad depressing covers he should’ve fucked with his solo albums, not Oasis’s
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Post by carl80 on May 25, 2024 9:35:12 GMT -5
If nothing was changed for the cover he would have been lazy for not changing anything, not that he did the work on it anyway, I like it with the Monnow Valley studio shot in BW to compliment each other.
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Post by scottc on May 25, 2024 11:11:54 GMT -5
Some of the Monnow tracks are possibly on the Safety Copy of Masters leak, but I don’t think we’ll know for sure until we can compare the two. Also dont forget the Cigarettes & Alcohol clip on the Supersonic Doc Is that definitely from Monnow? I’ve seen it labelled as being from Loco studios. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 25, 2024 11:19:21 GMT -5
Let me just make sure I’ve got the order of operations right here:
Songs originally recorded at Monnow Valley —> recording deemed not good enough —> album re-recorded at Sawmills with Mark Coyle —> mix deemed not good enough —> album remixed by Owen Morris at (somewhere?) —> final album
Is that correct? Please add/amend as I’m not an expert.
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Post by mossy on May 25, 2024 16:50:03 GMT -5
Let me just make sure I’ve got the order of operations right here: Songs originally recorded at Monnow Valley —> recording deemed not good enough —> album re-recorded at Sawmills with Mark Coyle —> mix deemed not good enough —> album remixed by Owen Morris at (somewhere?) —> final album Is that correct? Please add/amend as I’m not an expert. Supersonic and b-sides were recorded at The Pink Museum first but I think you’re about right yeah. Slide Away recording from Monnow Valley made the album but nothing else. Make yourself a cup of tea and have a browse around this site: www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=148🫖 |
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