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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 9, 2024 9:21:44 GMT -5
Who the fuck would say “no” and why? I do. I really don't get into it. The songs feel like they don't have enough substance, but as a Beady Eye fan I got to hear that all the time back then. "I'm a wheel" for example...everybody goes bonkers for that one, but its the most standard blues pattern that ever was and I can't listen to it without having a boomer with a fedora playing blues licks in a youtube video in front of my eye. Liam sounds good on all tracks but it not even Liam could make these songs more than just ok for me. And I would listen to a album of liam reading cooking recipees over bagpipes. So you'd prefer we get nothing between albums 3 and 4? I always lean more content over nothing. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Mar 9, 2024 12:04:46 GMT -5
Who the fuck would say “no” and why? I proudly would. Sorry but I can already hear the next album — bluesy guitar noodling plus middling Liam choruses. Now, if they went full ethereal Stone Roses or stadium-rocking Britpop, I’d be all in. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Mar 9, 2024 12:53:31 GMT -5
I do. I really don't get into it. The songs feel like they don't have enough substance, but as a Beady Eye fan I got to hear that all the time back then. "I'm a wheel" for example...everybody goes bonkers for that one, but its the most standard blues pattern that ever was and I can't listen to it without having a boomer with a fedora playing blues licks in a youtube video in front of my eye. Liam sounds good on all tracks but it not even Liam could make these songs more than just ok for me. And I would listen to a album of liam reading cooking recipees over bagpipes. So you'd prefer we get nothing between albums 3 and 4? I always lean more content over nothing. No, I was not against the record. Don't get me wrong, I was really looking forward to it, but I was really a bit dissappointed with what was released. I know that its just my opinion, cause there are many peiole that like it and I am happy for them but the songs feel a bit hollow for me and I was hoping for a record that sound more like stone roses and less like some 60s blues rock. Liams voice is top right now and for me the best thing is when he starts in "just another rainbow", so I was hoping for a more psychy stone roses type songwriting. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 9, 2024 15:30:18 GMT -5
So you'd prefer we get nothing between albums 3 and 4? I always lean more content over nothing. No, I was not against the record. Don't get me wrong, I was really looking forward to it, but I was really a bit dissappointed with what was released. I know that its just my opinion, cause there are many peiole that like it and I am happy for them but the songs feel a bit hollow for me and I was hoping for a record that sound more like stone roses and less like some 60s blues rock. Liams voice is top right now and for me the best thing is when he starts in "just another rainbow", so I was hoping for a more psychy stone roses type songwriting. Fair points. I was definitely expecting more songs like “Rainbows”. That’s like the type of sound I always think Liam wants in his head. That Revolver era Beatles. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Mar 10, 2024 3:43:12 GMT -5
Who the fuck would say “no” and why? Me. I think the album is absolutely atrocious - easily the worst thing Liam has ever been involved in, including Beady Eye. It was a struggle to listen to it once nevermind whet my appetite for a second album. Other people like it and that's fine, but the question is 'do you want a second album?' and I don't because the first is dreadful. I get the argument that more is better but personally I wouldn't want Liam releasing any old shit for the sake of it. At least with his solo work you know the album is just a vehicle to go on tour and he is excellent live and has a huge back catalogue of great songs to perform, but they've already said they will be playing the album in full plus a cover and charging £75 for the privilege of 11 songs which I think is really poor too. I can't stress enough that it's each to their own and it's fine for people to disagree, but personally I have no interest. |
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Post by andymorris on Mar 10, 2024 4:26:28 GMT -5
Who the fuck would say “no” and why? Me. I think the album is absolutely atrocious - easily the worst thing Liam has ever been involved in, including Beady Eye. It was a struggle to listen to it once nevermind whet my appetite for a second album. Other people like it and that's fine, but the question is 'do you want a second album?' and I don't because the first is dreadful. I get the argument that more is better but personally I wouldn't want Liam releasing any old shit for the sake of it. At least with his solo work you know the album is just a vehicle to go on tour and he is excellent live and has a huge back catalogue of great songs to perform, but they've already said they will be playing the album in full plus a cover and charging £75 for the privilege of 11 songs which I think is really poor too. I can't stress enough that it's each to their own and it's fine for people to disagree, but personally I have no interest. Sometimes, records needs more than one listen... And most of the times, they are the best ones. And Its better to pay for a genuine "band" playing their song than just paying the same amount to go see a cover band playing other people's songs. You can do that for 5 in any bar with any Liam Gallagher lookalike. i doubt the setlist will be 12 songs only though. Every concert is too expensive nowadays anyway. So your point is irrelevant. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 10, 2024 6:45:14 GMT -5
So you'd prefer we get nothing between albums 3 and 4? I always lean more content over nothing. No, I was not against the record. Don't get me wrong, I was really looking forward to it, but I was really a bit dissappointed with what was released. I know that its just my opinion, cause there are many peiole that like it and I am happy for them but the songs feel a bit hollow for me and I was hoping for a record that sound more like stone roses and less like some 60s blues rock. Liams voice is top right now and for me the best thing is when he starts in "just another rainbow", so I was hoping for a more psychy stone roses type songwriting. I was expecting a bit more of that as well. Luckily for me I like what they gave us. Hopefully the next record will enter that territory. |
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Post by 2nz on Mar 11, 2024 7:07:23 GMT -5
Who the fuck would say “no” and why? Me. I think the album is absolutely atrocious - easily the worst thing Liam has ever been involved in, including Beady Eye. It was a struggle to listen to it once nevermind whet my appetite for a second album. Other people like it and that's fine, but the question is 'do you want a second album?' and I don't because the first is dreadful. I get the argument that more is better but personally I wouldn't want Liam releasing any old shit for the sake of it. At least with his solo work you know the album is just a vehicle to go on tour and he is excellent live and has a huge back catalogue of great songs to perform, but they've already said they will be playing the album in full plus a cover and charging £75 for the privilege of 11 songs which I think is really poor too. I can't stress enough that it's each to their own and it's fine for people to disagree, but personally I have no interest. I'm here too. I think it's a good idea on paper, but it's a shit record. Liam sounds great, but the songs are absolute dogshit. If it was sung by Chris Helme or the bald guy with the hat from Maximo Park and everything was written by John Squire- they wouldn't be mentioned on this forum. As for them going out live- most people are just gonna be happy to see the two of them in parkas on stage together. I don't think the whole project has anywhere to go but downhill- if john's been sitting on those songs for 20 years, imagine how lifeless the ones he has to rush out in 18 months are gonna be. |
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Post by cedomil on Mar 11, 2024 7:56:14 GMT -5
Yes, please. This album with Mr. Squire was in Gallagher terms more Rory than later Noel, so, me likey  |
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Post by Bellboy on Mar 11, 2024 9:28:25 GMT -5
No from me.
I don't think they should. Nor do I think they will.
This will all be a 1 off is my bet which will make this short tour very special indeed.
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 11, 2024 9:39:33 GMT -5
No
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 11, 2024 10:09:18 GMT -5
No from me. I don't think they should. Nor do I think they will. This will all be a 1 off is my bet which will make this short tour very special indeed. Number 1 album, sold out tour. Why do you think they wouldn't? |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Mar 11, 2024 11:26:49 GMT -5
Me. I think the album is absolutely atrocious - easily the worst thing Liam has ever been involved in, including Beady Eye. It was a struggle to listen to it once nevermind whet my appetite for a second album. Other people like it and that's fine, but the question is 'do you want a second album?' and I don't because the first is dreadful. I get the argument that more is better but personally I wouldn't want Liam releasing any old shit for the sake of it. At least with his solo work you know the album is just a vehicle to go on tour and he is excellent live and has a huge back catalogue of great songs to perform, but they've already said they will be playing the album in full plus a cover and charging £75 for the privilege of 11 songs which I think is really poor too. I can't stress enough that it's each to their own and it's fine for people to disagree, but personally I have no interest. Sometimes, records needs more than one listen... And most of the times, they are the best ones. And Its better to pay for a genuine "band" playing their song than just paying the same amount to go see a cover band playing other people's songs. You can do that for 5 in any bar with any Liam Gallagher lookalike. i doubt the setlist will be 12 songs only though. Every concert is too expensive nowadays anyway. So your point is irrelevant. Not sure how the point is irrelevant. I have tickets for the DM tour - paid £87.50 (the tickets arrived at the weekend and the price is printed on) which is very expensive but it's my favourite singer playing my favourite album in its entirety, including b-sides, for the first time ever. Liam will be on stage for around two hours and I love pretty much every song. I think the price is excessive but can justify paying it, it'll be a great night. The LGJS tickets were around £75 iirc. Liam had already said they aren't playing any Oasis, Roses or solo, it's the album plus a cover. This is similar to the first Beady Eye tour - DGSS plus Sons of the Stage, came on stage at 9:30pm and finished at 10:30pm. So for that price it's a no for me. It's a fair point that some albums need more than one listen and I'm sure I will listen to it more in due course. The first two songs are OK. Unfortunately first impressions of the rest aren't great. I did stress each to their own - lots of people like it and the tour obviously sold out within minutes which is great. I'm not knocking anyone for having a different view or telling them they're wrong. But I think the album is shit and have no interest in a follow up. |
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Post by andymorris on Mar 15, 2024 3:59:03 GMT -5
Yes. again.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Mar 15, 2024 4:44:05 GMT -5
I voted "Yes" for these reasons:
1) I Love this album because it's the most different from the others, it surrounds Liam with unusual nuances and is also the most raw and rock.
2) I never get tired of it. It's the only album I can listen to even 10 times a day without making me feel nauseous. The more I listen to it, the better it gets.
3) It has an essential instrumental construction but of higher quality than what we have always listened to.
4) The fact that there is only one guitar elevates Liam's voice very well both live and in the studio. I find that the songs are more compatible with his voice and even live they allow Liam to express himself in a natural way without excessively wearing out his his vocal cords.
5) Despite not having the Pop mold of any Liam and Noel solo album, it is the one that sounds most consistent with what Liam Gallagher is.
PS: It's not a "stadium" album like his solo albums are, but more suitable for smaller venues and this is not a flaw at all.
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Post by Gergely on Mar 15, 2024 4:57:16 GMT -5
4) The fact that there is only one guitar elevates Liam's voice very well both live and in the studio. I find that the songs are more compatible with his voice and even live they allow Liam to express himself in a natural way without excessively wearing out his his vocal cords. I just noticed the same while listening to the live recordings. Liam (mostly) doesn't need to strain and shout over the songs. One Day At A Time from Wolverhampton sounds great. And yes, I'd gladly take one more album of this if they feel like collaborating again. |
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Post by andymorris on Mar 15, 2024 5:15:55 GMT -5
Its essentially a first album by a new band, those album are usually "basic". The next one could be very interesting a go further. I see no reasons to stop here, if the level of songwriting is that high. They would just need to be a bit more careful on the production side.
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Post by scyhopath on Mar 15, 2024 5:43:22 GMT -5
Hell yes, bring it on.
If I could ask for anything, though, it would be for the second album to be more in the style of the demos that John recorded around 2009. Blues guitars, but with a more contemporary sound. I don't know who John was working with at the time, but this style suits his guitar playing very well, and I'm curious to hear what it would have sounded like with LG on vocals.
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