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Post by jezza2 on Jun 28, 2024 8:06:53 GMT -5
If you watched the debate on tv, it looked like trump won, but if you listened to the debate on the radio, it sounded like biden won.
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Post by halftheworldaway91 on Jun 28, 2024 8:18:06 GMT -5
That was rough! Biden needs putting in a retirement home. Trump outclassed him.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 28, 2024 8:41:13 GMT -5
If you watched the debate on tv, it looked like trump won, but if you listened to the debate on the radio, it sounded like biden won. Really? Even with the sometimes really long hesitations and the incomplete or incoherent answers?
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 28, 2024 8:54:10 GMT -5
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Post by The Chief on Jun 28, 2024 9:12:51 GMT -5
I know... they're both really sad to watch and listen....
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Post by jezza2 on Jun 28, 2024 9:24:55 GMT -5
If you watched the debate on tv, it looked like trump won, but if you listened to the debate on the radio, it sounded like biden won. Really? Even with the sometimes really long hesitations and the incomplete or incoherent answers? Not really. I tried to make a JFK-Nixon joke, fell flat. I didn’t watch the debates at all. Complete waste of time in my opinion.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 28, 2024 10:24:32 GMT -5
Really? Even with the sometimes really long hesitations and the incomplete or incoherent answers? Not really. I tried to make a JFK-Nixon joke, fell flat. I didn’t watch the debates at all. Complete waste of time in my opinion. Sorry about that ha ha! I agree these things are more about insulting each other like schoolyard kids than anything substantial...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2024 12:36:39 GMT -5
I’m not sure if Biden can recover from that. Seriously - that was his defining chance to shift the narrative and convince the few undecideds that he can do 4 more years. After watching those 90 minutes, he cannot.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2024 14:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 28, 2024 15:00:57 GMT -5
The debates are even being talked about on sports talk radio.
I watched two seconds of the debates last night, two seconds….then I went back to Sopranos reruns, my fall back when nothing’s on t.v.
The democrats have to get Biden to withdraw, pretty much anyone else would win against dumbass expect Kamala apparently, she doesn’t bother me but a lot of people don’t like her.
God bless.
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Post by matt on Jun 28, 2024 15:16:29 GMT -5
Something isn't right with Trump supporters and their behaviours and attitudes are the symptom of a nation gone wrong. A candidate who pries on the insecurities and isolation of folk (whether that be personal or financial insecurity) and indulges the ugly characteristics that derive from those insecurities. Rather than being a truly inspirational leader that makes them believe that they can be meaningful stakeholders in a society that embraces community and the symbiotic relationship between people and place. Though that insecure, individualistic 'every man for himself' mentality of society today is the long term ramifications of neoliberal Reagan and Thatcher style emphasis on individualism and 'trickle down' economics that, well, never f**** trickled down and eroded society and community.
Where is that alternative vision coming from because 'more of the same' is not cutting the mustard? The DNC must have their head up their arses and be so institutionalised to the point they are out of touch with society. This is an open goal against the worst candidate of all time and they are literally sleep walking to defeat.
Somebody put it well, it's a choice between Trump ('hell no!') and Biden ('oh no'). The one people hate vs the one people pity. A convicted felon and sleazy pervert who lies through his teeth and has lost the popular vote not once but TWICE. An open goal surely? Just a little bit of imagination, and a little bit of a vision will see to that. And yet still, the Democrats can't kill him off. How incompetent can you get?
Last night was just the tip of the iceberg of a party that has no idea. It was always leading up to this because not since 2008 have the DNC bothered to look forward and secure a fresh face. It's the same old faces, it's the constant sense of looking backwards to try and look forward and the electorate are fed up with the lack of vision and innovation that a new candidate could bring. It's the arrogance from the DNC that that is good enough, ending in apathy, and when there's apathy that's when things go wrong and you let Trump in by the back door.
Make no mistake, Trump won't be winning this, even though he'll get in the White House. If you think he 'wins' elections, then his supporters are deluded fantasists. No, he only ever gets in the White House by the back door, because the sheer stupidity and arrogance of the DNC lose it. And that's what will happen this November.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 28, 2024 16:14:58 GMT -5
have to say Joe Biden was a bit worse for wear last night, But he didn'nt lie once unlike the other fella who lied quite a bit and also didnt really answer any questions directly, the best part was when they asked him about Jan 6th and he just danced around the question and answered fuck all,,TWICE
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Post by matt on Jun 28, 2024 19:39:36 GMT -5
have to say Joe Biden was a bit worse for wear last night, But he didn'nt lie once unlike the other fella who lied quite a bit and also didnt really answer any questions directly, the best part was when they asked him about Jan 6th and he just danced around the question and answered fuck all,,TWICE Thought you were talking about this forum's Trump fanboys!
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Post by Day Tripper on Jun 29, 2024 2:31:48 GMT -5
This was a disaster. Trump is a lying piece of shit and a fucking joke. Still somehow he made a better impact than Biden.
Biden was a ghost, more believable as a retirement home candidate than a president. He talked smart things but his points were buried under his senile presence.
Are the Democrats so fucking rotten and dumb they aren't willing to find anyone to replace him? Like matt said, it's an open goal they're purposely missing. If Trump gets elected you can only blame yourself and your own fucking corruption.
Fucking disaster. I pity the people in Ukraine right now.
e. Where's the fact checking from CNN?? Why are they allowing straight up lying? The greatest country in the world and this kind of shit show going on. Are they afraid to ask hard questions in the fear of losing their position as a trusted media? Why can't you properly challenge their views? They're president candidates for your own country, for fuck's sake. They should be seriously tested under pressure, not let talk whatever the fuck they want.
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Post by matt on Jun 29, 2024 15:17:53 GMT -5
This was a disaster. Trump is a lying piece of shit and a fucking joke. Still somehow he made a better impact than Biden. Biden was a ghost, more believable as a retirement home candidate than a president. He talked smart things but his points were buried under his senile presence. Are the Democrats so fucking rotten and dumb they aren't willing to find anyone to replace him? Like matt said, it's an open goal they're purposely missing. If Trump gets elected you can only blame yourself and your own fucking corruption. Fucking disaster. I pity the people in Ukraine right now. e. Where's the fact checking from CNN?? Why are they allowing straight up lying? The greatest country in the world and this kind of shit show going on. Are they afraid to ask hard questions in the fear of losing their position as a trusted media? Why can't you properly challenge their views? They're president candidates for your own country, for fuck's sake. They should be seriously tested under pressure, not let talk whatever the fuck they want. I think they're arrogant. If they lose, there won't be any soul searching in the DNC because they'll refuse to accept responsibility for a mess they had the power to avoid. Anyone of us here would be better Democrat strategists.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jun 30, 2024 2:20:46 GMT -5
Something that's been on my mind the last few days: Is Robert Kennedy president if Trump and Biden pull out? I don't like Kennedy, but he has told more FACTS than those two.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 30, 2024 12:45:22 GMT -5
Something that's been on my mind the last few days: Is Robert Kennedy president if Trump and Biden pull out? I don't like Kennedy, but he has told more FACTS than those two. Sadly I can't see Trump pulling out but if he and Biden both did pull out I'm not too sure what would happen.
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Post by jezza2 on Jun 30, 2024 13:35:01 GMT -5
Something that's been on my mind the last few days: Is Robert Kennedy president if Trump and Biden pull out? I don't like Kennedy, but he has told more FACTS than those two. I mean... both parties would have to replace them with someone else. I couldn't even imagine a bill without a republican or a democrat (we can save scum to 1792), but Kennedy isn't even on the bill in every state. It's hard to get third parties on the bill (signatures are required if I remember correctly), which is why the increasingly hated two party system is still here. So thats why when people vote for a third party, people get mad at them for "throwing their vote away" even if they truly believe the candidate they voted for is the best option. Which is why democrats worry that if Kennedy gets on the bill in every state, he'll "steal" votes from Biden (which by the way, he's NOT dropping out, not at this stage).
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 30, 2024 21:36:08 GMT -5
What a disgrace that was for the U.S. and its citizens on both sides. With that being said, the brainwashed people on here who are saying Biden didn’t lie are completely full of shit; I believe it was CNN that even ran a segment identifying something like a dozen or more during the debate. He definitely lied many times and has been a known liar for his entire career…
Modern politicians and media are pawns/propagandists for the mega corporations that line their pockets. The establishment (left and right) are controlled by the same monies. This is precisely why independents have no chance of becoming president and why people like RFK who present logical solutions to the issues plaguing regular folks are portrayed as lunatics.
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Post by Marissa on Jun 30, 2024 21:59:29 GMT -5
Modern politicians and media are pawns/propagandists for the mega corporations that line their pockets. The establishment (left and right) are controlled by the same monies. This is precisely why independents have no chance of becoming president and why people like RFK who present logical solutions to the issues plaguing regular folks are portrayed as lunatics. and exactly why they wanted to keep Biden in office rather than consider LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE up until this point - he has no idea what's going on and is extremely easily for corporations and rich powerful folk to manipulate...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 1, 2024 4:00:42 GMT -5
Been following this channel since 2020. Quality.
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 1, 2024 12:53:24 GMT -5
I see that Biden has been advised to stay in the race by his family members.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 1, 2024 13:10:07 GMT -5
I see that Biden has been advised to stay in the race by his family members. Elder abuse. Jill Biden, Joe’s wife, is corrupted by the power.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jul 1, 2024 13:53:32 GMT -5
I see that Biden has been advised to stay in the race by his family members. Elder abuse. Jill Biden, Joe’s wife, is corrupted by the power. remember when jill biden posed nude in a magazine? .,,,,,oops my bad that was Melania Trump
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jul 1, 2024 14:07:34 GMT -5
I see that Biden has been advised to stay in the race by his family members. Elder abuse. Jill Biden, Joe’s wife, is corrupted by the power. Says someone who wants Project 2025. Keep thinking Trump is pro medical marijuana. He is not
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