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Post by tomlivesforever on May 26, 2023 5:10:24 GMT -5
I don’t know what gives some the impression Noel’s attitude is starting thaw on a reunion. He described him as a coward and then goes on about Liam’s people calling his people 😂 utterly absurd. This is no more than Noel trying to take back the narrative he lost control of. It’s no doubt been an uncomfortable, unusual and disconcerting place for Noel to find himself in. Noel said the same thing about Liam smashing it in an interview/vid last year. And Liam is smashing it. Liam's response on Twitter was pretty pathetic. They're both very immature about it and need to move on. It was pathetic, and pointless. But Noel knows what he's doing, calling him a coward was always going to produce that. What we know that few of the casuals do is that Liam has indeed called him before and was rejected.
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Post by shoes222 on May 26, 2023 9:11:14 GMT -5
I don’t want them to fully reunite and make music again, I don’t see that working or much point to that anymore. But I think a one-off massive multi-day reunion gig in a single place, not even a full tour, would be a great thing that could bring together fans from all over the world. A proper live celebration.
And yes, I do think that will be happening at some point, maybe 2025 or 2026. There is just too much money to be made for it not to.
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Post by The Escapist on May 26, 2023 10:48:02 GMT -5
I don’t want them to fully reunite and make music again, I don’t see that working or much point to that anymore. But I think a one-off massive multi-day reunion gig in a single place, not even a full tour, would be a great thing that could bring together fans from all over the world. A proper live celebration. And yes, I do think that will be happening at some point, maybe 2025 or 2026. There is just too much money to be made for it not to. There would be way too much money to be made in a huge global tour for that. And why not? If they do reform, as many people should get the chance to see them as possible. I'm fully behind it. Timing it with the (What's the Story) Morning Glory? anniversary would be great; put all the bad vibes away and celebrate one of the most iconic British bands ever. Get everyone back; Gem and Andy can play on the tunes that were released in their era, Bonehead and Guigsy for theirs. Do Glastonbury. Do River Plate. Do Knebworth. Do it all. Then take a few years off and both come back to their solo careers rejuvenated, ready to make music on their new-found throne of cash. Think of all the Monster Munch you could buy, Noel!
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Post by GlastoEls on May 26, 2023 12:54:26 GMT -5
Some psychology student somewhere could write a great thesis on this brinksmanship! I'm not a psychology student but honestly, it mostly comes down to their childhood. I'm really surprised barely anyone mentions anymore that Noel was a beaten kid. You don't understand Noel's behaviour if you don't take it into consideration. In the Supersonic documentary, there's a part where I think Mark Coyle (or was it Owen Morris ? I don't remember) describes how Noel attitude would change when he was singing, and how you could see all the emotions he was feeling and then when the singing was done, he would call everyone a twat. It's a self defence mechanism, and it's why he will never call Liam for a reunion or just to admit what he could have done wrong. Cos, for Noel, that'd be showing "weakness" and he avoids that at all cost, all the time (and for obvious reasons) Also remember that Noel was the one kid being beaten by his dad, while the latter would be way less of a monster with Liam. That doesn't excuse everything Noel could have done, but makes his attitude all the more comprehensible. Super interesting post!
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Post by Supersonic on May 26, 2023 13:21:47 GMT -5
After the Noel interview it’s made me think that Liam’s reputation has dipped a bit because of him lashing out, in my opinion. It does make me side with Noel more on this one. Feels like Liam likes winding the fans up sometimes
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Post by glider on May 26, 2023 13:27:35 GMT -5
Some psychology student somewhere could write a great thesis on this brinksmanship! I'm not a psychology student but honestly, it mostly comes down to their childhood. I'm really surprised barely anyone mentions anymore that Noel was a beaten kid. You don't understand Noel's behaviour if you don't take it into consideration. In the Supersonic documentary, there's a part where I think Mark Coyle (or was it Owen Morris ? I don't remember) describes how Noel attitude would change when he was singing, and how you could see all the emotions he was feeling and then when the singing was done, he would call everyone a twat. It's a self defence mechanism, and it's why he will never call Liam for a reunion or just to admit what he could have done wrong. Cos, for Noel, that'd be showing "weakness" and he avoids that at all cost, all the time (and for obvious reasons) Also remember that Noel was the one kid being beaten by his dad, while the latter would be way less of a monster with Liam. That doesn't excuse everything Noel could have done, but makes his attitude all the more comprehensible. So Noel is Jimmy McGill? In all seriousness, I think the only thing at play here is Noel doesn't want to admit the piggy bank is more depleted than he'd want to admit, even though the insane tour he's about to start reveals the reality of the situation. I'm assuming he never got a prenup and knows it's going to cost him. So instead of his traditional straight to the point responses from the last 11 years, he's now playing the media game with it because, well, this time, that pile of cash looks a hell of a lot better than it did before.
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Post by Marissa on May 26, 2023 13:38:03 GMT -5
This is it, guys, thread over (but I think Liam is also Jimmy in his own way)
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Post by glider on May 26, 2023 13:41:30 GMT -5
This is it, guys, thread over (but I think Liam is also Jimmy in his own way) No, Liam is Walt 😂
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 26, 2023 14:16:22 GMT -5
The one that got me was back in 2014 (I think).
O
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Liam you wind up merchant.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 26, 2023 16:19:12 GMT -5
After the Noel interview it’s made me think that Liam’s reputation has dipped a bit because of him lashing out, in my opinion. It does make me side with Noel more on this one. Feels like Liam likes winding the fans up sometimes Liam would do it tomorrow if it was seriously on the cards. Noel hasn’t wanted too but now there’s a money reason why he might.
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Post by vantagepoint on May 26, 2023 22:56:00 GMT -5
After the Noel interview it’s made me think that Liam’s reputation has dipped a bit because of him lashing out, in my opinion. It does make me side with Noel more on this one. Feels like Liam likes winding the fans up sometimes Liam would do it tomorrow if it was seriously on the cards. Noel hasn’t wanted too but now there’s a money reason why he might. The brothers are playing all of us. They deeply understand that the feud aspect, or at the very least the perception of a feud in the papers/online - is the value of interest here. It keeps us talking about them, streaming the songs, speculating if and when. However, objectively speaking, this long coveted feud aspect of the band could be worth more than the music aspect in terms of brand and marketing. They don't even need to coordinate this aspect, it's been their default MO since '93. They know this game well. And even if somehow they were in contact directly or indirectly - they wouldn't allow the public any inkling of this possibility as it would literally tank the edginess of the brand overnight. People don't want a reunion to see and hear 'the songs' played. They want to witness the brothers in the vicinity of each other. And that is ma$$ive. This is why both of them are coy/shitting themselves around planning because they both know they get one last crack at monetising the Ferrari. Neither wants to take responsibility for fear of fumbling. "We don't speak" is the always their first answer. And rightly so. People still actually believe them. Do people need a little time to wake up, wake up?
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Post by syed on May 29, 2023 8:16:21 GMT -5
Noel is just trying to sell his solo record—-simple as that. The only thing Noel cares about—-Is Noel. A cold dude.
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Post by shoes222 on Jun 6, 2023 12:48:05 GMT -5
Noel is just trying to sell his solo record—-simple as that. The only thing Noel cares about—-Is Noel. A cold dude. I feel like you're projecting cynicism here. Interviewers ask him this question, he answers. He's not bringing it up on his own.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 6, 2023 12:59:35 GMT -5
Apparently he's reached out to Liam again to call him.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 7, 2023 5:52:44 GMT -5
Noel is just trying to sell his solo record—-simple as that. The only thing Noel cares about—-Is Noel. A cold dude. That sounds a lot like something Liam would say. Now unless you've met either of them, you can't know how they are no matter what the other says. We should all keep our heads cold with this whole thing and realize they're both throwing shit at each other and we're debating who's the biggest thrower and who's the biggest victim of that shit throwing contest. They're grown men, in their fucking fifties! Not two monkeys in a zoo throwing feces at each other for our amusement. They should keep all of this private and call us when they've sorted things out, if ever. Until then, we should all reserve judgment (I'm also talking to my past self here), let them play in their feces and enjoy the music... otherwise, fuck them.
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Post by Derrick on Jun 11, 2023 13:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by mancraider on Jun 11, 2023 13:44:33 GMT -5
he definitely posted it after fa cup final. No doubt drunk. Didn't realise he'd deleted it lol. No wonder he hasn't tweeted anything since theCL final haha.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Jun 11, 2023 14:59:18 GMT -5
That's a fake tweet that someone just photoshopped. Liam never wrote that. This fake screenshot was already spread on social media many days before the FA cup on a day where Liam didn't tweet anything (he hasn't tweeted anything in days at the time)
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Post by mancraider on Jun 11, 2023 16:13:18 GMT -5
That's a fake tweet that someone just photoshopped. Liam never wrote that. This fake screenshot was already spread on social media many days before the FA cup on a day where Liam didn't tweet anything (he hasn't tweeted anything in days at the time) Fair enough, I only saw it after cup final. Looked legit.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 24, 2023 18:30:32 GMT -5
The one that got me was back in 2014 (I think). O A S I S Liam you wind up merchant. That was the height of his breakdown I think? It's the tweets Bonehead and Paul talk about (amongst others) on As It Was when they intervened and took him on holiday, he had some right rants that night
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Post by thegirlwiththeblues on Jul 18, 2023 12:35:56 GMT -5
Liam would do it tomorrow if it was seriously on the cards. Noel hasn’t wanted too but now there’s a money reason why he might. The brothers are playing all of us. They deeply understand that the feud aspect, or at the very least the perception of a feud in the papers/online - is the value of interest here. It keeps us talking about them, streaming the songs, speculating if and when. However, objectively speaking, this long coveted feud aspect of the band could be worth more than the music aspect in terms of brand and marketing. They don't even need to coordinate this aspect, it's been their default MO since '93. They know this game well. And even if somehow they were in contact directly or indirectly - they wouldn't allow the public any inkling of this possibility as it would literally tank the edginess of the brand overnight. People don't want a reunion to see and hear 'the songs' played. They want to witness the brothers in the vicinity of each other. And that is ma$$ive. This is why both of them are coy/shitting themselves around planning because they both know they get one last crack at monetising the Ferrari. Neither wants to take responsibility for fear of fumbling. "We don't speak" is the always their first answer. And rightly so. People still actually believe them. Do people need a little time to wake up, wake up? You are really talking nonsense! You must know very little to come to such a conclusion! There are a billion examples that prove they are estranged. One that comes to mind is stopping Liam from using footage of his live performances of Oasis songs for his two movies As it Was and Knebworth, even though Live Forever's live performance was a tribute to Taylor Hawkins after his sudden death. It proves Noel's deep hatred for Liam. Like Liam said Oasis songs are his too but Noel prevents him from using them in his own documentaries ! There is also the whole family aspect with Sara Macdonald having fun insulting Liam on her Instagram and Liam trying to threaten her by contacting his niece Anais to tell her to warn her mother-in-law not to continue. Of course, according to you, this is the typical behavior of a loving family... Sara even did an interview saying she suffered because of the harassment from Liam and his fans, felt threatened, and considered suing him. They themselves willingly described the few times they have seen/spoken to each other since the separation of the group. At the end of 2012, their mother made sure for them to send each other a message to wish each other a happy new year, if I remember correctly. They saw each other physically in 2014 at a Manchester City match, Liam was drunk. There were even legal proceedings between the brothers. I think you're getting into a paranoid bad trip. Brothers who no longer speak to each other is common, especially in the context of a rock band which invigorates tensions.
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Post by raphaellins on Jul 19, 2023 4:14:17 GMT -5
Maybe Liam has started to sing “roll it over” live as a sign of “let things that happened in the past, let’s roll it over”
You can notice from some lyrics that Liam knows what he did, but Noel needs to admit that he needs to forgive him. Not for the band, but as a brothers… I don’t have hopes that they will do a reunion, but, if they at least get along as a brothers again would be really great
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 19, 2023 4:52:57 GMT -5
Liam would do it tomorrow if it was seriously on the cards. Noel hasn’t wanted too but now there’s a money reason why he might. The brothers are playing all of us. They deeply understand that the feud aspect, or at the very least the perception of a feud in the papers/online - is the value of interest here. It keeps us talking about them, streaming the songs, speculating if and when. However, objectively speaking, this long coveted feud aspect of the band could be worth more than the music aspect in terms of brand and marketing. They don't even need to coordinate this aspect, it's been their default MO since '93. They know this game well. And even if somehow they were in contact directly or indirectly - they wouldn't allow the public any inkling of this possibility as it would literally tank the edginess of the brand overnight. People don't want a reunion to see and hear 'the songs' played. They want to witness the brothers in the vicinity of each other. And that is ma$$ive. This is why both of them are coy/shitting themselves around planning because they both know they get one last crack at monetising the Ferrari. Neither wants to take responsibility for fear of fumbling. "We don't speak" is the always their first answer. And rightly so. People still actually believe them. Do people need a little time to wake up, wake up? That's some tinfoil hat stuff.
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Post by mossy on Jul 19, 2023 12:44:29 GMT -5
Very glad to click into this thread to find it is just about reunion rumours and that Noel hasn’t become a paedo. 🎻
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Post by jezza2 on Jul 19, 2023 14:38:29 GMT -5
I can’t believe I’m sayin this but this is not Lawler vs Kaufman, it’s just good old fashioned sibling hate. Don’t take it so seriously.
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