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Post by definitelybemorning on May 14, 2023 10:48:28 GMT -5
Check it out, finally got the stems, I started with My Big Mouth since rockers are the ones which suffers the most with all the production. Moving to It's Gettin Better (Man!!). Bad news for (some of you) - going to shorten most of songs.
Trivia: Guitars in the background are taken from Knebworth performance
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Post by walterglass on May 14, 2023 11:46:53 GMT -5
Much more listenable!
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Post by The Chief on May 14, 2023 17:21:55 GMT -5
Definitely more breathing space here. I'm not a fan of the start though, there's a bit of chaos on the album track that should be kept IMO. Liam's voice is too much in the foreground, like just a smidge, and the drums are too much in the background. We need to hear that beat!
Great job though!
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Post by glider on May 14, 2023 23:45:51 GMT -5
I recommend uploading these to YouTube. SoundCloud is terrible now. Also much easier for those to download.
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Post by definitelybemorning on May 15, 2023 7:29:20 GMT -5
I recommend uploading these to YouTube. SoundCloud is terrible now. Also much easier for those to download. Got nuked for copyright |
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Post by puffra on May 15, 2023 14:13:50 GMT -5
Check it out, finally got the stems, I started with My Big Mouth since rockers are the ones which suffers the most with all the production. Moving to It's Gettin Better (Man!!). Bad news for (some of you) - going to shorten most of songs.
Trivia: Guitars in the background are taken from Knebworth performance
> finally got the stems What stems? AI separated or the real deal?! |
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Post by Supersonic on May 15, 2023 14:16:17 GMT -5
Check it out, finally got the stems, I started with My Big Mouth since rockers are the ones which suffers the most with all the production. Moving to It's Gettin Better (Man!!). Bad news for (some of you) - going to shorten most of songs.
Trivia: Guitars in the background are taken from Knebworth performance
> finally got the stems What stems? AI separated or the real deal?! I assume just AI seperated. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 19, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5
This would be a fucking perfect effort if you hadn't taken out that final pre-chorus...
Taking any pre-chorus out of My Big Mouth should be a criminal offence.
Really, though, it's a good mix and I hope you do more. But put that pre-chorus back in!
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Post by definitelybemorning on May 21, 2023 9:03:40 GMT -5
This would be a fucking perfect effort if you hadn't taken out that final pre-chorus... Taking any pre-chorus out of My Big Mouth should be a criminal offence. Really, though, it's a good mix and I hope you do more. But put that pre-chorus back in! I knew some of you wouldn't like it - but my goal is both to improve sound and make songs more friendly to plain listeners. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 21, 2023 9:30:13 GMT -5
This would be a fucking perfect effort if you hadn't taken out that final pre-chorus... Taking any pre-chorus out of My Big Mouth should be a criminal offence. Really, though, it's a good mix and I hope you do more. But put that pre-chorus back in! I knew some of you wouldn't like it - but my goal is both to improve sound and make songs more friendly to plain listeners. And taking out that pre-chorus doesn't help either! It's the catchiest, most casual-friendly melody in the song. We all know Be Here Now suffers from bloated songs, but a lot of edits are in the wrong spirit; if "My Big Mouth" had been on Definitely Maybe, no-one would think of it needing to be shorter. It's fine at five minutes; the structure is tight, nothing drags. And if you are intent on a trim, then the pre-chorus is the last thing to take out. Trim the second set of verses, perhaps, or the first chorus - anything but that majestic swirl of the pre-chorus. You've done a fucking excellent job at bringing out the sound here, mate, and I hope you continue. It's always great to have sharing their stuff, particularly when it's high-effort stuff like this. But I think a more sensible policy is either to be more discreet with the edits, or put out the unedited versions as well so that people can have all options open. I just can't go back to this mix since it slices out the best part of the track. Excited to hear more, though! If it was a crap remix I wouldn't bother offering constructive criticism at all. |
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Post by definitelybemorning on May 21, 2023 16:17:52 GMT -5
I knew some of you wouldn't like it - but my goal is both to improve sound and make songs more friendly to plain listeners. And taking out that pre-chorus doesn't help either! It's the catchiest, most casual-friendly melody in the song. Look, we all know Be Here Now suffers from bloated songs, but a lot of edits are in the wrong spirit; if "My Big Mouth" had been on Definitely Maybe, no-one would think of it needing to be shorter. It's fine at five minutes; the structure is tight, nothing drags. And if you are intent on a trim, then the pre-chorus is the last thing to take out. Trim the second set of verses, perhaps, or the first chorus - anything but that majestic swirl of the pre-chorus. You've done a fucking excellent job at bringing out the sound here, mate, and I hope you continue. It's always great to have sharing their stuff, particularly when it's high-effort stuff like this. But I think a more sensible policy is either to be more discreet with the edits, or put out the unedited versions as well so that people can have all options open. I just can't go back to this mix since it slices out the best part of the track. Excited to hear more, though! If it was a crap remix I wouldn't bother offering constructive criticism at all.
Thank you, I find your responses really valuable and I really know you've listened song carefully!
Well, will think about restoring last pre-chorus, since I'd like to upload final versions of songs on Youtube and soundcloud releases aren't the final ones - all suggestions are still welcome. My other idea is to change pitch in some songs from 440 to 445 since there are Oasis songs using this (like Roll With It or Some Might Say). Recently posted It's Gettin Better (Man!!) on my soundcloud, spoiler: i've cut some chorus repetitions, it's 5:06 instead of 7:00 now. If I manage to get Knebworth guitars I will include them in the mix because now these are from Mustique demos and London studios performance.
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Post by The Escapist on May 22, 2023 0:12:40 GMT -5
And taking out that pre-chorus doesn't help either! It's the catchiest, most casual-friendly melody in the song. Look, we all know Be Here Now suffers from bloated songs, but a lot of edits are in the wrong spirit; if "My Big Mouth" had been on Definitely Maybe, no-one would think of it needing to be shorter. It's fine at five minutes; the structure is tight, nothing drags. And if you are intent on a trim, then the pre-chorus is the last thing to take out. Trim the second set of verses, perhaps, or the first chorus - anything but that majestic swirl of the pre-chorus. You've done a fucking excellent job at bringing out the sound here, mate, and I hope you continue. It's always great to have sharing their stuff, particularly when it's high-effort stuff like this. But I think a more sensible policy is either to be more discreet with the edits, or put out the unedited versions as well so that people can have all options open. I just can't go back to this mix since it slices out the best part of the track. Excited to hear more, though! If it was a crap remix I wouldn't bother offering constructive criticism at all.
Thank you, I find your responses really valuable and I really know you've listened song carefully!
Well, will think about restoring last pre-chorus, since I'd like to upload final versions of songs on Youtube and soundcloud releases aren't the final ones - all suggestions are still welcome. My other idea is to change pitch in some songs from 440 to 445 since there are Oasis songs using this (like Roll With It or Some Might Say). Recently posted It's Gettin Better (Man!!) on my soundcloud, spoiler: i've cut some chorus repetitions, it's 5:06 instead of 7:00 now. If I manage to get Knebworth guitars I will include them in the mix because now these are from Mustique demos and London studios performance.
Would I be right in saying you've added some lead guitar dubs of your own to the My Big Mouth mix? They sound great, if so; I'd love to have the audio files of those in isolation if you have them! |
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Post by definitelybemorning on May 23, 2023 15:52:45 GMT -5
Yes, all the solos are my rerecordings, although I don't change much in them to keep things Noelish  I bought these isolations from one guy who has patreon, as a patreon-only-stuff, so I'd prefer not to publish them. It's over 1gb of data, as they're flacs. Currently working on Fade In-Out... and what I change is not only cutting refrains or re-recording guitars (Johnny Depp slides are still there!). This time the keyword is: g-mex |
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Post by Supersonic on May 23, 2023 16:06:01 GMT -5
Yes, all the solos are my rerecordings, although I don't change much in them to keep things Noelish I bought these isolations from one guy who has patreon, as a patreon-only-stuff, so I'd prefer not to publish them. It's over 1gb of data, as they're flacs. Currently working on Fade In-Out... and what I change is not only cutting refrains or re-recording guitars (Johnny Depp slides are still there!). This time the keyword is: g-mex Do you have a link to the patreon? |
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Post by eeztheman on Jun 23, 2023 16:42:21 GMT -5
You can certainly hear that there's more breathing room in the tracks you have done so far.......sounds good to my ears, great stuff - always nice to hear different mixes and this is a great job you have done on the tracks so far
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Post by DrSnowbody on Jun 24, 2023 1:05:46 GMT -5
Pure magic...
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Post by capo2ndfret on Jul 5, 2023 4:32:51 GMT -5
The two things I want most from Oasis - 1995 LG singing Don't Look Back in Anger and the official Be Here Now stems so everyone can make their own mixes. I'm not sure which one is less likely.
I actually agree with other posters, I don't think the removal of that last prechorus was necessary. Be Here Now choruses are rather weak across the board and so without the build up it removes the teeth from the chorus. Overall, sounds a bit dry, but that's what you have to sacrifice
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