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Post by glider on Mar 24, 2023 22:37:55 GMT -5
9.5/10. After a few listens this may be a top 10 song in his catalogue, slowly inching into the top 5 column for me with more listens. Never heard him this personal and introspective. This album is going to be an emotional rollercoaster.
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Post by carlober on Mar 25, 2023 2:13:50 GMT -5
I can't really give it a rating at the moment, but it did hit the right spot.
I nearly get teary-eyed at every listen.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Mar 25, 2023 4:53:34 GMT -5
It's a beautiful, beautiful song. Well written, the melody is great - particularly the bridge part 'And if you say so...' then into the chorus, then the drop at the end of the chorus into 'Cause I'm sleeping'. It's understated rather than over-produced. The strings are incredible and the lyrics utterly heartbreaking - Noel with his heart on his sleeve. It's a difficult listen and is still bringing me to tears each time: 'But if love ain't enough to make it alright, leave me dead to the world'.
No other Noel / Oasis song has hit me as profoundly as instantly as Dead To The World. The only things I can liken it to are hearing Wonderwall and Cast No Shadow for the first time on that Radio 1 documentary before Morning Glory came out. It's all too easy to take Wonderwall for granted but the first time you heard that acoustic guitar and then Liam ripping across it was a hairs up on the back of the neck moment. And then the subtly and beauty of Cast No Shadow.
The other similar moment was hearing the full version of Live Forever for the first time. I had the Noel sung acoustic version from Creation Undrugged recorded off the radio but didn't hear the full version until I was in the record shop on the day of release. I had to wait for the postman to deliver the records, then the guy in the shop opened the box and stuck Live Forever on loudly and there it was - that intro ('Oh yeah'), those drums and then Liam. Mind blowing. That was the point for me when I realised Oasis were going to be massive - it was just so incredible.
It gets harder to hold on to beautiful memories as the years pass but hearing Dead To The World will be one I cherish.
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Post by yogurt on Mar 25, 2023 5:29:18 GMT -5
6/10
Its has nice melodies and has nice chord progressions
The chorus is lacking for me though, it's fine but it sounds more like it could be a bridge if there wasn't one already
I'd expect something with a stronger melody for the chorus, it just falls a bit short at that point.
The instrumentation is very nice though
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Post by carl80 on Mar 25, 2023 7:34:08 GMT -5
Gave it a 9, great stuff from the Chief, not that I’m giving it a 10 but I still prefer Pretty Boy just cause of how different it is, we’ve had lots of these ballads over the years, this might be one of the best.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 25, 2023 7:55:46 GMT -5
Dead To The World
Some really nice instrumental moments. Never thought I'd say this about a Noel Gallagher track but the accordion passage is probably my favourite part. The strings work well and create a somewhat haunting atmosphere. The vocal melody reminds me of 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' a bit. All in all it fits in with the baroque pop (?) kinda stuff he's been doing since the EPs that I think have been relatively tepid. This is one of the better ones but it doesn't resonate with me much. I think it'll work just fine as an album track and offer something a bit different but is it one of Noel's better tunes? I don't think so. It sounds like a deeper cut, not so much a single. 7/10 Previous Council Skies reviews: live4ever.proboards.com/post/1714298Ranking the songs so far: 1) Trying to Find a World That's Been and Gone: Part 1 [Demo] - 8/10 2) Pretty Boy - 7/10 3) Dead To The World - 7/10 4) Easy Now - 6/10 5) We're Gonna Get There In The End [Demo] - 6/10
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Post by Teotihuacan on Mar 25, 2023 8:53:52 GMT -5
That accordion part was always my fave bit of It's Good To Be Free though. Did Bonehead play an uncredited role on the accordion on Dead to the World?
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Post by noeloliam on Mar 25, 2023 9:57:17 GMT -5
I got into Oasis in 2009, right before they split up. Hearing NGHFB #1 was honestly kind of dissapointng for me as I already knew EOTR, IIHAG and I Wanna Live in a Dream from YouTube (soundcheck versions and demo).
Hearing Dead To The World for the first time, was probably the closest I've ever got to what it must have been like to hear a brand new, unheard Oasis single back in the day, like hearing Wonderwall in 1995 for the first time. I think I get it now.
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Post by vito81 on Mar 25, 2023 13:36:26 GMT -5
I love it more (if it’s possible) with every listening…
What a tune, it really hurts.
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Post by captainsoul on Mar 25, 2023 19:21:21 GMT -5
5/10
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Post by walterglass on Mar 25, 2023 21:22:12 GMT -5
I genuinely feel this is up there with some of Noel’s best ever songs. Surely fate will have it cross over into cultural importance? I think it’s inevitably gonna become part of the songbook.
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Post by Sadie on Mar 25, 2023 21:25:16 GMT -5
I used some software to lower the key by a semitone to make it easier to figure out the chords (I'm not good at deducing chords on first listen when you need a capo) and wow, I think I actually improved it. Try it and you won't regret it
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Post by MacaRonic on Apr 3, 2023 3:22:24 GMT -5
Beautiful song, gave it an 8.
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Post by oasisglory on Apr 3, 2023 5:53:35 GMT -5
I used some software to lower the key by a semitone to make it easier to figure out the chords (I'm not good at deducing chords on first listen when you need a capo) and wow, I think I actually improved it. Try it and you won't regret it Spot on here, mate - the original already hits you in the centre at certain points, and this lowering down of the key keeps that feeling. Noel has this uncanny ability to stop you in your tracks whilst a song of his goes right to what you're feeling, which is what I got here. A lot of people have remarked that he's provided the soundtrack to their lives, and I'd echo that sentiment here. Dead to the World has those quintessential Noel touches to it both musically (chord progression, simple melody, string arrangements) and lyrically (short, meaningful phrases and sentiments), which is great to hear again after the cool experimentation and stretching into new soundscapes on Who Built The Moon? It's hard not to make that link between what's going on in his personal space with the breakdown of his long term relationship and the song itself - in that, we get this personal poignancy that's slightly withdrawn from his universal truth approach. Nice one, Chief
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Post by mouth on Apr 4, 2023 4:02:31 GMT -5
I used some software to lower the key by a semitone to make it easier to figure out the chords (I'm not good at deducing chords on first listen when you need a capo) and wow, I think I actually improved it. Try it and you won't regret it Spot on here, mate - the original already hits you in the centre at certain points, and this lowering down of the key keeps that feeling. Noel has this uncanny ability to stop you in your tracks whilst a song of his goes right to what you're feeling, which is what I got here. A lot of people have remarked that he's provided the soundtrack to their lives, and I'd echo that sentiment here. Dead to the World has those quintessential Noel touches to it both musically (chord progression, simple melody, string arrangements) and lyrically (short, meaningful phrases and sentiments), which is great to hear again after the cool experimentation and stretching into new soundscapes on Who Built The Moon? It's hard not to make that link between what's going on in his personal space with the breakdown of his long term relationship and the song itself - in that, we get this personal poignancy that's slightly withdrawn from his universal truth approach. Nice one, Chief what's a "simple melody" supposed to be? there is no such thing. a melody is a melody is a melody. it's either good and it's going to be stuck in your head or it's not. it's a gift to come up with such things, but i don't know what it would have to do with simplicity. what would be a complex melody anyways?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 4, 2023 4:11:18 GMT -5
I keep listening and it just gets better, what a tune
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Post by oasisglory on Apr 4, 2023 12:18:08 GMT -5
Spot on here, mate - the original already hits you in the centre at certain points, and this lowering down of the key keeps that feeling. Noel has this uncanny ability to stop you in your tracks whilst a song of his goes right to what you're feeling, which is what I got here. A lot of people have remarked that he's provided the soundtrack to their lives, and I'd echo that sentiment here. Dead to the World has those quintessential Noel touches to it both musically (chord progression, simple melody, string arrangements) and lyrically (short, meaningful phrases and sentiments), which is great to hear again after the cool experimentation and stretching into new soundscapes on Who Built The Moon? It's hard not to make that link between what's going on in his personal space with the breakdown of his long term relationship and the song itself - in that, we get this personal poignancy that's slightly withdrawn from his universal truth approach. Nice one, Chief what's a "simple melody" supposed to be? there is no such thing. a melody is a melody is a melody. it's either good and it's going to be stuck in your head or it's not. it's a gift to come up with such things, but i don't know what it would have to do with simplicity. what would be a complex melody anyways? yeah, fair enough - in hindsight, simple is probably not the word to use, was just more conveying that the quality of the melody just sits well in the ears straightaway without having to 'think about/analyse' it too much and sticks in your head, as you point out
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Post by welshylad on Apr 4, 2023 16:34:51 GMT -5
It does get better the more you listen to it It’s the first song I’ve learned to play on the guitar in a few years, so that says something 😎
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Post by Aman on Apr 14, 2023 2:09:55 GMT -5
6/10 Its has nice melodies and has nice chord progressions The chorus is lacking for me though, it's fine but it sounds more like it could be a bridge if there wasn't one already I'd expect something with a stronger melody for the chorus, it just falls a bit short at that point. The instrumentation is very nice though Yeah, I'd agree with all of that. Though, I gave it a 5/10.
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