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Post by tiger40 on Jun 13, 2023 12:41:20 GMT -5
It is impossible for me to separate the music from the era and the nostalgia. The holy trinity of DM WTSMG and BHN, everything about that time just felt better. The attitude, the line up, the gigs, the pre-internet hype of news leaking out, the simplicity of it all, Liam's voice, even the band logo was better. By the time DOYS was released, the whole thing just felt like a very pale imitation of the glory days and the wheels had fallen off years ago. I can't separate the music from that general vibe. Again I accept my viewpoint is completely biased and probably not entirely fair. There were some very good songs that came out of that post 2000 run, and the musicianship was clearly better, but then I don't think Oasis was ever about musicianship for me. Now I'm in my mid 40s and I love High Flying Birds so I'm probably a boring old fart now anyway, what do I know?! Hard agree on all that. I’ve enjoyed both solo careers several times more than later Oasis. It’s all so much better. Agreed. |
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Post by Firefly on Jun 13, 2023 15:11:20 GMT -5
I enjoyed it all, the whole lot. Wouldn't change a thing. Don't go in for wanting albums to be changed, or swap this song for that, or wishing things had turned out differently. All the albums turned out the way they did because that's what the band was going through at the time. Albums are like musical diaries. All the albums show the journey, all the good and bad decisions, good and bad attitudes. No real preference for early or late Oasis, I like it all just the same, if pushed probably lean more towards Be Here Now era. And obviously memories associated with Morning Glory mean that's a sentimental favourite, but honestly love it all.
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Post by aesthetic on Jun 14, 2023 6:30:11 GMT -5
I enjoyed it all, the whole lot. Wouldn't change a thing. Don't go in for wanting albums to be changed, or swap this song for that, or wishing things had turned out differently. All the albums turned out the way they did because that's what the band was going through at the time. Albums are like musical diaries. All the albums show the journey, all the good and bad decisions, good and bad attitudes. No real preference for early or late Oasis, I like it all just the same, if pushed probably lean more towards Be Here Now era. And obviously memories associated with Morning Glory mean that's a sentimental favourite, but honestly love it all. The Be Here Now era was immense! It seems to get quite roundly trashed these days, even by Noel himself, but being a late teen in 97/98 was an amazing time to be alive, the best of best times. I was still going to the occasional gig and buying the albums right until the end, out of a sense of loyalty to them and the good times I think, which in retrospect seems very odd now that I think about it -- listening to a band and going to the shows while thinking it was all a bit crap. But even though the performances weren't great, I still had a bloody good time. But by the time they split up it had started to feel overdue I think. And then Beady Eye followed and it was like, yeah I'm done with this now (although Four Letter Word is still a banger to be fair). People who got into Oasis later probably have a much more objective and fair opinion, certainly on the music. Again, I'm an old fart, what do I know?! |
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Post by aesthetic on Jun 14, 2023 6:35:18 GMT -5
I’ve enjoyed both solo careers several times more than later Oasis. It’s all so much better. High Flying Birds, absolutely yes. I listen to Noel's albums way more than the last 3 Oasis albums. Liam's solo stuff, not for me. I liked some of the stuff on the first album but it all feels a bit hollow to me, this whole hired guns approach to song writing is at odds with everything Oasis stood for isn't it? Maybe it isn't aimed at me, I dunno. Fair play to those who enjoy it though, I bet everyone has a wicked time at his gigs. |
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Post by starkidd on Jun 14, 2023 7:07:51 GMT -5
I really can't understand that on a Oasis forum, people DON'T want them back together. As an Oasis fan, I would LOVE to see them live again. With Bonehead pumping the wall of sound with his barre chords and Noel + Gem doing solo duties. Liam is singing better than he has done since 2001 and why the hell not? Throw in a an album there as well and I'm in the happy camp.
I've seen Noel live since going Solo, and it's just not the same. Bring out the Epiphone/gibson guitars, vox + Marshall combo and play that huge EM chord again =). I would love to hear THAT sound again live.
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Post by jh on Jun 14, 2023 8:08:47 GMT -5
I enjoyed it all, the whole lot. Wouldn't change a thing. Don't go in for wanting albums to be changed, or swap this song for that, or wishing things had turned out differently. All the albums turned out the way they did because that's what the band was going through at the time. Albums are like musical diaries. All the albums show the journey, all the good and bad decisions, good and bad attitudes. No real preference for early or late Oasis, I like it all just the same, if pushed probably lean more towards Be Here Now era. And obviously memories associated with Morning Glory mean that's a sentimental favourite, but honestly love it all. The Be Here Now era was immense! It seems to get quite roundly trashed these days, even by Noel himself, but being a late teen in 97/98 was an amazing time to be alive, the best of best times. I was still going to the occasional gig and buying the albums right until the end, out of a sense of loyalty to them and the good times I think, which in retrospect seems very odd now that I think about it -- listening to a band and going to the shows while thinking it was all a bit crap. But even though the performances weren't great, I still had a bloody good time. But by the time they split up it had started to feel overdue I think. And then Beady Eye followed and it was like, yeah I'm done with this now (although Four Letter Word is still a banger to be fair). People who got into Oasis later probably have a much more objective and fair opinion, certainly on the music. Again, I'm an old fart, what do I know?! Be Here now era was superb - literally grabbing that single and loving the b sides...yes...B SIDES KIDS!!!!!!! |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 14, 2023 17:03:56 GMT -5
I hate to say this but what the world needs is *not* an Oasis reunion that will never live up to the hype. What the world *really* needs is a new young band as good and exciting as they were in their prime (or at least half as good and exciting)
Both Liam and Noel are doing great in their solo careers and they should continue that way. No changes needed imho
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Post by aesthetic on Jun 15, 2023 10:56:36 GMT -5
I hate to say this but what the world needs is *not* an Oasis reunion that will never live up to the hype. What the world *really* needs is a new young band as good and exciting as they were in their prime (or at least half as good and exciting) Both Liam and Noel are doing great in their solo careers and they should continue that way. No changes needed imho This sums it up perfectly for me, bang on. It would be entertaining to see the carnage and spectacle of it all, but the gigs would just feel a bit...odd? Both in their 50s, Noel closer to 60, doing songs like Rock N Roll Star. I dunno man it would just feel kinda weird. And the only reason they would do it is purely for the cash, not for the love. Noel would definitely be looking for a huge pay day and if Liam was so in love with the idea, he would have called him by now. Not for me. But I'm sure everyone would have an amazing time and fair play to them. |
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Post by jh on Jun 16, 2023 2:04:12 GMT -5
I hate to say this but what the world needs is *not* an Oasis reunion that will never live up to the hype. What the world *really* needs is a new young band as good and exciting as they were in their prime (or at least half as good and exciting) Both Liam and Noel are doing great in their solo careers and they should continue that way. No changes needed imho This sums it up perfectly for me, bang on. It would be entertaining to see the carnage and spectacle of it all, but the gigs would just feel a bit...odd? Both in their 50s, Noel closer to 60, doing songs like Rock N Roll Star. I dunno man it would just feel kinda weird. And the only reason they would do it is purely for the cash, not for the love. Noel would definitely be looking for a huge pay day and if Liam was so in love with the idea, he would have called him by now. Not for me. But I'm sure everyone would have an amazing time and fair play to them. Good to go out on top. So to speak...it always a bad sad seeing bands such as the Who or Rolling Stones playing tunes that are 100% a bit cringey...given their age!! |
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 17, 2023 15:41:55 GMT -5
This sums it up perfectly for me, bang on. It would be entertaining to see the carnage and spectacle of it all, but the gigs would just feel a bit...odd? Both in their 50s, Noel closer to 60, doing songs like Rock N Roll Star. I dunno man it would just feel kinda weird. And the only reason they would do it is purely for the cash, not for the love. Noel would definitely be looking for a huge pay day and if Liam was so in love with the idea, he would have called him by now. Not for me. But I'm sure everyone would have an amazing time and fair play to them. Good to go out on top. So to speak...it always a bad sad seeing bands such as the Who or Rolling Stones playing tunes that are 100% a bit cringey...given their age!! Disagree one million percent. It makes them happy, and their audience happy, so all good! |
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Post by walterglass on Jun 18, 2023 22:47:02 GMT -5
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 19, 2023 5:02:10 GMT -5
I think that we already knew that.
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Post by somemightsoya on Jul 11, 2023 14:58:39 GMT -5
I’d like them to do the DOYS tour/setlist with Liam’s fixed voice. And play Bag It Up.
They didn’t go out on a high….they went out as two people who didn’t engage on stage at all for months.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 11, 2023 15:14:22 GMT -5
I just want them to rule the world.
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Post by jezza2 on Jul 11, 2023 15:30:58 GMT -5
Honestly Paul's not even the one that could pull them together in my eyes, that would be Peggy. Paul might be a close 2 or 3, but I don't know who else there'd be. Again, Oasis does not need to reform. I'd rather see them make amends (Liam probably still hasn't apologized for what he said in 2000 and there's a good chance a good chunk of bitterness was from that fight) and get on with it. Liam's happy, Noel's happy(?) and leave it at that. |
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Post by walterglass on Jul 11, 2023 22:27:35 GMT -5
Honestly Paul's not even the one that could pull them together in my eyes, that would be Peggy. Paul might be a close 2 or 3, but I don't know who else there'd be. Again, Oasis does not need to reform. I'd rather see them make amends (Liam probably still hasn't apologized for what he said in 2000 and there's a good chance a good chunk of bitterness was from that fight) and get on with it. Liam's happy, Noel's happy(?) and leave it at that. I actually think it’d be a disaster. So much tension, even now. We can accommodate chaotic relationships when we’re young. Not so much as we age. Any reunion - in my opinion - would be very short and very bitter. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 12, 2023 12:49:57 GMT -5
Honestly Paul's not even the one that could pull them together in my eyes, that would be Peggy. Paul might be a close 2 or 3, but I don't know who else there'd be. Again, Oasis does not need to reform. I'd rather see them make amends (Liam probably still hasn't apologized for what he said in 2000 and there's a good chance a good chunk of bitterness was from that fight) and get on with it. Liam's happy, Noel's happy(?) and leave it at that. I actually think it’d be a disaster. So much tension, even now. We can accommodate chaotic relationships when we’re young. Not so much as we age. Any reunion - in my opinion - would be very short and very bitter. Yeah, I agree with you and I've always thought that for a very long time. It didn't seem like that at first but as the years have gone by I feel very different about the whole thing now. |
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Post by capo2ndfret on Jul 15, 2023 8:40:33 GMT -5
Don't Believe the Truth is crap and I'm convinced that 90% of its reputation just comes from the general good vibes surrounding Oasis and indie music at the time. Take "The Importance of Being Idle" off and it's just a Beady Eye album with "Part of the Queue" snuck in there. Giants and Dig Out Your Soul bring a lot more to the party, deeply flawed as they are. If I'm honest, so does Heathen Chemistry. "Songbird" >> "Turn Up the Sun"/"Lyla". DBTT is really really bad lol. I listened to it again a few years ago and I was staggered how shit it was. HC does indeed have bigger highs than DBTT but lower lows if that makes sense. Would definitely say SOTSOG and DOYS are above both DBTT and HC as albums front to back. I find it really hard to rank them because each one only has about 3 good songs but Heathen Chemistry is dead last for me. Other than SCYHO, Songbird and the average Little by Little, the rest is dogs dinner. But that dog’s dinner is worse than the other albums for me. SOTSOG has Gas Panic!, Go Let It Out, and I guess Roll It Over (too long). WDIAGW and Sunday Morning Call are too long with duff choruses to me and the rest is pure dirge. DOYS has the first 5 tracks (all alright) and Falling Down - would have made a servicable EP. A record ruined by the garbage input of Andy and Gem. DBTT - Lyla, TIOBI, LTBL. Love like a bomb, turn up the sun and guess god thinks I’m Abel are okay. Personally I have the easiest time listening to this record all the way through but I can see why people would struggle, there aren’t any real stand outs. All these records are busted because Noel forgot how to write loads of great songs and looked to the band mates to pick up the slack, who couldn’t. I’d only want a reunion in the hopes they get back to producing rock n roll music and combine the best of their often average individual setlists. |
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