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Post by garylineker on Nov 28, 2022 19:16:16 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel.
I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 29, 2022 18:39:46 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel. I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as. I do believe Noel would've found a place for him anyway somehow, they're just too close
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Post by Jim on Nov 30, 2022 1:48:35 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel. I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as. Andy and Liam have both said on twitter over the years they have maintained contact with each other. Nothing about Gem.
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Post by smash on Nov 30, 2022 2:19:37 GMT -5
On this forum I've noticed a lot of people want Gem and Noel to be best pals. Noel himself said in a NME interview in 2015 “If I was giving him (Liam) any advice, I think he should stick with Gem as his wingman, because they were f*cking great mates and Gem really understood him." So basically, I think both brothers got along with Gem. He seems like a likeable guy. It's not a high school contest.
As for why Liam didn't hang out with him post Beady Eye, there is one factor that people haven't considered - the wives. All the wives were very good friends - I followed Nicole's twitter feed for a bit, and she clearly had a wonderful group of girlfriends who would go out often. When marriages end, it can get really awkward. I'm sure he wasn't anyone's favorite guy for a long while within that group.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 30, 2022 12:14:44 GMT -5
Bit tabloidy.
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Post by AppleScruff on Nov 30, 2022 14:36:39 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel. I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as. What a load of rubbish You “think” Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam? Based on what. A. He’s a professional. B. Let’s not forget Andy was just as culpable for Beady Eye coming to an end. I doubt Gem has anger for anyone.
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Post by Firefly on Nov 30, 2022 14:42:20 GMT -5
Assumed Liam didn't attend due to illness. He tweeted about being sick after coming off tour, blaming AC on planes. Said he had a fever, chills etc
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 30, 2022 15:40:54 GMT -5
Assumed Liam didn't attend due to illness. He tweeted about being sick after coming off tour, blaming AC on planes. Said he had a fever, chills etc He wouldn't have been invited. No chance he would be while Gem is in Noel's band.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 1, 2022 13:36:57 GMT -5
Assumed Liam didn't attend due to illness. He tweeted about being sick after coming off tour, blaming AC on planes. Said he had a fever, chills etc He wouldn't have been invited. No chance he would be while Gem is in Noel's band. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 5, 2022 2:29:19 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel. I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as. I always wondered what Liam's relationship with Gem was now, but Noel more or less gave it away a few years ago after Gem joined NGHFB. He said something like 'Liam claims I broke Oasis up to go solo, but I know for a fact he broke up Beady Eye via text and know how much it hurt the people in that band'. Obviously that could have only come from Gem or Chris Sharrock.
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Post by jh on Dec 5, 2022 5:05:14 GMT -5
Haha, Noel's wearing his usual bomber jacket, couldn't be arsed to wear a suit for the occasion. Haha I thought the same! …a like a bit of formality So Liam has the parka monkeys and Noel has the Bomber Baboons?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 5, 2022 6:07:49 GMT -5
Haha I thought the same! …a like a bit of formality So Liam has the parka monkeys and Noel has the Bomber Baboons? Oasis/Liam gigs always had those weirdos who look like they’re cosplaying as Liam. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone do the same with regards Noel, so he doesn’t have any bomber baboons! I’m sure there probably is one or two out there though 😅
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Post by garylineker on Dec 5, 2022 7:08:34 GMT -5
Obviously Liam was never going to be there given the situation, but I find it sad that he pulled the plug on Beady Eye like he did and didn't maintain his relationship with Gem or Andy. They both always spoke very highly of him and you could tell Andy especially much preferred him to Noel. I think there's actually quite a lot of anger from Gem towards Liam for the way he did that because after all he'd been through he could have easily been left without a job if the HFB line up was better than that plodding mess it started of as. What a load of rubbish You “think” Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam? Based on what. A. He’s a professional. B. Let’s not forget Andy was just as culpable for Beady Eye coming to an end. I doubt Gem has anger for anyone. Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too.
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 5, 2022 8:26:07 GMT -5
Congrats to Gem and his lovely wife. I wish them happy together for a long long time.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 5, 2022 9:38:05 GMT -5
What a load of rubbish You “think” Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam? Based on what. A. He’s a professional. B. Let’s not forget Andy was just as culpable for Beady Eye coming to an end. I doubt Gem has anger for anyone. Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. Not ironic as they’re not writing songs for him.
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Post by AppleScruff on Dec 5, 2022 16:44:36 GMT -5
What a load of rubbish You “think” Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam? Based on what. A. He’s a professional. B. Let’s not forget Andy was just as culpable for Beady Eye coming to an end. I doubt Gem has anger for anyone. Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. It wasn’t tough to follow, you guess that Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam. No substance behind that at all. Noel made a few disparaging comments about Liam… is that it? Gem had his injury in 2013 and I understand it took him quite a while before he was fit to play a guitar. I doubt he wasted any time being angry at former band mates. Do you think he joined Oasis in 2000 thinking he had a job for life? It’s just not how musicians operate.
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Post by warewolf95 on Dec 5, 2022 23:15:21 GMT -5
All the best to Gem and his new wife - Even though I don't have a high opinion on him (anymore). He already got divorced around 5 years ago from his ex-wife Lou after she was helping him through recovery following his accident and the whole time after BE broke up which was probably not that easy for his 2 kids either. That whole Beady Eye ending just seems so sad on so many levels. Band fell apart. Gem got hurt. Liam had an affair with child. Liam got divorced. Andy got divorced. Gem got divorced. That whole thing was total bullshit. I loved the first album. Sure it was derivative, but it was still excellent!!! The 2nd album built upon the first by leaps and bounds. I mean, the quality of the music was absolutely there and they were phenomenal live (I thought, anyways). I've always been firmly in "camp Noel", but goddamn do I adore Beady Eye. It was great to see them hungry after the dissolution of Oasis, but then they just gave up. I get it, personal stuff happens and unfortunately it seems they just hit some stupid problems in the BE era, buy maybe take a year off. Don't throw the band away.... Oi, I was just playing DGSS a few hours ago and it's just so FRUSTRATING to think about. I can't be one of the only ones out there that would love a genuine Beady Eye reunion one day.
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Post by jh on Dec 6, 2022 5:31:41 GMT -5
That whole Beady Eye ending just seems so sad on so many levels. Band fell apart. Gem got hurt. Liam had an affair with child. Liam got divorced. Andy got divorced. Gem got divorced. That whole thing was total bullshit. I loved the first album. Sure it was derivative, but it was still excellent!!! The 2nd album built upon the first by leaps and bounds. I mean, the quality of the music was absolutely there and they were phenomenal live (I thought, anyways). I've always been firmly in "camp Noel", but goddamn do I adore Beady Eye. It was great to see them hungry after the dissolution of Oasis, but then they just gave up. I get it, personal stuff happens and unfortunately it seems they just hit some stupid problems in the BE era, buy maybe take a year off. Don't throw the band away.... Oi, I was just playing DGSS a few hours ago and it's just so FRUSTRATING to think about. I can't be one of the only ones out there that would love a genuine Beady Eye reunion one day. i have alot of love for beady eye..the live gigs were brilliant..the very early raw ones at least
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 6, 2022 14:02:13 GMT -5
I love Beady Eye but I certainly don't want them to reform in anyway. Liam’s better on his own anyway and doesn't need them.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 6, 2022 18:40:23 GMT -5
I agree, Beady Eye were great live. Well, the DGSS gigs were - I thought they sounded a bit flat during BE but that was to be expected considering everything going on and the fact Gem was recovering from a serious brain injury at the time.
Their music was pretty shit, but they did have some good songs.
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Post by darmin on Dec 6, 2022 23:45:01 GMT -5
What a load of rubbish You “think” Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam? Based on what. A. He’s a professional. B. Let’s not forget Andy was just as culpable for Beady Eye coming to an end. I doubt Gem has anger for anyone. Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. Do you really believe everything that Noel says?
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 7, 2022 13:56:28 GMT -5
Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. Do you really believe everything that Noel says? That's a very good question. We all know what Noel is like at times.
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Post by noeloliam on Dec 11, 2022 11:26:25 GMT -5
This thread is quality.
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Post by garylineker on Dec 17, 2022 20:17:47 GMT -5
Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. Do you really believe everything that Noel says? Not at all but he's very unlikely to make up a story like Gem and Chris laughing at Liam without the two of them being pissed off at him. Be a bit unnecessary wouldn't it?
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Post by garylineker on Dec 17, 2022 20:20:35 GMT -5
Isn't a load of rubbish at all if you'd bothered to follow it all a little bit. As another poster said above, Noel has dropped in a few times in interviews that the rest of the band were hurt by Liam ending it that way. There's also been a few comments about them telling Noel embarrassing stories about Liam which I found a bit crass to be honest. I do wonder how they discuss Beady Eye tigether considering Noel slated all their songwriting skills etc. Very ironic his band now has half of Beady Eye in it too. It wasn’t tough to follow, you guess that Gem has a lot of anger towards Liam. No substance behind that at all. Noel made a few disparaging comments about Liam… is that it? Gem had his injury in 2013 and I understand it took him quite a while before he was fit to play a guitar. I doubt he wasted any time being angry at former band mates. Do you think he joined Oasis in 2000 thinking he had a job for life? It’s just not how musicians operate. I follow everything well enough to hazard a pretty well educated guess that Gem doesn't talk to Liam. And I don't think he has since Beady Eye split.
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