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Post by globe on Sept 27, 2022 16:22:41 GMT -5
Thought this shit-show deserved a thread of its own for discussion. She's only been PM for three weeks but by god she's really making a right c*nt of things is she not? If you thought Johnson and his gang were incompetent, you aint see nothing yet! Unconfirmed reports of some Tory MPs already handing in letters of no confidence  The big lenders pulling most of their mortgage deals, with the thought that the base interest rate might hit 6% within the next 3-6 months. So many folk are going to be screwed with their mortgage if that happens. Their conference is next week I believe, cannot wait to see how she spins things there, should be a wonderful watch. |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 27, 2022 16:49:22 GMT -5
I would be excited to see Starmer back nationalised energy and Proportional Representation if I had any faith in him to stick by those ideas, or any doubts that billionaire-owned media would convince enough of the public that they represent Chaotic Communist Stalin-era Lunacy (TM) in the event that Labour campaigned on them in an election.
As always, things will get worse before they get better. Truss will be part of that, I'm sure.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 27, 2022 17:28:57 GMT -5
All I can say is God help us all with this government. Like I've already said in another thread last weeks budget was an absolute disgrace doing nothing for normal people who are struggling while giving the rich a tax cut. But that's the Tories all over and they will never change.
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Post by funhouse on Sept 27, 2022 18:20:59 GMT -5
Thought this shit-show deserved a thread of its own for discussion. She's only been PM for three weeks but by god she's really making a right c*nt of things is she not? If you thought Johnson and his gang were incompetent, you aint see nothing yet! Unconfirmed reports of some Tory MPs already handing in letters of no confidence The big lenders pulling most of their mortgage deals, with the thought that the base interest rate might hit 6% within the next 3-6 months. So many folk are going to be screwed with their mortgage if that happens. Their conference is next week I believe, cannot wait to see how she spins things there, should be a wonderful watch. First thing she did was to kill the queen, and you're complaining? Give some credit where credit is due! |
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Post by dampcottage on Sept 27, 2022 20:34:56 GMT -5
The empire has only one place left to plunder, it's time for the establishment to tear it all up, sell it all off and jump ship, people talking about the "mini budget" saying the tories know they're fucked so they are raking in as much cash as they can before the next general election, ballix, there's gonna be nothing left in 2 years and by that stage more than half the uk will be living in a fuckin "special investment zone" owned by some shitehawk like bezos or that other baldy bastard musk, there'll be no voting for you poor bastards, or health care, education, no fuckin rights at all, fuck all, nothing, if they manage 2 more years with that shite going on and the possibility of the orange c u n t again in america, it's fuckin over
americas fucked either way, if that dick runs again and wins he's not leaving, not fuckin alive anyway, if he loses you're fucked even more, the brain-dead maga crowd won't be running about dressed like Vikings next time...
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Post by quantum on Sept 28, 2022 3:15:42 GMT -5
The empire has only one place left to plunder, it's time for the establishment to tear it all up, sell it all off and jump ship, people talking about the "mini budget" saying the tories know they're fucked so they are raking in as much cash as they can before the next general election, ballix, there's gonna be nothing left in 2 years and by that stage more than half the uk will be living in a fuckin "special investment zone" owned by some shitehawk like bezos or that other baldy bastard musk, there'll be no voting for you poor bastards, or health care, education, no fuckin rights at all, fuck all, nothing, if they manage 2 more years with that shite going on and the possibility of the orange c u n t again in america, it's fuckin over americas fucked either way, if that dick runs again and wins he's not leaving, not fuckin alive anyway, if he loses you're fucked even more, the brain-dead maga crowd won't be running about dressed like Vikings next time... Sounds like you need a dose of this... |
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Post by globe on Sept 28, 2022 4:37:01 GMT -5
Good old Tony, if only he hadn't got into bed with Dubya and started thinking he was the world's saviour eh
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Post by globe on Sept 28, 2022 9:12:00 GMT -5
BoE stepping in with some measures to prevent the UK essentially becoming the next Greece or Italy i.e bankrupt.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 28, 2022 13:02:09 GMT -5
Well, I've heard it all now I've just read in the news pages on Google that the Lincolnshire County Council ( who are Tory apparently) have rejected £1.5m cost of living plan to help people with the living crisis which Labour had called for because the Tories claim there's already help out there. Really? What help? We've hardly had any. And, guess what this council want to spend the money on instead? Repairing roads. Bloody disgusting but it doesn't surprise me though one bit.
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Post by dampcottage on Sept 28, 2022 13:32:30 GMT -5
The empire has only one place left to plunder, it's time for the establishment to tear it all up, sell it all off and jump ship, people talking about the "mini budget" saying the tories know they're fucked so they are raking in as much cash as they can before the next general election, ballix, there's gonna be nothing left in 2 years and by that stage more than half the uk will be living in a fuckin "special investment zone" owned by some shitehawk like bezos or that other baldy bastard musk, there'll be no voting for you poor bastards, or health care, education, no fuckin rights at all, fuck all, nothing, if they manage 2 more years with that shite going on and the possibility of the orange c u n t again in america, it's fuckin over americas fucked either way, if that dick runs again and wins he's not leaving, not fuckin alive anyway, if he loses you're fucked even more, the brain-dead maga crowd won't be running about dressed like Vikings next time... Sounds like you need a dose of this... ah good oul Tony! When he became pm in 97 I was 13, a year later university fees introduced, in 2002 I could have been at university but instead I had a job in a sammich factory, many minds to educate and all that shite.... It's no coincidence that as the arsehole gets older he's looking more and more like gollum |
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 29, 2022 2:26:04 GMT -5
BoE stepping in with some measures to prevent the UK essentially becoming the next Greece or Italy i.e bankrupt. My thought exactly. I wonder if they still are happy with Brexit. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 5:31:45 GMT -5
I have no support for any politicians whatsoever.
In the spirit of that, and of the way everything is spun in 'the news', it is worth noting that the high band tax cut to 40%, which labour are saying is the tories supporting their rich friends, takes it back to the level it was for the entire 13 years of blair/brown lab govt. Brown kicked it up to 50% in his last months as PM just before he lost an election so the incoming govt could be accused of 'supporting their rich friends'.
same as it ever was.
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME
anyone who wants to stand for election should be automatically disqualified.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 29, 2022 13:01:13 GMT -5
Globe is right this lot are a shit show. Of course they won't rip up last week's mini budget like calls from the Labour Party asked.
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Post by matt on Sept 29, 2022 16:26:37 GMT -5
I would be excited to see Starmer back nationalised energy and Proportional Representation if I had any faith in him to stick by those ideas, or any doubts that billionaire-owned media would convince enough of the public that they represent Chaotic Communist Stalin-era Lunacy (TM) in the event that Labour campaigned on them in an election. As always, things will get worse before they get better. Truss will be part of that, I'm sure. Oh the media are planting those seeds right now. See them all stating that the crash is due to fears of a Labour government, and that this is Gordon Brown's fault for making the 'rebellious' BoE independent from government. Was listening to the Tory lites presenting Radio 4s the World At 1 yesterday, no word of a lie they had some right wing nutjob 'economist' stating this wasn't the government's fault. It's shit like this that waters down the severity of the situation, makes people second guess the situation and come to their own stupid conclusion to give these bastard Tories another chance. The BBC's national output is as damaging to public opinion as the right wing nutjobs (different to its regional/local broadcast which proved today to have far better journalistic skill and holding to account than any of the Oxbridge lightweights who do the national broadcasts). |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 29, 2022 16:34:03 GMT -5
I would be excited to see Starmer back nationalised energy and Proportional Representation if I had any faith in him to stick by those ideas, or any doubts that billionaire-owned media would convince enough of the public that they represent Chaotic Communist Stalin-era Lunacy (TM) in the event that Labour campaigned on them in an election. As always, things will get worse before they get better. Truss will be part of that, I'm sure. Oh the media are planting those seeds right now. See them all stating that the crash is due to fears of a Labour government, and that this is Gordon Brown's fault for making the 'rebellious' BoE independent from government. Was listening to the Tory lites presenting Radio 4s the World At 1 yesterday, no word of a lie they had some right wing nutjob 'economist' stating this wasn't the government's fault. It's shit like this that waters down the severity of the situation, makes people second guess the situation and come to their own stupid conclusion to give these bastard Tories another chance. The BBC's national output is as damaging to public opinion as the right wing nutjobs (different to its regional/local broadcast which proved today to have far better journalistic skill and holding to account than any of the Oxbridge lightweights who do the national broadcasts). This is all part of why that it's accurate to say that the UK is a "managed" democracy. It's impossible to overstate how different the coverage of the last ten years of the economy would have been if there had been even the softest, most-pink-tied, centre-centre-left leaning Labour government overseeing it; they would have been ran out of office within one term and blamed for every economic downturn for the next three at least. You'd like to think at least some version of common sense will prevail in the end, but sadly, history tells us that it usually takes a great deal of unnecessary misery and death to get there. |
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 3:16:54 GMT -5
That's the 45p tax cut now cancelled, 4 weeks in and their first major u-turn |
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 3:35:36 GMT -5
Horrible Tory c*nts - this is the real face of them.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 3, 2022 6:18:09 GMT -5
Her twitter comment was "We get it and we listened".
No, you didn't, Liz.
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 3, 2022 13:01:19 GMT -5
That's the 45p tax cut now cancelled, 4 weeks in and their first major u-turn Yeah, and I wonder how many more U-turns they'll have? Mind you, they didn't have much choice with the tax cut thing after all the mess it caused. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 3, 2022 13:06:11 GMT -5
I see that Nadine Dorries has called on Truss to call an election if she wants to ditch Tory policies from the Johnson era.
Of course Truss won't call one as she knows full well that she and her hateful government won't win.
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Post by matt on Oct 3, 2022 13:18:05 GMT -5
Oh the media are planting those seeds right now. See them all stating that the crash is due to fears of a Labour government, and that this is Gordon Brown's fault for making the 'rebellious' BoE independent from government. Was listening to the Tory lites presenting Radio 4s the World At 1 yesterday, no word of a lie they had some right wing nutjob 'economist' stating this wasn't the government's fault. It's shit like this that waters down the severity of the situation, makes people second guess the situation and come to their own stupid conclusion to give these bastard Tories another chance. The BBC's national output is as damaging to public opinion as the right wing nutjobs (different to its regional/local broadcast which proved today to have far better journalistic skill and holding to account than any of the Oxbridge lightweights who do the national broadcasts). This is all part of why that it's accurate to say that the UK is a "managed" democracy. It's impossible to overstate how different the coverage of the last ten years of the economy would have been if there had been even the softest, most-pink-tied, centre-centre-left leaning Labour government overseeing it; they would have been ran out of office within one term and blamed for every economic downturn for the next three at least. You'd like to think at least some version of common sense will prevail in the end, but sadly, history tells us that it usually takes a great deal of unnecessary misery and death to get there. I think 'managed democracy' is the exact term for sure. I was just reading the BBC News this morning, and there was some puff piece on Kwarteng, elaborating on his sheer self-confidence with the headline "A politician who challenges established thinking", framed as if this is going against the 'convention' which as we know is a complete failure. Which opens up a debate to people that there is some merit in the farce he presided over given how unsatisfied people are with 'convention' in general. And that's the BBC, giving credence to utter nonsense in the name of 'balance'. It's dangerous stuff, and while they call it 'balance', I've come to the conclusion it is bias and an attempt at damage limitation to things like this. I totally agree that even the tiniest smidgen of a left leaning government doing something slightly wrong would become a hysterical with hunt, BBC included. Operation Rebuild will begin this week for the BBC when they attempt to restore faith in their dear leaders, under the illusion of 'balance' to maintain a sense of independence. As you say, the perfect example of a 'managed democracy'. |
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Post by globe on Oct 3, 2022 16:22:57 GMT -5
I see that Nadine Dorries has called on Truss to call an election if she wants to ditch Tory policies from the Johnson era. Of course Truss won't call one as she knows full well that she and her hateful government won't win. She's off to the House of Lords, one of Bojo's final acts. Off to enjoy her £300 a day expense account. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 3, 2022 18:37:17 GMT -5
I see that Nadine Dorries has called on Truss to call an election if she wants to ditch Tory policies from the Johnson era. Of course Truss won't call one as she knows full well that she and her hateful government won't win. She's off to the House of Lords, one of Bojo's final acts. Off to enjoy her £300 a day expense account. I wouldn't be at all surprised. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 5, 2022 13:03:40 GMT -5
Well as expected that was a shit speech from Truss at the Tory Conference today. Yet more lies which cannot be believed unless you're one of her supporters of course.
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 5, 2022 17:56:11 GMT -5
The best bit of the crap Truss speech was of course the Greenpeace banner. Now that bit was great and so true, well done Greenpeace.
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