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Post by DrSnowbody on Feb 28, 2022 2:45:53 GMT -5
I know that Knebworth has just been released very soon, I still enjoy it, it is my favorite official Oasis material today. But... a Mad can never get enough of this, I would like a release for MTV Unplugged but I find it difficult, I know many don't like it and I don't know who the release depends on, I also would like a release of the best of the be here now tour or at least a live album similar to Knebworth but from this era.
However it looks very difficult, Noel is late but sure, in 2016 he mentioned the launch of Knebworh for the 20th anniversary that for some reason was delayed 5 years. But in another interview recently he mentioned that he will eventually release a post-2000 b-sides compilation, I don't think it will take a vote to choose because there aren't as many songs as on 1994-1997.
I imagine it would be something like this:
1.Let's All Make Believe 2.(As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes In Hell 3.One Way Road 4.Carry Us All 5.Full On 6.Just Getting Older 7.Idler's Dream 8.Thank You For The Good Times 9.Shout It Out Loud 10.(You've Got) The Heart of A Star 11.Eyeball Tickler 12.Won't Let You Down 13.Pass Me Down The Wine 14.The Quiet Ones 15.Sittin' Here In Silence (On My Own) 16.Those Swollen Hand Blues
Even considering that there are only 14 songs like The Masterplan, a vote would be interesting in that case.
For DOYS b-sides, I don't know which of the 1000 TSoTL, IOT and FD remixes to pick.
Maybe there could be room for other songs like Helter Skelter, My Generation or other rarities that have never been on an Oasis album like Merry Xmas Everybody or Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulder?, these songs would be nice to have, more demos or other unreleased rarities.
I would like to know what you think about this hypothetical Second Masterplan.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Feb 28, 2022 3:25:36 GMT -5
For DOYS b-sides, I don't know which of the 1000 TSoTL, IOT and FD remixes to pick Noel chose the FD Chemical bros version to trail the Doys album in 2008, it's the only good remix IMO, it should be that one as having major historical interest (also the first Chems-Oasis collaboration, the 3rd Noel/Chems song).
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Post by fabulousbakers on Feb 28, 2022 15:28:53 GMT -5
...I would like to know what you think about this hypothetical Second Masterplan. Not the slightest bit interested - already got all those songs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2022 16:06:16 GMT -5
The A&R man says “I don’t hear a single”.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Mar 1, 2022 2:31:40 GMT -5
The A&R man says “I don’t hear a single”. Are you kidding? If Oasis released Let's All Make Believe now it would go number 1. Easily. A song about Liam and Noel (I know it isn't about them) not getting along anymore? Hit. Easily.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 1, 2022 7:44:48 GMT -5
The A&R man says “I don’t hear a single”. Are you kidding? If Oasis released Let's All Make Believe now it would go number 1. Easily. A song about Liam and Noel (I know it isn't about them) not getting along anymore? Hit. Easily. That was a Tom Petty reference for starters………. People have been aching for the last 20 years like adding LAMB would altered the course of history with SOTSOG. It’s just one song. Nothing would have changed. It would have made it a more complete album but not really changed it’s sales or impact. The song was even included on the USA editions. No difference.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 1, 2022 9:35:38 GMT -5
Ok I already have all those b-sides, but it would be cool having the songs in one single package.
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 1, 2022 14:07:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I too have all of those b.sides but it would be great to have a compilation of them all.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Mar 1, 2022 15:45:57 GMT -5
Ok I already have all those b-sides, but it would be cool having the songs in one single package. Just something to sit on the shelf and gather dust. I can make my own compilation of those songs - free of charge - in just a few minutes. In the end it's just an Oasis release that would take the spot of something more worthwhile from the band that we actually haven't heard before. Nothing "new" from the band for three years while this is being assembled and marketed? No thanks.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 1, 2022 17:43:07 GMT -5
The A&R man says “I don’t hear a single”. Are you kidding? If Oasis released Let's All Make Believe now it would go number 1. Easily. A song about Liam and Noel (I know it isn't about them) not getting along anymore? Hit. Easily. Really? As for the album, too much Noel singing.
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 1, 2022 17:58:28 GMT -5
Well, if it's gonna be a "Masterplan part 2," it needs to have at least one live B-Side. Columbia off of the Songbird single or Rock 'n' Roll Star off of Let There Be Love.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 1, 2022 20:25:35 GMT -5
I wish I still had the energy to write multiple paragraphed threads.
Stay young, kid.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 1, 2022 21:43:43 GMT -5
Ok I already have all those b-sides, but it would be cool having the songs in one single package. Just something to sit on the shelf and gather dust. I can make my own compilation of those songs - free of charge - in just a few minutes. In the end it's just an Oasis release that would take the spot of something more worthwhile from the band that we actually haven't heard before. Nothing "new" from the band for three years while this is being assembled and marketed? No thanks. Maybe, but that is not the point, with a proper compilation it would attract more attention for those songs I guess, let's not forget that the compilation The Masterplan gave a boost of popularity for some of their early b-sides, I believe Let's All Make Believe to be as good as anything on The Masterplan but for many it doesn't even exist. A box with b-sides and rarities all those songs into one single official package wouldn't hurt anybody - maybe Liam he he he - also songs like Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulder and Teotihuacan are still floating around aimlessly somewhere and it seems like Noel forgot they even exist.
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Post by DrSnowbody on Mar 1, 2022 22:54:56 GMT -5
Just something to sit on the shelf and gather dust. I can make my own compilation of those songs - free of charge - in just a few minutes. In the end it's just an Oasis release that would take the spot of something more worthwhile from the band that we actually haven't heard before. Nothing "new" from the band for three years while this is being assembled and marketed? No thanks. Maybe, but that is not the point, with a proper compilation it would attract more attention for those songs I guess, let's not forget that the compilation The Masterplan gave a boost of popularity for some of their early b-sides, I believe Let's All Make Believe to be as good as anything on The Masterplan but for many it doesn't even exist. A box with b-sides and rarities all those songs into one single official package wouldn't hurt anybody - maybe Liam he he he - also songs like Who Put The Weight Of The World On My Shoulder and Teotihuacan are still floating around aimlessly somewhere and it seems like Noel forgot they even exist. Holysh... finally someone understood the thread.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 1, 2022 23:07:09 GMT -5
Instead of the remixes and Those Swollen Hand Blues,
Boy With The Blues I Believe In All
And then
To Be Someone (or any of the other two Noel covers) My Generation Teotihuacan
Do away with
Full On Shout It Out Loud The Quiet Ones Sittin' Here In Silence (On My Own)
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Post by fluff123 on Mar 2, 2022 2:12:12 GMT -5
Got plans for this being pressed to vinyl. Also planning on an extended 'Lord Don't slow me down' double LP with b-sides from DBTT and DOYS. Just completing artwork now. Tracklisting is: Side A Eyeball Tickler Lord don't slow me down Pass me down the wine Side B I believe in all The quiet ones Who put the weight of the world on my shoulders? Side C Won't let you down Boy with the blues Sitting here in silence Side D Lord don't slow me down (duo vocal/reprise) Those swollen hand blues I can see it now
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Mar 3, 2022 12:43:32 GMT -5
I have been thinking about putting together an album from the b sides and rarities from this period for some time. This is the track listing I came up with:
Lord don't slow me down (Liam on vocals) (As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes in Hell Eyeball Tickler Pass Me Down the Wine I Believe in All Who put the weight of the world on my shoulders? Let's All Make Believe Within you Without you Shout it out loud Won't let you down Boy with the blues You've got the heart of a star
On a side note was Within you Without you ever officially released? Maybe on some magazine CD like those CDs that sometimes come with NME magazine or similar magazines?
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Post by underneaththesky on Mar 5, 2022 18:07:46 GMT -5
1. Let's All Make Believe 2. Eyeball Tickler 3. One Way Road 4. Songbird (demo) 5. Pass Me Down The Wine 6. Shout It Out Loud 7. Thank You For The Good Times 8. Boy With The Blues 9. Just Getting Older 10. I Believe In All 11. Idler's Dream 12. My Generation
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Post by The Chief on Mar 9, 2022 6:54:56 GMT -5
Are you kidding? If Oasis released Let's All Make Believe now it would go number 1. Easily. A song about Liam and Noel (I know it isn't about them) not getting along anymore? Hit. Easily. That was a Tom Petty reference for starters………. People have been aching for the last 20 years like adding LAMB would altered the course of history with SOTSOG. It’s just one song. Nothing would have changed. It would have made it a more complete album but not really changed it’s sales or impact. The song was even included on the USA editions. No difference. I agree! It's a brilliant song but it wouldn't have changed anything for SOTSOG apart for making an 11 track record. The SOTSOG era was a huge cruise ship brutally changing course and when that happens, the dinnerware might fall and break and some passengers are going to be seasick and offering them a filet mignon meal won't make it better. Are you kidding? If Oasis released Let's All Make Believe now it would go number 1. Easily. A song about Liam and Noel (I know it isn't about them) not getting along anymore? Hit. Easily. Really? As for the album, too much Noel singing. Also agree. That's the problem with a b-sides album post-2000. It would be hard to have it balanced with Liam singing. On The Masterplan there are 4 songs on 14 that Noel sings.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 9, 2022 9:28:57 GMT -5
That was a Tom Petty reference for starters………. People have been aching for the last 20 years like adding LAMB would altered the course of history with SOTSOG. It’s just one song. Nothing would have changed. It would have made it a more complete album but not really changed it’s sales or impact. The song was even included on the USA editions. No difference. I agree! It's a brilliant song but it wouldn't have changed anything for SOTSOG apart for making an 11 track record. The SOTSOG era was a huge cruise ship brutally changing course and when that happens, the dinnerware might fall and break and some passengers are going to be seasick and offering them a filet mignon meal won't make it better. Really? As for the album, too much Noel singing. Also agree. That's the problem with a b-sides album post-2000. It would be hard to have it balanced with Liam singing. On The Masterplan there are 4 songs on 14 that Noel sings. That's why an anthology would be much better. You could have all of Noels stuff on there plus Liam's outtakes and demo's from the period. Would offer more balance.
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Post by quantum on Mar 9, 2022 11:50:35 GMT -5
That was a Tom Petty reference for starters………. People have been aching for the last 20 years like adding LAMB would altered the course of history with SOTSOG. It’s just one song. Nothing would have changed. It would have made it a more complete album but not really changed it’s sales or impact. The song was even included on the USA editions. No difference. I agree! It's a brilliant song but it wouldn't have changed anything for SOTSOG apart for making an 11 track record. The SOTSOG era was a huge cruise ship brutally changing course and when that happens, the dinnerware might fall and break and some passengers are going to be seasick and offering them a filet mignon meal won't make it better. Yes LAMB would have helped in the UK, but perhaps turned the album into a 8/10 instead of a 7, so not on par with the first two. As you said the huge cruise ship was changing course and Noel was off the drugs... He confirmed what we were all thought.
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Post by DrSnowbody on Mar 9, 2022 12:11:10 GMT -5
I agree! It's a brilliant song but it wouldn't have changed anything for SOTSOG apart for making an 11 track record. The SOTSOG era was a huge cruise ship brutally changing course and when that happens, the dinnerware might fall and break and some passengers are going to be seasick and offering them a filet mignon meal won't make it better. Also agree. That's the problem with a b-sides album post-2000. It would be hard to have it balanced with Liam singing. On The Masterplan there are 4 songs on 14 that Noel sings. That's why an anthology would be much better. You could have all of Noels stuff on there plus Liam's outtakes and demo's from the period. Would offer more balance. Definitely
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Post by girllikeabomb on Mar 9, 2022 17:08:06 GMT -5
He confirmed what we were all thought.
All coke does is disinhibit you (introverts represent). Whatever it was that created those songs was already in him (and likely still is, just buried under a mountain of expectations ... )
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