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Post by matt on Feb 9, 2022 5:47:08 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I'm looking forward to Liam's new album more than Noel, especially if there's something a bit different about it as being reported (I say that as a lover of his first two albums too).
Not expecting too much from Noel on the next one as he's producing it by himself. I was eagerly awaiting another David Holmes collaboration before he typically got cold feet and binned that off. He's a fine and capable producer, but nothing to get your teeth stuck into. I expect Noel's new album to be much like his EPs - some tepid experimentations and merely pleasant mid-tempo songs ala Chasing Yesterday, but nothing fully blown, cinematic and epic like the cacophony of sound that we get from something like The Man Who Built The Moon. Meanwhile, the more traditional rockers will lack the vibrancy of that album and Liam's solo records.
Ideally I'd like to see him do something a bit more ambient, suggested in parts with his reworking of Live Forever. I think it would suit Noel if we want that melancholy and reflectiveness.
So Brian Eno? Four Tet? Just anyone exciting really. I think Liam owns the 'traditional' sound at the moment, and aside from a handful of songs (such as Dead In The Water), much of Noel's traditional output harken back to older and better songs of his.
This is just a fun discussion, so thoughts on who would be an ideal producer for Noel?
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 9, 2022 9:06:50 GMT -5
David Holmes!
Past that, Eno would be great. Honestly, just anyone who is willing to give Noel the shoves he obviously needs to make songs as vibrant as Holy Mountain and The Man Who Built the Moon. If it's more "standard" Noel then you'll get some tunes as always, but I struggle to picture it reaching the heights of Who Built the Moon. I remember when the trailer for that album came out, stuffed with different sounds and colours, and it felt so exciting - more vibes like that would be great, but I'm not sure we'll get it.
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Post by rob80 on Feb 9, 2022 10:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jim on Feb 9, 2022 14:47:16 GMT -5
He picked some fantastic people to remix Chasing Yesterday. Psychemagik, 3D, Beyond The Wizards Sleeve, David Holmes, The Reflex and the legendary Andrew Weatherall (RIP). I personally would love Erol Alkan and Richard Norris as they add so much colour and a freshness to their work but I just don’t think Noel likes being told what to do, simple as that unfortunately. |
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Post by quantum on Feb 9, 2022 15:36:19 GMT -5
Owen Morris
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 9, 2022 15:45:36 GMT -5
Kevin Parker
Nigel Godrich
Damon Albarn
Madlib
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Post by supertronic on Feb 9, 2022 16:13:17 GMT -5
I'm glad he's confirmed David Holmes is still working on new WBTM tracks.
I'd like him to work with Sardy again. The debut album always feel so warm. That era just sounded like magic.
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Post by dampcottage on Feb 9, 2022 16:29:33 GMT -5
The sardy party needs to end! If it's not Holmes get the reflex in there
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Post by drummert5 on Feb 9, 2022 16:53:41 GMT -5
I'd like him to work with Sardy again. The debut album always feel so warm. That era just sounded like magic. Absolutely not. He made three albums with Sardy and they’re all too stompy. His work from Chasing Yesterday forward has felt airy and effortless, and I want to see that vibe continue. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Feb 9, 2022 16:59:01 GMT -5
David Holmes would be great, but I think the most important part of his work is done: he opened Noel's eyes to new ways of working and rose his confidence for writing songs with different structures. If Noel maintains the quality level of 'A Dream...', 'Blue moon rising', 'Flying on the ground' or 'We're on our way now', no producer is needed.
Actually, the idea of CY-level songs with a bit more varied production sounds fantastic to me
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Post by garylineker on Feb 9, 2022 18:50:45 GMT -5
I called it that he would ditch Holmes at a Noel gig on the last tour and i was quickly shot down being told he is definitely sticking with the new direction.
You could see Noel hurting at the reaction to Holy Mountain. The lady does protest too much when he was constantly telling us how 40,000 Brazilians loved it slagging off his lifelong fanbase of Parka Monkeys in the process.
The fact is Noel loves success. Many on here detest Sardy, but Sardy has always equalled success for Noel and he'd have had him back in a heartbeat for Chasing Yesterday if he could. That tells you all you need to know.I'm glad he isn;t going down the direction of going in the studio without songs and working with Holmes if im honest (not that i believe him 100% that that's how it went). I think it's his weakest of the 3 albums, despite still liking it. Chasing Yesterday is still his best collection of solo songs in my opinion.
I don't think the OP should worry too much though, he'll have learned a lot from the Holmes stuff and he'll want to show that evidence of progression in his work still. Please for the love of god no more Blue Moon Risings though. He's actually done that sort of song to death now. A quarter of an idea that sounds a bit different to what he's done before so he barely manages hald decent verses and serves it up in a "best of". Laughable
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Post by quantum on Feb 10, 2022 5:20:10 GMT -5
You could see Noel hurting at the reaction to Holy Mountain. The lady does protest too much when he was constantly telling us how 40,000 Brazilians loved it slagging off his lifelong fanbase of Parka Monkeys in the process. The fact is Noel loves success. Bingo! He's set for money, but he also wants to remain important to as large an audience as possible. Looking at the album sales, he's heading in the wrong direction. The last album was critically acclaimed, but was marmite to his fan base. I'm not so sure he could make another NGHFB or CY based on the last few songs he's released. They were interesting on release, but I haven't gone back to a single one, and that's never happened before... |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 10, 2022 14:11:10 GMT -5
I'm glad he's confirmed David Holmes is still working on new WBTM tracks. I'd like him to work with Sardy again. The debut album always feel so warm. That era just sounded like magic. Please no, Sardy is the worst record producer Noel/Oasis have ever worked with. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 10, 2022 14:53:47 GMT -5
I called it that he would ditch Holmes at a Noel gig on the last tour and i was quickly shot down being told he is definitely sticking with the new direction. You could see Noel hurting at the reaction to Holy Mountain. The lady does protest too much when he was constantly telling us how 40,000 Brazilians loved it slagging off his lifelong fanbase of Parka Monkeys in the process. The fact is Noel loves success. Many on here detest Sardy, but Sardy has always equalled success for Noel and he'd have had him back in a heartbeat for Chasing Yesterday if he could. That tells you all you need to know.I'm glad he isn;t going down the direction of going in the studio without songs and working with Holmes if im honest (not that i believe him 100% that that's how it went). I think it's his weakest of the 3 albums, despite still liking it. Chasing Yesterday is still his best collection of solo songs in my opinion. I don't think the OP should worry too much though, he'll have learned a lot from the Holmes stuff and he'll want to show that evidence of progression in his work still. Please for the love of god no more Blue Moon Risings though. He's actually done that sort of song to death now. A quarter of an idea that sounds a bit different to what he's done before so he barely manages hald decent verses and serves it up in a "best of". Laughable Noel hurt by Holy Mountain? It’s his second best selling and longest in the charts single. Outside of this forum, who was complaining? Numbers speak for themselves. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 10, 2022 14:56:08 GMT -5
I'm glad he's confirmed David Holmes is still working on new WBTM tracks. I'd like him to work with Sardy again. The debut album always feel so warm. That era just sounded like magic. Did I miss something? I remember Noel saying Holmes is working on leftover MOON tracks for himself, not for Noel. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 10, 2022 19:06:22 GMT -5
now that would be good. however, I'm not sure if Noel and Owen are actually in touch anymore? |
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Post by modxxii on Feb 11, 2022 1:21:40 GMT -5
Nigel Godrich.
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Post by rorymcbride on Feb 11, 2022 6:41:29 GMT -5
Damon Albarn if only for the press it would generate
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 11, 2022 11:38:54 GMT -5
I'd still like the next album to be an acoustic one like Howl. I just think it's the one thing that's missing from his career. I'm not sure who the best producer would be for that kind of album, Noel and Gem could probably do it like they did with a lot of demos in the past. The only thing is that the recent acoustic songs Noel has put out have been a bit bland. He could still write uptempo songs and play them acoustically like he did with Rock N Roll Star, Supersonic and Up In The Sky early on with Oasis.
If he doesn't go that way, then I disliked the debut and WBTM for differing reasons so would like someone completely new.
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Post by niftium on Feb 11, 2022 19:34:24 GMT -5
IMO, Noel produces his best stuff by himself. It's just that that infinitesimally small portion of his brain that has self-esteem issues morphs into Mr. Hyde and he's left second guessing his own work and getting down on himself about it. More than anything, I want a proper follow up to CY, not...whatever happened with Holmes.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Feb 11, 2022 20:41:56 GMT -5
Whomever produced the recent tunes, the long song titles last year or so. Brilliant sound. Warm and lush.
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Post by fluff123 on Feb 12, 2022 8:26:40 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 12, 2022 14:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by garylineker on Feb 13, 2022 8:14:22 GMT -5
I called it that he would ditch Holmes at a Noel gig on the last tour and i was quickly shot down being told he is definitely sticking with the new direction. You could see Noel hurting at the reaction to Holy Mountain. The lady does protest too much when he was constantly telling us how 40,000 Brazilians loved it slagging off his lifelong fanbase of Parka Monkeys in the process. The fact is Noel loves success. Many on here detest Sardy, but Sardy has always equalled success for Noel and he'd have had him back in a heartbeat for Chasing Yesterday if he could. That tells you all you need to know.I'm glad he isn;t going down the direction of going in the studio without songs and working with Holmes if im honest (not that i believe him 100% that that's how it went). I think it's his weakest of the 3 albums, despite still liking it. Chasing Yesterday is still his best collection of solo songs in my opinion. I don't think the OP should worry too much though, he'll have learned a lot from the Holmes stuff and he'll want to show that evidence of progression in his work still. Please for the love of god no more Blue Moon Risings though. He's actually done that sort of song to death now. A quarter of an idea that sounds a bit different to what he's done before so he barely manages hald decent verses and serves it up in a "best of". Laughable Noel hurt by Holy Mountain? It’s his second best selling and longest in the charts single. Outside of this forum, who was complaining? Numbers speak for themselves. Are you serious? It was panned. The high selling thing is a massive red herring too. If he was so pumped by the sales figures and didn't care how the fans reacted he'd have carried on doing the next album the same way. He's not. He's reverted back. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2022 9:09:35 GMT -5
Noel hurt by Holy Mountain? It’s his second best selling and longest in the charts single. Outside of this forum, who was complaining? Numbers speak for themselves. Are you serious? It was panned. The high selling thing is a massive red herring too. If he was so pumped by the sales figures and didn't care how the fans reacted he'd have carried on doing the next album the same way. He's not. He's reverted back. He dropped basically an album in 2019 following the same musical desires that ran throughout MOON. We have no idea what songs will be on his next LP. It could be a blend. Pqnned by who? Just dinosaur Oasis fans on this forum that is all. |
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