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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 18, 2023 22:34:42 GMT -5
I had to unfollow Kasabian and Tom on socials. It was just too painful watching both be so desperate. I liked a bunch of Tom’s solo tunes. Serge is too much as the frontman. He’s like a Spinal Tap parody. Blows me away how much I was into this band 2004-2011. Seen them 3 times. They killed it every night. Serge to me is the prime example of why not everyone is cut out to be a great front man, no matter how desperate they are to be. You can take the individual elements of a person and there can be nothing wrong per se. Take Serge, he's a decent looking fella, recognisable, not a bad singer, writes the tunes etc but he just still hasn't got the thing really good frontmen do. You either have it or you don't. There's a good reason he was stood at the side of the stage for 15+ years while a real front man was on stage. Makes one REALLY Appreciate the magic Liam brings. He was born to front a band.
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Post by yogurt on Aug 19, 2023 3:36:07 GMT -5
Serge to me is the prime example of why not everyone is cut out to be a great front man, no matter how desperate they are to be. You can take the individual elements of a person and there can be nothing wrong per se. Take Serge, he's a decent looking fella, recognisable, not a bad singer, writes the tunes etc but he just still hasn't got the thing really good frontmen do. You either have it or you don't. There's a good reason he was stood at the side of the stage for 15+ years while a real front man was on stage. Makes one REALLY Appreciate the magic Liam brings. He was born to front a band. Indeed I guess Liam is a great example of why some people just have that ability to be a great frontman and some don't. If you take Liam and Mick Jagger, there's almost no crossover in terms of how they act on stage, but are great front men. That shows you don't need to do specific things to be that top frontman, there's no rules. You just either have that presence or you don't. Serge tries to give off the energy on stage and put on a show but he's just not it. That's not having a dig at him though. It's not his fault the good frontman knocked his missus about and is out of the band So he's just playing the hand he's dealt and giving it a go. I think he knows if they restarted something under a new name, it's more likely to flounder quickly. Its probably just better to keep the Kasabian name going at this point, in terms of sustaining a career at a decent level. Can't blame them, but I think purely from a band perspective they're a much lesser band now.
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Post by jh on Aug 19, 2023 4:24:06 GMT -5
Makes one REALLY Appreciate the magic Liam brings. He was born to front a band. Indeed I guess Liam is a great example of why some people just have that ability to be a great frontman and some don't. If you take Liam and Mick Jagger, there's almost no crossover in terms of how they act on stage, but are great front men. That shows you don't need to do specific things to be that top frontman, there's no rules. You just either have that presence or you don't. Serge tries to give off the energy on stage and put on a show but he's just not it. That's not having a dig at him though. It's not his fault the good frontman knocked his missus about and is out of the band So he's just playing the hand he's dealt and giving it a go. I think he knows if they restarted something under a new name, it's more likely to flounder quickly. Its probably just better to keep the Kasabian name going at this point, in terms of sustaining a career at a decent level. Can't blame them, but I think purely from a band perspective they're a much lesser band now. Serge doesn't have a strong enough voice or animal presence / karisma. These things you can't buy...hes like shy kid trying hard not to be. Tom now desperate as he is..snd I love his out put and meeting him was a blast...has all these things..but the baggage will always impead his stamp on the future of his music. Buying fans isn't geeat
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Post by tezza198 on Sept 9, 2023 1:06:37 GMT -5
Tom has just said on Patreon that album number 2 is planning to be released around April/May 2024. That’s a quick turn around
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Post by jupi on Sept 9, 2023 12:12:57 GMT -5
Kind seems like rather huge cash grab to me ...starting to seriously loose respect for Tom on this. You've got to get money in from somewhere, haven't you? For what he's offering it sounds very promising - and a lot like Embrace's membership thing. Not that I'm subscriber in either of those. 😄 I prefered PledgeMusic, which was a great idea and had some good projects before going bankrupt. But geez, Tom doesn't look well in that video. He seemed to be in a better place in the first music videos and that's not too long time ago.
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Post by jh on Sept 14, 2023 3:30:19 GMT -5
Tom has just said on Patreon that album number 2 is planning to be released around April/May 2024. That’s a quick turn around His drummer stated that they had shed loads of material at his Brighton gig. Great to hear more. Shame it all seems like a flash in the pan tbh. Decent album came and went.
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Post by yogurt on Sept 15, 2023 6:32:02 GMT -5
Kind seems like rather huge cash grab to me ...starting to seriously loose respect for Tom on this. it’s the kind of thing he should be doing for free to build his following up…and the ”new empire” is so cringe. Feel like he’s being badly advised In all fairness, its probably the way a lot of musicians below a certain level will start operating to make extra money Besides, I think he's pretty much got a captured audience at this point, Its not really going to get much bigger than it is. So now its just about making the most money from it. It's the reality of a musician in 2023 unless you're a real major act, you have to find many different little revenue streams. So I don't think he's being badly advised. I think he's just facing the reality of a musician in 2023 with an album that just about scrapes into the top 20 these days.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 17, 2024 18:14:47 GMT -5
The coordinates seems to point to either Albania(where I saw in google Maps) or Ireland(some tweet said so)
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 20, 2024 19:17:52 GMT -5
This is the end. It can't get worse than this. Song, style, production, video... it's over, Kasabian is done.
This is like watching some random dude making his shitty videos and songs. Without name Kasabian, this video would have like 42 views.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2024 19:25:54 GMT -5
This is the end. It can't get worse than this. Song, style, production, video... it's over, Kasabian is done.
This is like watching some random dude making his shitty videos and songs. Without name Kasabian, this video would have like 42 views.
It sounds like a fan made Tame Impala parody on tik tok. This band died a long long time ago. Even before Tom’s domestic abuse. Just nobody told Serge the party ended 8-9 years ago.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 20, 2024 19:31:06 GMT -5
im my opinion kasabian went downhill after WRPLA and when you analyze it closely they only have one amazing record and thats the debut
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Post by jh on Feb 21, 2024 2:09:19 GMT -5
This is the end. It can't get worse than this. Song, style, production, video... it's over, Kasabian is done.
This is like watching some random dude making his shitty videos and songs. Without name Kasabian, this video would have like 42 views.
It sounds like a fan made Tame Impala parody on tik tok. This band died a long long time ago. Even before Tom’s domestic abuse. Just nobody told Serge the party ended 8-9 years ago. This truly is piss poor..kasabian are no more. This is just SLP with band. Dead horse is being flogged to shit. Hope we get some Tom tunes again soon. Seems like a bit of a slow burner to a flash in the pan...then gone.
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Post by tezza198 on Feb 21, 2024 3:09:11 GMT -5
Yeah Kasabian are done. Their last album was garbage, and this is utter shit. It’s just surge and band making the exact same style as his solo stuff which is also garbage.
Can’t wait for Tom’s second album, which should be around July he said. He’s the only body from that unit making anything worth people’s time. ‘The Reckoning’ was amazing
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Post by rorymcbride on Feb 21, 2024 3:56:30 GMT -5
Kind seems like rather huge cash grab to me ...starting to seriously loose respect for Tom on this. Woooo mama. Papa needs a new bowl of crack.
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Post by Goosey on Feb 21, 2024 7:46:09 GMT -5
Serge and the boys must be laughing at how much dollars they are making from the streams from the Tom crybabies constantly streaming, views, sharing, commenting etc on all their stuff.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 21, 2024 8:19:15 GMT -5
This is the end. It can't get worse than this. Song, style, production, video... it's over, Kasabian is done.
This is like watching some random dude making his shitty videos and songs. Without name Kasabian, this video would have like 42 views.
It's Kasabian's 'Rudebox' moment. Game over.
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Post by jh on Feb 21, 2024 8:58:36 GMT -5
Yeah Kasabian are done. Their last album was garbage, and this is utter shit. It’s just surge and band making the exact same style as his solo stuff which is also garbage. Can’t wait for Tom’s second album, which should be around July he said. He’s the only body from that unit making anything worth people’s time. ‘The Reckoning’ was amazing I didn't know a 2nd album was coming in July! Nice!!!..Still love the Reckoning alot..has stood the test of time IMO more than Liams last album.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Feb 21, 2024 9:40:12 GMT -5
Call me a mad man but imho is a Bangersaurus Rex 🦖
Saw the tracklist, Algorithms is the closer and apparently there will be a single called A Happening (the opener) that has an intro edited out of the tune, only available on the CD and Vinyl version. I hate when bands release the closer as a single, feels like a spoiler.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Feb 21, 2024 12:16:15 GMT -5
Yeah Kasabian are done. Their last album was garbage, and this is utter shit. It’s just surge and band making the exact same style as his solo stuff which is also garbage. Can’t wait for Tom’s second album, which should be around July he said. He’s the only body from that unit making anything worth people’s time. ‘The Reckoning’ was amazing I didn't know a 2nd album was coming in July! Nice!!!..Still love the Reckoning alot..has stood the test of time IMO more than Liams last album. I haven't listened to the Reckoning in a while but it's a good album. I'll need to put it on tonight.
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Post by tezza198 on Feb 21, 2024 16:45:21 GMT -5
Yeah Kasabian are done. Their last album was garbage, and this is utter shit. It’s just surge and band making the exact same style as his solo stuff which is also garbage. Can’t wait for Tom’s second album, which should be around July he said. He’s the only body from that unit making anything worth people’s time. ‘The Reckoning’ was amazing I didn't know a 2nd album was coming in July! Nice!!!..Still love the Reckoning alot..has stood the test of time IMO more than Liams last album. Yeah he said on his Patreon that he’s been working on another album and recording now, but I think it may be slightly later than July but we’ll see. Can’t wait! The only thing has frustrated me with The Reckoning was that some of the best songs were left off it and some not even officially released! Instead released as bonus tracks
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2024 16:57:04 GMT -5
I didn't know a 2nd album was coming in July! Nice!!!..Still love the Reckoning alot..has stood the test of time IMO more than Liams last album. Yeah he said on his Patreon that he’s been working on another album and recording now, but I think it may be slightly later than July but we’ll see. Can’t wait! The only thing has frustrated me with The Reckoning was that some of the best songs were left off it and some not even officially released! Instead released as bonus tracks Icarus is a good tune.
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Post by tezza198 on Feb 21, 2024 19:24:10 GMT -5
Yeah he said on his Patreon that he’s been working on another album and recording now, but I think it may be slightly later than July but we’ll see. Can’t wait! The only thing has frustrated me with The Reckoning was that some of the best songs were left off it and some not even officially released! Instead released as bonus tracks Icarus is a good tune. ‘Don’t Give In’ and ‘The Reckoning’ are my favourite
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Post by jh on Feb 22, 2024 7:20:10 GMT -5
Yeah he said on his Patreon that he’s been working on another album and recording now, but I think it may be slightly later than July but we’ll see. Can’t wait! The only thing has frustrated me with The Reckoning was that some of the best songs were left off it and some not even officially released! Instead released as bonus tracks Icarus is a good tune. Out of this World is a corker too..at least the bonus material is great standard also.
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Post by jh on Feb 22, 2024 7:21:20 GMT -5
‘Don’t Give In’ and ‘The Reckoning’ are my favourite [br Don't Give In is a realshow stopper and obviously a very huge reflection on how Tom feels.
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Post by Jago88 on Feb 22, 2024 9:46:57 GMT -5
This is the end. It can't get worse than this. Song, style, production, video... it's over, Kasabian is done.
This is like watching some random dude making his shitty videos and songs. Without name Kasabian, this video would have like 42 views.
It's Kasabian's 'Rudebox' moment. Game over. yikes
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