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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 20, 2022 17:04:44 GMT -5
Liam refusing to participate in the Oasis Knebworth film (except for a sentence at the end) probably did not help with this. Insulting Noel's wife, texting threatening messages to his daughter, constantly mocking Noel and his music and the attacks on As It Was probably did not help either.
The truth is Liam has built his solo career on the Oasis legacy of the 90s: the albums try to imitate that sound and his gigs are great because they are the closer you can get to an Oasis gig in the golden years. But Noel wrote every melody, lyric and arrangement of those years (well, he also stole one or five, but you know: genius steals). I really don't know what Liam or anyone else was expecting.I would certainly would not let anyone use my songs to film a documentary attacking me
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 20, 2022 19:33:31 GMT -5
Liam refusing to participate in the Oasis Knebworth film (except for a sentence at the end) probably did not help with this. Insulting Noel's wife, texting threatening messages to his daughter, constantly mocking Noel and his music and the attacks on As It Was probably did not help either. The truth is Liam has built his solo career on the Oasis legacy of the 90s: the albums try to imitate that sound and his gigs are great because they are the closer you can get to an Oasis gig in the golden years. But Noel wrote every melody, lyric and arrangement of those years (well, he also stole one or five, but you know: genius steals). I really don't know what Liam or anyone else was expecting.I would certainly would not let anyone use my songs to film a documentary attacking me As if the world was born in 2009. Really, on reflection its not that bigger deal. If I wan't to go and see a gig or buy an album by a Gallagher I know where my money is going. |
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Post by frogerz on Oct 21, 2022 3:45:20 GMT -5
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Post by garylineker on Oct 21, 2022 3:59:18 GMT -5
I get the feeling with the offical Oasis page that they've come to an agreement to both promote their own stuff via that. After all Liam does own half the Oasis name. |
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Post by garylineker on Oct 21, 2022 4:01:15 GMT -5
Liam refusing to participate in the Oasis Knebworth film (except for a sentence at the end) probably did not help with this. Insulting Noel's wife, texting threatening messages to his daughter, constantly mocking Noel and his music and the attacks on As It Was probably did not help either. The truth is Liam has built his solo career on the Oasis legacy of the 90s: the albums try to imitate that sound and his gigs are great because they are the closer you can get to an Oasis gig in the golden years. But Noel wrote every melody, lyric and arrangement of those years (well, he also stole one or five, but you know: genius steals). I really don't know what Liam or anyone else was expecting.I would certainly would not let anyone use my songs to film a documentary attacking me Do you think Noel needs to take any responsibility for belittling Liam for basically the whole of Oasis? I think Liam's participation in the Knebworth Oasis film was a reaction to Noel being so bitter about his useage of Oasis songs in the past. Then as soon as Noel wants to make money off it, they're asking for Liam to come along again. Like Liam said, for someone who seems to want to distance himself from Oasis every interview, he does a good job of milking it when he wants to. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Oct 21, 2022 5:04:20 GMT -5
Liam refusing to participate in the Oasis Knebworth film (except for a sentence at the end) probably did not help with this. Insulting Noel's wife, texting threatening messages to his daughter, constantly mocking Noel and his music and the attacks on As It Was probably did not help either. The truth is Liam has built his solo career on the Oasis legacy of the 90s: the albums try to imitate that sound and his gigs are great because they are the closer you can get to an Oasis gig in the golden years. But Noel wrote every melody, lyric and arrangement of those years (well, he also stole one or five, but you know: genius steals). I really don't know what Liam or anyone else was expecting.I would certainly would not let anyone use my songs to film a documentary attacking me I've already written this before. Liam's attitude towards Noel is a "reaction" not the "cause" -Noel since the early years of Oasis has tried to exploit Liam's voice drops to take over the scene and make himself known as a "frontman". In the Supersonic docufilm it is clearly shown how in some moments of Oasis's career Liam was completely sidelined, even though he enjoyed good vocal health. With a self-centered Noel eager to be the protagonist to sing some songs recorded and always sung previously by Liam. -Noel in interviews at the time of Oasis has always labeled Liam as an idiot and himself as a genius -He blamed Liam for the end of Oasis. Trying cunningly to divert all the "old" Oasis audience in the direction of High Flying Birds -Liam consequently reacted nervously after so many years of slander I wonder how some of you blame Liam for his outbursts of Noel. He did very well. He could not continue to be treated like this by his brother. Today Noel continues to be the bastard. Encouraged by Liam's "annoying" solo success. The result is that in reality the victim is Liam and the executioner is Noel. Even though Noel is good at pretending he's been teased ... So Liam does very well to react on social media against him. Noel's bullying of Liam must stop! |
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Post by martha on Oct 21, 2022 5:07:35 GMT -5
Liam refusing to participate in the Oasis Knebworth film (except for a sentence at the end) probably did not help with this. Insulting Noel's wife, texting threatening messages to his daughter, constantly mocking Noel and his music and the attacks on As It Was probably did not help either. The truth is Liam has built his solo career on the Oasis legacy of the 90s: the albums try to imitate that sound and his gigs are great because they are the closer you can get to an Oasis gig in the golden years. But Noel wrote every melody, lyric and arrangement of those years (well, he also stole one or five, but you know: genius steals). I really don't know what Liam or anyone else was expecting.I would certainly would not let anyone use my songs to film a documentary attacking me Do you think Noel needs to take any responsibility for belittling Liam for basically the whole of Oasis? I think Liam's participation in the Knebworth Oasis film was a reaction to Noel being so bitter about his useage of Oasis songs in the past. Then as soon as Noel wants to make money off it, they're asking for Liam to come along again. Like Liam said, for someone who seems to want to distance himself from Oasis every interview, he does a good job of milking it when he wants to. Also! Liam was very willing and did a lot to promote Supersonic and was not compensated at all for it (and in my humble opinion, he didn't care about the money, he cared about acknowledgement of some kind), so he had very little reason to want to take part in it, even if he did own half the production company. He was happy for the fans and was so lovely about it on twitter, but what else was there for him there? Salt in the wound, not much else, especially with Noel gushing about him being the best part of the whole thing and doing shit like this behind the scenes. |
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Post by jh on Oct 21, 2022 7:56:39 GMT -5
People hit the nail on the head about Noel's treatment of Liam throughout Oasis. Liam never liked doing interviews and it was always left to Noel to completely belittle him and goad him. It's why i'll always sympathise with how Liam reacted towards Noel. Liam did actually play up to the kind of less intelligent, less articulate thing because it was part of the Liam Gallagher persona but when he drops that character a bit you can see how intelligent and switched on he really is. You see a lot of it during As You Were, less so now he can slip back into being "Liam". I agree also that the Taylor Hawkins thing will be very much rooted in what he said about Noel before his death and what Noel has been like towards the Foo Fighters in general. Sounds ridiculous to say given it's a tribute to a much loved person but Noel is every bit capable of being that petty. Without question. Anyone who has sided with Liam in anyway since the split has been treated like this by Noel. I believe he even stopped speaking to Chris Martin after the Manchester Concert. What is perhaps a bit strange is how much more complimentary Noel has been towards Liam's success in recent months. He has been so much more laid back and seemingly happy in general, and it seemed like he had finally become a bit humble about Liam's solo stuff. I think we can see that's all just a PR front because he realised how damaging his bitterness was looking to everyone in the fanbase. He moaned that Liam had taken away his universal love from the Oasis fanbase on Twitter, but it was very much Noel's own making. Also very hypocritical to moan about your brother twisting a narrative to make you look worse. You've been doing that to Liam for 30 years Noel. It just looks incredibly sour and pathetic on Noels part. I have been a loyal fan of both ..but over the last year Noel has by his own action - become a rather pathetic looking individual with regards the whole...dont you dare use an oasis song Liam |
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Post by joladella on Oct 21, 2022 8:24:38 GMT -5
Bought myself a ticket to watch it in the cinema.  I could get used to Gallagheristic movies once a year!
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Post by thomuk2006 on Oct 21, 2022 10:12:14 GMT -5
Got my Tickets!
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Post by raiderfan7 on Oct 21, 2022 10:43:00 GMT -5
People hit the nail on the head about Noel's treatment of Liam throughout Oasis. Liam never liked doing interviews and it was always left to Noel to completely belittle him and goad him. It's why i'll always sympathise with how Liam reacted towards Noel. Liam did actually play up to the kind of less intelligent, less articulate thing because it was part of the Liam Gallagher persona but when he drops that character a bit you can see how intelligent and switched on he really is. You see a lot of it during As You Were, less so now he can slip back into being "Liam". I agree also that the Taylor Hawkins thing will be very much rooted in what he said about Noel before his death and what Noel has been like towards the Foo Fighters in general. Sounds ridiculous to say given it's a tribute to a much loved person but Noel is every bit capable of being that petty. Without question. Anyone who has sided with Liam in anyway since the split has been treated like this by Noel. I believe he even stopped speaking to Chris Martin after the Manchester Concert. What is perhaps a bit strange is how much more complimentary Noel has been towards Liam's success in recent months. He has been so much more laid back and seemingly happy in general, and it seemed like he had finally become a bit humble about Liam's solo stuff. I think we can see that's all just a PR front because he realised how damaging his bitterness was looking to everyone in the fanbase. He moaned that Liam had taken away his universal love from the Oasis fanbase on Twitter, but it was very much Noel's own making. Also very hypocritical to moan about your brother twisting a narrative to make you look worse. You've been doing that to Liam for 30 years Noel. Hit the nail on the head here. Also, per Molly, both Noel and Sara completely cut off all communication with her once she reconciled with Liam. Noel really is a sad, pathetic ‘man’ |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 21, 2022 12:42:11 GMT -5
On a different note, I really love the trailer for the film it looks really good.
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 21, 2022 12:46:49 GMT -5
On a different note, I really love the trailer for the film it looks really good. Agreed! |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 21, 2022 12:50:43 GMT -5
On a different note, I really love the trailer for the film it looks really good. Agreed! I've only watched it a couple of times so far but I can't wait to see the film in full. |
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Post by Mario on Oct 21, 2022 13:57:44 GMT -5
With all due respect to the fans they interviewed for this Knebworth Doc....I just wanna hear the songs!
I don't wanna re-hash the pandemic and re-opening of society. I'm sure that will be meaningful to many fans and people, but it felt like filler in last year's Knebworth Doc, and it feels like it's filler in this year's Kebworth doc. Just my feelings on it.
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Post by Rolo on Oct 21, 2022 16:11:02 GMT -5
Sounds like Gem speaking in the trailer at one point but can't be?
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Post by theunderclass on Oct 21, 2022 16:47:48 GMT -5
Got my tickets for Wellington, New Zealand! It’s in a pretty small theatre, but really looking forward to it. Will be great to see some of the background of the gigs, those parts were part of the highlight of the Oasis Knebworth movie for me … it’s great seeing the songs, but knowing what it means to that huge crowd makes it even better. My brother and sister who usually tag along to Oasis themed movies with me are coming, and even my 70yo Mum said she wanted to go to this one!  |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 21, 2022 19:30:30 GMT -5
I wonder if they'll use all of Liam's songs which he performed at Knebworth in the film since there's no Oasis songs or if they'll use so many.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Oct 21, 2022 20:24:32 GMT -5
Noel should have just taken the money. I'll still see it but... C'mon Noel.
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Post by asdfgjhkl19 on Oct 22, 2022 7:28:03 GMT -5
they're not noel's songs, they're oasis songs, and by witholding them noel is basically saying that nobody besides him can profit from the oasis legacy that liam helped create. liam made noel millions and helped make those songs as popular as they were. noel is acting like oasis was all him. i can understand not letting them in as it was, but this is just stupid (unless noel saw the doc and liam slags him off in it, but i doubt it)
having said that, we actually dont know what happened behind the scenes. maybe noel was willing to let them use the songs but they couldnt agree on money, or something. we only have liam's side. maybe noel wanted a bigger cut than they were willing to offer. he might be getting unfairly slagged off this time lol. it's a liam solo release but noel might have seen it more as a half oasis release and wanted to be compensated fairly
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 22, 2022 12:37:06 GMT -5
they're not noel's songs, they're oasis songs, and by witholding them noel is basically saying that nobody besides him can profit from the oasis legacy that liam helped create. liam made noel millions and helped make those songs as popular as they were. noel is acting like oasis was all him. i can understand not letting them in as it was, but this is just stupid (unless noel saw the doc and liam slags him off in it, but i doubt it) having said that, we actually dont know what happened behind the scenes. maybe noel was willing to let them use the songs but they couldnt agree on money, or something. we only have liam's side. maybe noel wanted a bigger cut than they were willing to offer. he might be getting unfairly slagged off this time lol. it's a liam solo release but noel might have seen it more as a half oasis release and wanted to be compensated fairly Well, if it was the for the fact that Noel wanted more money than Liam and his management etc were offering then that's just greed by Noel as he doesn't need the money anyway. |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Oct 23, 2022 12:28:19 GMT -5
What a waste of time to write, recall or even just think about over and over again the name of a dead man. Try to stay healthy, safe and alive for 30 more years and we'll get all this forbidden material.
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 23, 2022 14:20:16 GMT -5
Shame they’re following the oasis knebworth doc format. I didn’t really like the whole fan angle thing. Would have much preferred it to be centred around liam and his solo success, showing how it started out in 2017 to where he is now, and Knebworth being a great milestone in his solo career.
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Post by tezza198 on Oct 23, 2022 15:34:23 GMT -5
Shame they’re following the oasis knebworth doc format. I didn’t really like the whole fan angle thing. Would have much preferred it to be centred around liam and his solo success, showing how it started out in 2017 to where he is now, and Knebworth being a great milestone in his solo career. I’d have to agree with this. I wish it was exactly like this |
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Post by Sadie on Oct 23, 2022 20:03:57 GMT -5
What a waste of time to write, recall or even just think about over and over again the name of a dead man. Try to stay healthy, safe and alive for 30 more years and we'll get all this forbidden material. ? |
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