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Post by Rolo on Oct 19, 2022 2:23:10 GMT -5
Pathetic.
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Post by welshylad on Oct 19, 2022 2:42:00 GMT -5
It is a bit stupid really isn't it
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 19, 2022 3:07:01 GMT -5
Man is a total bellend. Fuck him.
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Post by bossbruce on Oct 19, 2022 3:33:19 GMT -5
what a dick
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Post by quantum on Oct 19, 2022 3:33:53 GMT -5
And he wished him well in his last interview... :-(
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Post by Heynow2005 on Oct 19, 2022 3:38:14 GMT -5
I don't understand the laws. So he can release oasis tunes on live albums (audio) but Noel can block videos?
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Oct 19, 2022 4:52:14 GMT -5
Noel is disgusting with these bans!
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Post by forestfan on Oct 19, 2022 5:22:08 GMT -5
Maybe liam will find creative ways to sneak in the Peak of the show
Roll it over Full choir
I have lost all interest since it’s just liam solo songs
As knebworth was like what 11 oasis songs ?
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Post by morning_rain on Oct 19, 2022 5:42:49 GMT -5
What a stupid move.
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Post by theunderclass on Oct 19, 2022 6:00:10 GMT -5
What an absolute joke, this really discourages me from buying/listening/going to Noel concerts in future too, I gotta say. The man is a prat.
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Post by noeloliam on Oct 19, 2022 6:24:37 GMT -5
Someone abuses your family publicly, threatens your kids. You don't want your songs to promote his product, do you.
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 19, 2022 6:47:17 GMT -5
We waited 26 years for the 96 video.
I guess we’ll get the full 22 video some time.
Doc and (presumed?) full live album will have to do for now!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 19, 2022 7:05:32 GMT -5
Liam should release the doc and then leak the rest.
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Post by frogerz on Oct 19, 2022 7:12:51 GMT -5
Weird how Noel doesn't block the video of Liam singing them with Oasis at Knebworth but does when he doesn't get any money from it..
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Oct 19, 2022 7:14:11 GMT -5
Aside from their feud, I can sort of understand why Noel wouldn’t want them in the documentary. As it’s recent events like Knebworth that are making Oasis seem like it was just about Liam, which frankly isn’t true. However, by not allowing them to be included in something like a gig video, Noel does come across a tad bitter to me.
Obviously the poster had “music by Liam Gallagher”, in hindsight maybe that was a warning. Still I’m surprised it wasn’t specified earlier.
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Post by eyeflying on Oct 19, 2022 7:27:58 GMT -5
Well... As a Liam fan, I find it sad that I won't be able to hear the Oasis songs he sang perfectly at Knebworth (especially for people, like me, who didn't have the chance to attend the real concert). It's also sad because he'll probably get fewer entries without the Oasis songs.
But, as a Noel fan too, I can understand his decision. He never blocked the rights to Liam's live albums because on a live album Liam just sings, whereas in the documentary there will surely be footage of Liam talking and Liam with his mother in the helicopter. And, knowing Liam, there's a very good chance that at best he'll recall that he's playing in Knebworth and not Noel. At worst, there will probably be some insults as well. That's why Noel won't give Liam the rights. He had said in 2019 that he didn't want his music used in a film where there might be insults to him and his wife. It's sad, selfish and whatever else you want but it's really understandable (at least to me).
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Post by alanjwhite on Oct 19, 2022 7:36:16 GMT -5
What did Liam expect? I am sure going on social media and again bashing his brother is really going to make Noel want to let him use the songs.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 19, 2022 7:47:47 GMT -5
Aside from their feud, I can sort of understand why Noel wouldn’t want them in the documentary. As it’s recent events like Knebworth that are making Oasis seem like it was just about Liam, which frankly isn’t true. However, by not allowing them to be included in something like a gig video, Noel does come across a tad bitter to me. Obviously the poster had “music by Liam Gallagher”, in hindsight maybe that was a warning. Still I’m surprised it wasn’t specified earlier. Does anyone really think Oasis was just about Liam? He might be more popular right now but the fact that the reunion would be one of the most sought after in music shows that people don't think Oasis was just about him.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 19, 2022 7:49:13 GMT -5
Well... As a Liam fan, I find it sad that I won't be able to hear the Oasis songs he sang perfectly at Knebworth (especially for people, like me, who didn't have the chance to attend the real concert). It's also sad because he'll probably get fewer entries without the Oasis songs. But, as a Noel fan too, I can understand his decision. He never blocked the rights to Liam's live albums because on a live album Liam just sings, whereas in the documentary there will surely be footage of Liam talking and Liam with his mother in the helicopter. And, knowing Liam, there's a very good chance that at best he'll recall that he's playing in Knebworth and not Noel. At worst, there will probably be some insults as well. That's why Noel won't give Liam the rights. He had said in 2019 that he didn't want his music used in a film where there might be insults to him and his wife. It's sad, selfish and whatever else you want but it's really understandable (at least to me). Pretty big leap to assume they'll be Noel insults in the film. Whatever Liam might think I assume Debbie is smarter than that.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 19, 2022 7:54:48 GMT -5
Wretched egomaniac
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Post by alanjwhite on Oct 19, 2022 8:00:15 GMT -5
How so? Noel is the artist. He’s the one that created these songs, come up with the words, music and melodies. He gets to control how they are used.
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 19, 2022 8:01:00 GMT -5
I’m obsessed with two bands: Oasis and Pink Floyd.
Every single day I have to read Noel/Liam or Waters/Gilmour troubles!
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Post by eyeflying on Oct 19, 2022 8:08:12 GMT -5
Well... As a Liam fan, I find it sad that I won't be able to hear the Oasis songs he sang perfectly at Knebworth (especially for people, like me, who didn't have the chance to attend the real concert). It's also sad because he'll probably get fewer entries without the Oasis songs. But, as a Noel fan too, I can understand his decision. He never blocked the rights to Liam's live albums because on a live album Liam just sings, whereas in the documentary there will surely be footage of Liam talking and Liam with his mother in the helicopter. And, knowing Liam, there's a very good chance that at best he'll recall that he's playing in Knebworth and not Noel. At worst, there will probably be some insults as well. That's why Noel won't give Liam the rights. He had said in 2019 that he didn't want his music used in a film where there might be insults to him and his wife. It's sad, selfish and whatever else you want but it's really understandable (at least to me). Pretty big leap to assume they'll be Noel insults in the film. Whatever Liam might think I assume Debbie is smarter than that. Well, Noel said this in an interview in 2019 where he was talking about the documentary "As it was" for which he had also refused the rights and in which there were indeed a lot of passages where Liam and his relatives criticised Noel and sometimes insulted him. As for the next Knebworth documentary, maybe you're right and Liam will be much calmer, more measured and intelligent. I hope so. But it's still possible that there will be negative things about Noel, it's not unlikely at all. Obviously, Noel is not innocent and some of Liam's insults and criticisms of him are sometimes justified. And Noel has said as much. I'm just saying that if I put myself in Noel's shoes for two seconds, I can understand why he wouldn't want his music to be used in a documentary where it's possible that he could be talked about very badly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 8:21:22 GMT -5
Well... As a Liam fan, I find it sad that I won't be able to hear the Oasis songs he sang perfectly at Knebworth (especially for people, like me, who didn't have the chance to attend the real concert). It's also sad because he'll probably get fewer entries without the Oasis songs. But, as a Noel fan too, I can understand his decision. He never blocked the rights to Liam's live albums because on a live album Liam just sings, whereas in the documentary there will surely be footage of Liam talking and Liam with his mother in the helicopter. And, knowing Liam, there's a very good chance that at best he'll recall that he's playing in Knebworth and not Noel. At worst, there will probably be some insults as well. That's why Noel won't give Liam the rights. He had said in 2019 that he didn't want his music used in a film where there might be insults to him and his wife. It's sad, selfish and whatever else you want but it's really understandable (at least to me). I don't think Noel can block live albums.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 19, 2022 8:31:49 GMT -5
How so? Noel is the artist. He’s the one that created these songs, come up with the words, music and melodies. He gets to control how they are used. You asked how so — I believe someone that utilizes their energy out of spite to control another (especially when it does not negatively impact them) meets the following definitions for the words you questioned. Wretched: (of a person) in a very unhappy or unfortunate state. Egomaniac: a person who is obsessively egotistical or self-centered. The songs were released by Oasis, not Noel Gallagher. Liam was in that band and his voice/persona/look, is, at the very least, partly responsible for their success. I also think it’s trivial for Noel to use the excuse that he’s doing these things because Liam said bad things about his family; Noel tried to control the narrative to make Liam look like an unapproachable idiot in the press for most of their career and blamed the breakup solely on Liam (all of which negatively impacted the perception of LG), when hindsight tells us he was angling for the solo career for a long time. In saying all of that, I think blocking songs from a tribute concert of a dead guy is more of an indictment of his character than blocking them for LG’s releases, but it’s all in the same lane of c*ntiness.
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