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Post by Dominic on Nov 6, 2005 16:12:19 GMT -5
pires, bergkamp, ljungberg, cole, campbell, fabregas, helb, van persie, lauren
one man team? fuck off
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Post by DixonHill on Nov 6, 2005 16:13:27 GMT -5
fuck u.
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Post by Dominic on Nov 6, 2005 16:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by DixonHill on Nov 6, 2005 16:18:20 GMT -5
fuck off.
fuck off and listen to WTSMG.
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 6, 2005 16:26:12 GMT -5
Well it isn't as ridiculous as arguing over that one man team Arsenal winning the league this season. arsenal more than likely won't win it.... not unless chelsea completely crumble and we'd need Henry fit and in form for, oh i don't know, every single game we play!! but don't tell me wigan have a better chance! I never said wigan have a better chance, just that you shouldn't be writing them off! pires, bergkamp, ljungberg, cole, campbell, fabregas, helb, van persie, lauren one man team? fuck off pires - past it bergkamp - past it ljungberg - average cole- very overrated campbell - past it fabregas - nowt special helb - havent seen nothing great from him van persie - nowt special lauren - average
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Post by Dominic on Nov 6, 2005 16:31:42 GMT -5
arsenal more than likely won't win it.... not unless chelsea completely crumble and we'd need Henry fit and in form for, oh i don't know, every single game we play!! but don't tell me wigan have a better chance! I never said wigan have a better chance, just that you shouldn't be writing them off! pires, bergkamp, ljungberg, cole, campbell, fabregas, helb, van persie, lauren one man team? fuck off pires - past it bergkamp - past it ljungberg - average cole- very overrated campbell - past it fabregas - nowt special helb - havent seen nothing great from him van persie - nowt special lauren - average are you serious?
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 6, 2005 16:43:35 GMT -5
Very ;D You need another quality centre back & a proper replacement for Paddy V. imo.
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Post by Dominic on Nov 6, 2005 16:54:16 GMT -5
sendros will be quality, he needs to play more along side sol for experince
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2005 19:11:06 GMT -5
FeckARSE you didnt just fuckin say that
this means war you twat:
I WAS BORN IN LONDON, ENGLAND and moved to America in 1998....I HAVE SUPPORTED ARSENAL SINCE 1995 (since i was 8yrs old)
I AM A BRITISH AND US CITIZEN (Dual Citizenship), i visit all my friends in london once a year during the summer...i follow Arsenal on Fox Soccer Channel, PayPerView, i have signed up for the highlights on the arsenal website, i own EVERY JERSEY since 1998, i have all the end of season dvds, fuck i even have an arsenal duvet cover, i play football (soccer, pick whichever applies to you) for my school and next year i will play in University, i argue alot with my best friend over Chelsea bc hes a Chelsea supporter...i watch other prem games too as i did today
so all in all, shut the fuck up and stop assuming shit...
and, if you know anything about probability: WIGAN DO INDEED HAVE AN EQUAL CHANCE OF WINNING THE LEAGUE THAN THE LIKE OF ARSENAL, UTD et al.
I don't think they will (for the last effin time) but, for the love of god, they are second...what if they do take points off the "big teams"...again, almost did so vs. Chelsea...that's what makes the Prem exciting, every match is different and unpredictable
there are races going on all the time in the Prem: -Title Race -CL Race -Uefa Cup spots -Relegation Battle
where do Wigan fall? we don't know...but i beilieve CL/Uefa..they will def surivive considering 40pts ensures safety normally, they have 25pts already
and, FeckArse, lets do a little bit more math
Wigan have 25 points after 11 games, on this form,
11 x 3.45 = 38 games 25 x 3.45 = 86 points (roughly)
so if Wigan keep this up, then sure they can win the league...but i too doubt that they will...but you cant say for sure until they start dropping points
WINNER: Live4evr
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Post by MG on Nov 6, 2005 20:05:31 GMT -5
GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We've got to keep up this form, espcially the 1st half preformance and not get back to the way we were playing the last couple of weeks. It is our first good result in a long time and have to build on it.
+ I'd rather see Wigan win the league this season than United.
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Post by Moorish on Nov 7, 2005 7:34:53 GMT -5
As a gooner I obviously wanted Man Utd to win this, anything that makes more of a race of the Premiership can only be a good thing. However as soon as the game was over I had a distinct feeling of self-loathing for wanting Utd to win! At the end of the day I'm glad they won, but don't kid yourselves - SPENT FORCE.
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Post by feckarse on Nov 7, 2005 15:56:23 GMT -5
my point is that it is not in the slightest way conceivable for Wigan to continue their form throughout the season. [just talk to any Charlton fan, they'll tell you a thing or two about early season form for a team punching above its weight]
Wigan, while having been extremely impressive (and long may it continue) are going to struggle at stages. Notably their next run of 5 games consist of Arsenal, Tottenham, Man U, Liverpool & Chelsea.
Compare this to the run they've had in which they've only been facing out of form teams (bar Bolton) - the likes of WBA, Sunderland, Everton, Portsmouth, Fulham...etc. It's impressive, but they can't and won't keep this up.
My point, I reiterate, is simply that Wigan will not win the league. And you're arguing with me over this. I've never said they don't have an outside chance of a CL spot (i'd be very surprised if they did mind you), and I know you're not saying that they will win the league. But you're considering them as realistic contenders.
They don't have the quality of players to either a) maintain their form consistently over the next 27 games or b) get enough results off the big teams. Which is what you need to be champions.
Arsenal and Man United certainly face an uphill battle to win the league, BUT don't come out with the crap that Wigan have the same chance of winning as they do. Thats dumb bullshit.
Come May, I guarantee, guarantee (how many times can i use the one word in the same post??), that Wigan will not hold the Premiership Trophy aloft.
I'm glad they're doing well. But if you know anything about anything, you'll know they have no chance whatsoever of winning the league.
For fucks sake, i'm not posting on this argument anymore, its pissing me off
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 7, 2005 17:04:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying Wigan will be champions in May, but it is fucking idiotic to say that a team that is second at the moment doesn't have the same chance as a team that is lying in 4th place!!!!!!!! And if they didn't have the quality Wigan wouldn't be 2nd right now. To write Wigan off (again most probably) is dumb bullshit. And considering the amount of money Whelan has for transfers, and the reputation gained I think a few more people will be interested in coming to Wigan come January to ply their trade. ...We've got our own Rodney Marsh over here!! so....bye, you're full of shit.
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Post by MG on Nov 7, 2005 17:10:18 GMT -5
I have seen the future!!
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 7, 2005 17:13:24 GMT -5
Nice one ;D
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Post by Bizzle on Nov 7, 2005 17:16:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying Wigan will be champions in May, but it is fucking idiotic to say that a team that is second at the moment doesn't have the same chance as a team that is lying in 4th place!!!!!!!! And if they didn't have the quality Wigan wouldn't be 2nd right now. To write Wigan off (again most probably) is dumb bullshit. And considering the amount of money Whelan has for transfers, and the reputation gained I think a few more people will be interested in coming to Wigan come January to ply their trade. ...We've got our own Rodney Marsh over here!! so....bye, you're full of shit.
We'll see what happens now that Wigan have Arsenal Chelsea Man Utd Liverpool Spurs all in a row. Thats the real test.
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 7, 2005 17:17:14 GMT -5
I can't wait till the Chelsea match. Fucking rip off though. About £50 for a ticket!
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Post by Bizzle on Nov 7, 2005 17:19:09 GMT -5
Thats Chelsea for you. No wonder their attendences are so low.
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Post by MG on Nov 7, 2005 16:38:27 GMT -5
I can't wait till the Chelsea match. Fucking rip off though. About £50 for a ticket! MY MATE (A CHELSEA FAN) IS GOING OVER FOR THAT
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Post by tezza202 on Nov 7, 2005 16:46:51 GMT -5
Coming over here from Ireland for £50 ? Corr! Not bad. Unbelievable that a chelsea ticket is the same price..
But you think Chelsea is bad, Gillingham who are in League 1 (the bottom of it), their tickets are about £20! And their shirts are £40 for a lil kid! Madness..
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Post by feckarse on May 7, 2006 12:05:34 GMT -5
omfg the arrogance doesnt stop first off, just cos Wigan came up doesnt automatically mean they are crap...they are second for a reason...will that last? probably not...but it's foolish to laugh at them in the form they are in... Arsenal and Utd have a game in hand, so at best the 2 teams are 8 and 7 pts respectivly out of first...i'll take that over the 14pts (11 if win the game in hand) we were behind last weekend... Also, Chelsea are REALLY struggling...it really depends how they respond...Arsenal play Chelsea in December (the 18th...i begin Winter Break then)...if we win that, the gap could be very very small.... So i don't understand how you can still be so arrogant in the view that Chelsea will win... the race really is on for everyone (including Wigan) just look how close everyone is (bar chelsea, but that gap is being closed down too...) i know one thing tho...the Prem just became a lot more exciting with that result today... ***************** and, come May if chelsea are top, then you can say i'm wrong...but m8, we're in NOVEMBER!! 11-12 games in...ffs its not even close to being over ***************** sorry, just don't come out with the crap that wigan have any chance of challenging for the title come may, that fuckin horse-shit and you know it It's May and you were wrong mate. And Wigan never had a chance of winning the league. I'm not saying Wigan will be champions in May, but it is fucking idiotic to say that a team that is second at the moment doesn't have the same chance as a team that is lying in 4th place!!!!!!!! And if they didn't have the quality Wigan wouldn't be 2nd right now. To write Wigan off (again most probably) is dumb bullshit. And considering the amount of money Whelan has for transfers, and the reputation gained I think a few more people will be interested in coming to Wigan come January to ply their trade. ...We've got our own Rodney Marsh over here!! so....bye, you're full of shit. After this post, Wigan went on to lose their next 5 games (certainly lost 4 of them anyway) and were never contenders for the league. They never had a chance of being league champions. That was my point. I was right.
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Post by tezza202 on May 7, 2006 12:15:09 GMT -5
I never said that they would win the league, (its even quoted in the fucking post you quoted) I said that they had a chance, like everyone at the start of the season. Granted it may have been a very very slim chance and not very realistic but its still a chance. I was right. Never had a chance? A bit like Arsenal then I guess.
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Post by feckarse on May 7, 2006 12:16:23 GMT -5
I never said that they would win the league, (its even quoted in the fucking post you quoted) I said that they had a chance, like everyone at the start of the season. Granted it may have been a very very slim chance and not very realistic but its still a chance. I was right. Never had a chance? A bit like Arsenal then I guess. FFS, I know you never said they'd probably win the league. But you said they had a chance My point was they never had a chance. (And I don't accept an argument claiming any distant remote possibility as "a chance", cos if you do that, then Sunderland had a chance until christmas)
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Post by tezza202 on May 7, 2006 12:19:18 GMT -5
Fucking hell.
Everyone has a chance to win the league. Whether it be a very good chance or a very slim chance.
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Post by feckarse on May 7, 2006 12:20:13 GMT -5
Fucking hell. Everyone has a chance to win the league. Whether it be a very good chance or a very slim chance. i refer to the EDIT in my above post
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