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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 1, 2021 10:14:52 GMT -5
the only fact I'm Outta Time didn't chart well are those ludicrous "la la la la laaaa"s at the start of the tune.
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Post by glider on Jun 1, 2021 10:37:34 GMT -5
Including B-sides....:' GO LET IT OUT'. Definitely 'Importance...' or ' I´m Outta Time' are good songs but...considering a main song follow by b-sides...GO LET IT OUT was great. The first time a hear 'Let's All Make Believe' I felt the same as when I heard The Masterplan, or Acquiesce, or Underneath The Sky...the moment you say...oh boy, this is the band of my life. After that...never felt the same before with any Oasis song. If it’s the single as a package then I’d go with Stop Crying Your Heart Out as the last great one. SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two six on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 10:39:29 GMT -5
If it’s the single as a package then I’d go with Stop Crying Your Heart Out as the last great one. SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. TIOBI was also number 1 in Italy iirc.
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Post by morning_rain on Jun 1, 2021 10:46:54 GMT -5
SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. TIOBI was also number 1 in Italy iirc. It was huge in Spain, and Lyla too. Not as big as Wonderwall but at the same level as SCYHO.
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Post by dazed on Jun 1, 2021 10:48:41 GMT -5
I really liked Outta time and the other singles from the last album tbf
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Post by alanjwhite on Jun 1, 2021 10:49:45 GMT -5
If it’s the single as a package then I’d go with Stop Crying Your Heart Out as the last great one. SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two six on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. Lyla got some airplay in the US. I think it was the last Oasis related song to get decent airplay until Noel’s “If I had a Gun.”
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Post by glider on Jun 1, 2021 10:53:55 GMT -5
SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two six on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. Lyla got some airplay in the US. I think it was the last Oasis related song to get decent airplay until Noel’s “If I had a Gun.” Yeah, all the latter Oasis singles had some sort of airplay on rock/indie stations over here.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 1, 2021 10:59:15 GMT -5
If it’s the single as a package then I’d go with Stop Crying Your Heart Out as the last great one. SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two six on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. Nearly 149 million streams in Spotify as well.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jun 1, 2021 11:04:45 GMT -5
SCYHO is the only song they released post WTSMG? that's had any scratching on the US/North American scene in terms of cult success in different genres. It's a popular cover tune as well. Believe it hit number two six on the Canadian singles chart. Idle was popular only in the UK, and Shock cracked the Billboard Hot 100 but was really only a hit on rock stations. Lyla got some airplay in the US. I think it was the last Oasis related song to get decent airplay until Noel’s “If I had a Gun.” The Shock of the Lightning was Oasis' most successful single in the US after Don't Go Away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 11:05:07 GMT -5
For me the last really great Oasis single is Go Let It Out, not only because of the great A side but also because of Let's All Make Believe. That's the last single that a great A side and a great B side, like in the glory days.
Stop Crying Your Heart Out is easily the most ubiquitous Oasis related song post 90's, but really I don't rate it highly at all anymore. Way too syrupy and cliche imo, even Liam doesn't save it from being soppy.
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Post by matt on Jun 1, 2021 11:07:36 GMT -5
I know people who aren't Oasis fans who like I'm Outta Time. The fact that it didn't make it into the top 10 doesn't mean it sucks for the same reason that there are people Oasis sucks for despite having had top-rated albums and songs. The reason I'm outta Time didn't make it to the top 10 is because most Oasis fans hated Liam at the time, and didn't care about the song just because it was written by him. They just wanted a Noel solo album ... Noel had tamed them well with his "logbook" ... Christ almighty, that's batshit fandom right there.
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Post by glider on Jun 1, 2021 11:08:40 GMT -5
Most successful: SCYHO Last best song: The Importance of Being Idle Personal favorite: Falling Down
Last best single package: Go Let It Out
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 1, 2021 13:00:14 GMT -5
Stop Crying Your Heart Out and The Importance Of Being Idle are the two best Oasis singles from the 2000s.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 1, 2021 16:17:07 GMT -5
The Importance of Being Idle, although I'm not a massive fan of it. Stop Crying Your Heart Out was the last great song imo.
This thread has reminded me of how poorly managed the DOYS and Beady Eye singles were though.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jun 1, 2021 19:29:04 GMT -5
None of the b sides after Heathen Chemistry were anything to write home about, they just seemed content to put on any old time-filling shite and then remixes and live tracks on after that. The likes of No I Won't Let You Down is an astonishingly poor and half-arsed Lennon pastiche, I know some people like Eyeball Tickler but I just think it's utterly tune-free tripe.
At least Songbird CD single had (just the) one passable, though not outstanding, extra song in (You've Got) The Heart of a Star. The lack of great extra tracks on the EPs really showed, for better or worse, they were running dry of inspiration / hoarding the best songs at this point.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 9, 2021 5:54:20 GMT -5
The last greatest was also their last while the band was still a band. Falling Down is amazing.
I don't know how this thread became a debate on I'm Outta Time but anyway I love the song too. All singles from DOYS were solid. Were the lyrics stupid? I don't think they were. And you can easily find some way more stupid lyrics in the Oasis catalogue ("she's got dirty dishes on the brain", "I got a piano, can't find the C")...
A great single does not equate popularity. If we're being honest, after Be Here Now, Oasis never had a single that was as popular as in the 90's. That doesn't mean what they did after wasn't as good. The music was different, the band was different, the times were different, the rules for being #1 were different, etc. Popularity never has and never will equate greatness.
Most Oasis singles were great. I don't understand the buzz with Songbird though. I get the feeling that if Noel didn't hype it up so much as being amazing it wouldn't be as appreciated. It's a catchy number sure. But great? I don't think it is. Same with Lyla.
So yeah to get back to the actual question, Falling Down.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 9, 2021 13:36:33 GMT -5
Falling Down is a great song and it's certainly in my top 50 favourite Oasis songs. If I had to do a top 10 of Oasis's last great singles it would certainly be in there somewhere.
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Post by beentherenow on Jun 9, 2021 13:46:04 GMT -5
I would actually say for the casual fan SCYHO would be in their top 5 most recognisable songs so it has to be that. TIOBI was a breath of fresh air back in the summer of 05 but it wouldn’t touch the 90’s stuff whereas aside from Wonderwall and DLBIA, SCYHO is probably right up there*
*id like to point out this is not my personal opinion on the song which I think is quite average by Oasis standards but it’s legacy in the wider music business
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Post by darmin on Jun 9, 2021 15:38:26 GMT -5
It’s definitely SCYHO. It’s a little bit cheesy but the original is so well done that they almost perfectly hid its cheesiness (if you compare it to to some covers).
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Post by Gas Panic on Jun 9, 2021 23:12:23 GMT -5
In terms of a full package it's Songbird for me. You get probably LGs best Oasis song, followed by the last brilliant Noel Oasis b-side in Heart Of A Star, and then a killer live version of Columbia closing it.
As much as I loved the DBTT singles at the time, from DBTT onwards every b-side was clearly a throwaway track. And then on DOYS we only got 1 real b-side across 3 singles!
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Post by Aman on Jun 10, 2021 5:00:35 GMT -5
In terms of answering the question of the thread, it's TIOBI. (I don't like it but most Oasis fans love it, think it's great and it was popular)
I love Falling Down and much prefer it to TIOBI but generally speaking it wasn't popular.
TIOBI was constantly on rotation on the music channels etc. Falling Down sort of came and went IIRC.
None of the DOYS singles were that in the public consciousness, TSOTL was for a bit but it soon tailed off.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 10, 2021 8:06:42 GMT -5
D’Yer Know What I Mean? was the last time the band had the zeitgeist truly behind them in my humble opinion.
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Post by Flashbax on Jun 10, 2021 8:46:34 GMT -5
I just don't get why Boy with the Blues and I Believe in All were only on the bonus disc of a vinyl boxset instead of at least b-sides to The Shock of the Lightning or I'm Outta Time
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 10, 2021 8:53:32 GMT -5
I just don't get why Boy with the Blues and I Believe in All were only on the bonus disc of a vinyl boxset instead of at least b-sides to The Shock of the Lightning or I'm Outta Time That never made sense to me either. Unless it was an attempt to shift more copies of the boxset?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 10, 2021 11:46:25 GMT -5
The Shock of the Lightning was their last great single to me. Great tune, top vocals and a drum solo. What else do you want?
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