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The Jam
May 26, 2021 22:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by drewsky34 on May 26, 2021 22:59:30 GMT -5
So Noel and Paul Weller were always friends and Noel always said the Jam were one of his favorite bands and biggest influences. I am in the US and it’s the only one of Noel’s favorite bands I have never got into. I know Carnation because of liams version and also That’s Entertainment. Curious what y’all think of them and if you like them what makes them so good? Noel usually has good taste.
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 27, 2021 1:42:56 GMT -5
So Noel and Paul Weller were always friends and Noel always said the Jam were one of his favorite bands and biggest influences. I am in the US and it’s the only one of Noel’s favorite bands I have never got into. I know Carnation because of liams version and also That’s Entertainment. Curious what y’all think of them and if you like them what makes them so good? Noel usually has good taste. Just watch the doc "About The Young Idea" for a quick and entertaining intro to The Jam. (You could say The Jam's songs helped define a certain period of time from the late 70s to the early 80s in Thatcher's Britain the same way Oasis did for a different time in the 90s -- they were gutsy, high-energy songs about the struggles of real people in the spirit of punk but with more of a melodic Beatles/Kinks and obviously Mod influence. Of course, it must be said that Paul Weller has spent most of his life NOT in The Jam, and has a whole other career you can also get into ... The Jam was one musical phase of many, which might be what Noel admires most.)
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Post by mimmihopps on May 27, 2021 2:18:13 GMT -5
The Jam were/are/will always be the band with the Union Jack on their back, pure Brits from head to toe. Unlike The Clash, they never reached the US and I can understand why. Many people might call them one of the punk bands from 70's United Kingdom, but they were not. Of course their debut album has more punky songs, but they never were a punk band.
The Jam were/are the sound of my youth and are/will always be one of my life time bands together with The Smiths and Oasis.
If you want to give them one more chance, listen to "Setting Sons", "Sound Affects" and "Live Jam".
Weller was one of the "angry young men" at that time who was one of the Allan Sillitoe's boys and he always will be.
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 27, 2021 2:47:20 GMT -5
Unlike The Clash, they never reached the US and I can understand why. Though The Jam never really “made it” in America, they did tour here (friend of mine partially lost his hearing at a Jam show) and Weller to this day has an extremely devoted following, not huge but loyal like crazy. Great atmosphere at his shows because we rarely get them. Back then, you had to work for it if you were American – as a kid, I found British music mags in the library (yep, the library) and ordered records from the UK (with my baby-sitting money) having never heard a note off them, then waited a month or sometimes more for them to arrive at the store. Such different times it almost sounds made up now.
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The Jam
May 27, 2021 3:26:27 GMT -5
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 27, 2021 3:26:27 GMT -5
The Jam are great. Find a best off or the essentials playlist on Apple Music or Spotify and get stuck in.
Town Called Malice, Going Underground, Eton Rifles, Down in a Tubestation. Some absolutely brilliant tunes!
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Post by AppleScruff on May 27, 2021 5:46:08 GMT -5
I’m a massive Weller fan now after being more casually aware of his work in my teens/20s.
The Jam were obviously great but as others point out, Weller has a huge catalogue and his sound has varied over 4/5 decades now. Something Noel aspires to but has only scratched the surface of.
Weller is also a big rip off merchant, which is maybe another reason him and Noel get along so well 🤣
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The Jam
May 27, 2021 12:50:55 GMT -5
Post by tiger40 on May 27, 2021 12:50:55 GMT -5
I've always liked The Jam and The Style Council come to that. Eaton Rifles is a great Jam tune and my favourite by them. I'm not sure how many Best Ofs they released but I own one of them.
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Post by mkoasis on May 29, 2021 13:33:56 GMT -5
The Jam were/are/will always be the band with the Union Jack on their back, pure Brits from head to toe. Unlike The Clash, they never reached the US and I can understand why. Many people might call them one of the punk bands from 70's United Kingdom, but they were not. Of course their debut album has more punky songs, but they never were a punk band. The Jam were/are the sound of my youth and are/will always be one of my life time bands together with The Smiths and Oasis. If you want to give them one more chance, listen to "Setting Sons", "Sound Affects" and "Live Jam". Weller was one of the "angry young men" at that time who was one of the Allan Sillitoe's boys and he always will be. I’ve always felt that with The Jam, they harnessed the anger and urgency of punk to make melodic music in the vein of The Kinks storytelling and songwriting. So I’d identify them, at least in the first couple years of their career, as a punk band. But I can see the other side as well. They are too hard to pin down with just one label. In that respect they are very much like the other most successful British punk bands, The Clash and Buzzcocks because they were able to go beyond limitations of style. I remember you saying that you got into The Jam very young. How did that happen for you?
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The Jam
May 29, 2021 15:03:53 GMT -5
Post by powerage09 on May 29, 2021 15:03:53 GMT -5
I've recently got into the Jam a lot more than before when I had a passing interest at best.
Also started checking out Weller solo as well.
Liam's vocal on Carnation is one of my favourite of his ever and I love Noel's cover of To Be Someone and The Butterfly Collector from the Royal Albert Hall.
I'm not sure why they are so good, they're certainly head and shoulders above the other British punk bands that preceded them (though the I do prefer the pistols).
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Post by mimmihopps on May 30, 2021 6:39:22 GMT -5
The Jam were/are/will always be the band with the Union Jack on their back, pure Brits from head to toe. Unlike The Clash, they never reached the US and I can understand why. Many people might call them one of the punk bands from 70's United Kingdom, but they were not. Of course their debut album has more punky songs, but they never were a punk band. The Jam were/are the sound of my youth and are/will always be one of my life time bands together with The Smiths and Oasis. If you want to give them one more chance, listen to "Setting Sons", "Sound Affects" and "Live Jam". Weller was one of the "angry young men" at that time who was one of the Allan Sillitoe's boys and he always will be. I’ve always felt that with The Jam, they harnessed the anger and urgency of punk to make melodic music in the vein of The Kinks storytelling and songwriting. So I’d identify them, at least in the first couple years of their career, as a punk band. But I can see the other side as well. They are too hard to pin down with just one label. In that respect they are very much like the other most successful British punk bands, The Clash and Buzzcocks because they were able to go beyond limitations of style. I remember you saying that you got into The Jam very young. How did that happen for you? My sister got into The Clash first. We were very close as sisters. Unfortunately not now anymore. My sister was a fan of Mick Jones and soon Joe Strummer became my hero (he still is). I think the first Clash record my sister got was Give 'em Enough Rope. We got into The Jam for one or another reason and the first Jam record I bought was Setting Sons. The Jam were bloody cool, always dressed well and they always had shinny shoes. Young Weller was sharp as a knife. The Clash and The Jam were the soundtrack of our youth and British music, culture and all that were everything for us. We immitated ourself to be a "Brit", drinking tea with milk, buying imported British music papers, having the posters of our favourite bands on the wall, reading Allan Sillitoe, playing records so loud that our parents had to step in to stop us often. Queuing all nights outside at front of the shop to get tickets for the gigs. Going to gigs, meeting bands and hanging around with friends who were in a band. All these made me what I am today as it had a big influence on me at that time. I can't imagine my life without music although I can't even play any instrumental. It's just music, but it does have power.
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The Jam
May 31, 2021 13:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by electricsunday on May 31, 2021 13:47:10 GMT -5
Weller is also a big rip off merchant, which is maybe another reason him and Noel get along so well 🤣 They're both really soaking their fans on their latest releases. I guess Weller's isn't that bad but it's hilarious that Noel wants $237 for a freaking greatest hits with a couple of new songs if you get the biggest bundle. I got into the Jam in the 90s through Compact SNAP! and I think that was all my record store had of them. I really liked that but then I ordered Stanley Road because Noel appeared on it and that got me obsessed with Weller's solo albums. It's still one of my all time favorite albums. Don't mean to overhype but I'm not on this planet anymore when I'm listening to it.
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Post by settingson on May 31, 2021 23:16:31 GMT -5
I'm old enough that the The Jam were my gateway drug into music. I found them in 1979. I was heavily into the Mod revival, 1960's music and ska / 2-tone. The Jam were a fantastic band on and off-stage. Was heartbroken when they split in 1982, but looking back, it was exactly the right time and I'm so pleased they have never re-formed.
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The Jam
Jun 1, 2021 12:43:09 GMT -5
Post by tiger40 on Jun 1, 2021 12:43:09 GMT -5
I seem to remember that the other two members of The Jam did reform but I don't know if they're still together or not though.
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