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Post by Thedaftstrangler on May 3, 2021 22:26:19 GMT -5
here are just some of the tracks released in the 2000's - Lord don’t slow me down
To be where theres life
Falling down
Im outta time
The shock of the lightning
The turning
Bag it up
Let there be love
Part of the queue
Guess god thinks I'm abel
The importance of being idle
Lyla
Turn up the sun
Born on a different cloud
Little by little
Songbird
Stop crying your heart out
The hindu times
Roll it over
Gas panic
Who feels love
Go let it out
Fuckin in the bushes
Full on
Lets all make believe
One way road
Just getting older
Idlers dream
Thank you for the good times
You’ve got the heart of a star
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Post by Jessica on May 3, 2021 22:58:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I know it doesn't compare to the 90's era, but they did very well in the 2000's, and the DBTT era, as much as it gets hated on, blended well with everything else in 2005/6.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on May 3, 2021 23:30:49 GMT -5
I prefer the 2000s band over the 1990s band. I think they just sounded better as a whole then the first iteration. Of course the downside is Liam's voice wasn't what it was in the 90s. But then again plenty of good moments with that raspy voice of the 2002 tour or some gigs from the DBTT tour.
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Post by tiger40 on May 4, 2021 13:06:22 GMT -5
Bag It Up
The Turning
Shock Of The Lightning
Falling Down
To Be Where There's Life (album version)
Soldier On
I Believe In All
Turn Up The Sun
Mucky Fingers
The Importance Of Being Idle
Guess God Thinks I'm Able
Part Of The Queue
Let There Be Love
The Hindu Times
Hung In A Bad Place
Stop Crying Your Heart Out
Songbird
Little By Little
Born On A Different Cloud
Go Let It Out
Gas Panic
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Roll It Over
Thankyou For The Good Times
Shout It Out Loud
Eyeball Tickler
Pass Me Down The Wine
Let's All Make Believe
(As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes In Hell
One Way Road
Carry Us All
Keep The Dream Alive
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Post by goletitout1986 on May 4, 2021 13:23:56 GMT -5
I only got into oasis in 2000 so those years will always be a soft spot for me.
I knew of MG at that time but then I heard GLIO for the first time and I thought 'Who the hell is this?!'. Great memories.
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 4, 2021 13:56:01 GMT -5
I can’t separate out any of it. It seems inevitable that the band (or more accurately the brothers because everyone else was exchanged) that made Definitely Maybe were never going to stay the same once they attained the very dream of escape that they sang about. Oasis became a beast and a brand, and they had to grow into that. To some degree it became about just sustaining the thing. They definitely made some good music, but they never made any albums as vital and powerful as their first two. Yet, I think from a human story point-of-view, the 2000s, all the way to the end, might be the most interesting, and least analyzed, part of the Oasis tale. It’s one thing to have a meteoric rise, but how do you keep from falling?
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Post by freddy838 on May 4, 2021 14:29:10 GMT -5
Yeah I reckon you could make a best of from the 00s that is as good as many of their contemporaries. Probably a bit more varied than a 90s best of too.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on May 4, 2021 15:59:56 GMT -5
Bag It Up The Turning Shock Of The Lightning Falling Down To Be Where There's Life (album version) Soldier On I Believe In All Turn Up The Sun Mucky Fingers The Importance Of Being Idle Guess God Thinks I'm Able Part Of The Queue Let There Be Love The Hindu Times Hung In A Bad Place Stop Crying Your Heart Out Songbird Little By Little Born On A Different Cloud Go Let It Out Gas Panic Where Did It All Go Wrong? Roll It Over Thankyou For The Good Times Shout It Out Loud Eyeball Tickler Pass Me Down The Wine Let's All Make Believe (As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes In Hell One Way Road Carry Us All Keep The Dream Alive I'm happy to see Cigarettes in Hell made the cut. |
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Post by jezza2 on May 4, 2021 16:18:30 GMT -5
Go Let It Out is easily in my top 6. Such a fun song to listen to.
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Post by morning_rain on May 5, 2021 3:33:19 GMT -5
I love 00's Oasis as much as I love 90's Oasis. They weren't as big, important or fresh but I got into them in 2004 so that era will always be special for me.
Gas Panic, Roll it over, Bag it up, TIOBI, The Turning, The Hindu Times, TSOTL... huge tunes.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 5, 2021 11:22:49 GMT -5
Oasis did not turn to shit in the 2000s, it was due to a band running it’s course of a 90s phenomenon with poor quality control thereafter. Beady’s Here Now approves of the original post. |
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Post by tiger40 on May 5, 2021 12:50:59 GMT -5
Bag It Up The Turning Shock Of The Lightning Falling Down To Be Where There's Life (album version) Soldier On I Believe In All Turn Up The Sun Mucky Fingers The Importance Of Being Idle Guess God Thinks I'm Able Part Of The Queue Let There Be Love The Hindu Times Hung In A Bad Place Stop Crying Your Heart Out Songbird Little By Little Born On A Different Cloud Go Let It Out Gas Panic Where Did It All Go Wrong? Roll It Over Thankyou For The Good Times Shout It Out Loud Eyeball Tickler Pass Me Down The Wine Let's All Make Believe (As Long As They've Got) Cigarettes In Hell One Way Road Carry Us All Keep The Dream Alive I'm happy to see Cigarettes in Hell made the cut. Yeah, I've always liked that song and I think that it gets over looked a lot or disliked too much. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 5, 2021 18:23:37 GMT -5
I’m not quite sure how Liam weaseled a song of his onto SOTSOG, especially Little James as the chosen one.
Oasis’ rockiest (not in the musical sense...) period was literally around the year 2000, so it’s even more perplexing that Noel broke with the pattern, letting Liam convince him. Sadly, this planted the bad idea into Noel’s otherwise most brilliant mind.
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Noel’s typical over-confidence was shot post-SOTSOG that it actually did make sense to have songwriting democracy on Heathen Chemistry. Although Noel probably used the band members as a crux at the same time.
Carrying this through to DBTT, and especially DOYS I’d perhaps Noel’s biggest mistake in his musical career.... that songwriting democracy really devalued latter Oasis albums. DOYS deserved so much better.
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Noel found his form from DBTT onwards... a purple patch of 16 years, and counting. 10 consecutive number one albums.
Again, both Oasis and Noel never to shit post-1990s. This is an opinion I will forever defend.
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Post by megyesitomate on May 5, 2021 18:38:04 GMT -5
One of the most important factors for me is that they sounded infinitely better in the 2000s as a live band. Yes, Liam's voice wasn't at its best but contrary to popular belief, I think most of the time it was actually pretty good. 2000-2001-2002 and even 2003 were 80% fine, and in my book, 2004 Glastonbury sounds pretty good too. 2005 was very mixed and 2006 was definitely the lowest point but he recovered very well for 2008 and most of 2009 wasn't half bad either - yes, his voice often sounded really tired when they had to do back-to-back gigs but the iTunes Festival gig, for example, is a really good effort.
One negative thing that comes to mind instantly is the lack of good (or just non-remix) b-sides for the last two albums and ridicilous tracklisting choices.
But DOYS especially will always have a special place in my heart - best artwork, best album production, and a great tour with their best drummer. What's not to love!!
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Post by Aman on May 6, 2021 12:51:41 GMT -5
As a Best Of the 2000s stuff doesn't look too bad however let's just say if Oasis' back catalogue was just from SOTSOG to DOYS, I wouldn't be a massive fan of the band.
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Post by The Escapist on May 8, 2021 17:00:53 GMT -5
The issue isn't that there aren't good tracks, but that there are so many mediocre/poor ones. For every song on that list, you could put forward an Ain't Got Nothin, I Can See a Liar, Better Man, A Bell Will Ring... Compare that to the 90's where you have to sift deep into the most obscure b-sides to find a song that doesn't have at least something brilliant about it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 8, 2021 18:09:37 GMT -5
An era of good songs but so so albums.
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Post by The Escapist on May 8, 2021 18:13:12 GMT -5
An era of good songs but so so albums. This, too. For all the good tunes scattered across 2000-2008, they never managed to form into one properly good album. Best you can really do is SOTSOG, and that tracklist has more than one glaring hole in it. |
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Post by Aman on May 9, 2021 4:01:33 GMT -5
Yeah exactly. You've got two pretty shit albums in there (HC and DBTT) and two good-ish but flawed albums (SOTSOG and DOYS).
Oasis were rightfully slagged off in the 2000s.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 9, 2021 4:07:02 GMT -5
The issue isn't that there aren't good tracks, but that there are so many mediocre/poor ones. For every song on that list, you could put forward an Ain't Got Nothin, I Can See a Liar, Better Man, A Bell Will Ring... Compare that to the 90's where you have to sift deep into the most obscure b-sides to find a song that doesn't have at least something brilliant about it. Magic Pie might be the worst thing Noel ever wrote and you don’t have to go very far into the depths to find that one. |
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Post by bt95 on May 9, 2021 4:42:56 GMT -5
They looked cooler, were funnier, and had some great songs.
They went through a downturn in popularity like any band of that size through really no fault of their own - victims of their own success in a way.
2005/06 was massive for them, but by 2008 they probably verged on being a bit of a parody of themselves at times and then obviously it all came tumbling down. But, some shaky moments from Liam's voice aside, they seemed in brilliant knick on that last tour.
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Post by bt95 on May 9, 2021 4:49:21 GMT -5
Yeah exactly. You've got two pretty shit albums in there (HC and DBTT) and two good-ish but flawed albums (SOTSOG and DOYS). Oasis were rightfully slagged off in the 2000s. They became uncool though, that's all it is. Plus, DBTT is a brilliant album imo. Easily Oasis' best of that era in my mind and probably better than Be Here Now if you let go of all the context surrounding BHN. In my mind, any of those four albums crap all over anything Liam has done solo and probably a fair bit of Noel's solo catalouge, for example, but Liam - and to a lesser extent Noel - and Oasis in general are bigger now, or over the last 4-5 years, than they have been since their 90s pomp. My point being, had Oasis released DBTT in 2017 I think it would have received even more love. There's definitely some poor choices of songs going on the albums, laziness, whatever it was - like the back half of DOYS. But they weren't bad by any means. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 9, 2021 4:54:46 GMT -5
The issue isn't that there aren't good tracks, but that there are so many mediocre/poor ones. For every song on that list, you could put forward an Ain't Got Nothin, I Can See a Liar, Better Man, A Bell Will Ring... Compare that to the 90's where you have to sift deep into the most obscure b-sides to find a song that doesn't have at least something brilliant about it. Magic Pie might be the worst thing Noel ever wrote and you don’t have to go very far into the depths to find that one. Nowhere near the worst thing he's wrote. Said it before, the verses of Magic Pie alone put it ahead of dozens of 00's tunes - give it Liam vocals, change the title line, and produce it properly, and there's a big tune in there somewhere. Can't say that for Mucky Fingers. Can't say that for I Can See a Liar. |
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Post by tiger40 on May 9, 2021 12:53:03 GMT -5
Magic Pie is certainly one of the worst songs which Noel has ever written but Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is and I Can See A Liar are far worse.
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Post by freddy838 on May 11, 2021 17:47:11 GMT -5
The issue isn't that there aren't good tracks, but that there are so many mediocre/poor ones. For every song on that list, you could put forward an Ain't Got Nothin, I Can See a Liar, Better Man, A Bell Will Ring... Compare that to the 90's where you have to sift deep into the most obscure b-sides to find a song that doesn't have at least something brilliant about it. That's very true, I guess you could say 00s Oasis just reverted to the mean. Do you then compare Oasis from the 00s to Oasis of the 90s, or other bands from the 00s. I think Noel has made that point a few times, Oasis didn't keep up that standard, but then who else did? |
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